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[Chernaya]

I honestly don't think DA2's engine was capable (or they just didn't have the time) to make many unique facial structures for the game. So yes, Cassandra's jaw was altered, and I like it. I'm glad they took this chance to better distinguish characters from each-other. 

[Joseph Warrick]

I think the Iron Bull sort of looks like Frank Vincent.

[ClassicBox]

I think that a lot of them are attractive. : ) However, there is nothing wrong with finding them unattractive. People have different tastes and it is perfectly okay for you to not find them pretty/handsome. I see a lot of people arguing they are indeed pretty and that you are wrong and vice verse but it is all subjective. No need to start insulting one another. As long as you understand that characters don't exist only to be pretty, then everything is all good! And as long as derogatory names/Unrespectful words are not being used I don't see the problem with having a different opinion.

I am not sure why there is a thread dedicated solely to one's personal taste,..but whatever floats your boat! Lol

[aTigerslunch]

This is their words for them....

 

 

"There aint nobody like me, Except me."

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

I wouldn't be so quick to praise the Mass Effect series on its consistent character design. Liara's metamorphosis between the vanilla ME2 game and Lair of the Shadow Broker to ME3 was far more drastic than Cassandra's appearance. I think ME3's version is the superior one, but the only thing ME3 and ME1/2's Liara have in common are the eyebrows.

 

Yeahhhh let's talk about Ashley Williams. 

Those are nowhere close to Dragon Age. They both still looked like the same person and their real life model with a makeover and different makeup. The difference in characters for dragon age games can hardly be achieved with plastic surgery.

[ReveurIngenu]

I think it's a sign when so many people are coming here complaining about the lack of attractiveness of the LIs or characters in general.  While beauty is subjective, never has there been so much complaining about the unattractiveness of the companions of any past Bioware game.  I should think that Bioware would be worried that so many think this, as the romance aspect is one of the biggest appeals of their games and with so many people thinking this, it can only be bad business for Bioware.  Bioware games have not exactly been known for their gameplay but for their characters and storytelling.  Ugly characters don't make you want to invest or get to know them.

 

I'm thinking pre-order numbers not being as good as EA would have wanted prompted the 2 month delay, EA thinking it would give the game a boost.  However, we've seen that even after Gamescom, pre-order for DAI has not increased as much as for other games (there's a topic in the Scuttlebutt forum about this).  I have a feeling many people are just not that interested because DAI's biggest selling point- it's characters- doesn't attract people.  Even returning characters like Morrigan, Leliana, and Cullen have been described as having gotten ugly.

 

I have to admit that I too have seen my interest wane in this game.  I had intended to go all out for this game, Inquisitor's Edition and guide.  Yet now, I'll just get a standard edition of this game a few months after release when prices go down and I'll forego the guide.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.  It's not only a result of unattractive companions, but long delays, generic main character models, average looking graphics for a next gen game compared to next-gen only games like the Witcher.

 

Had this game come out last year, many of these points would have not mattered.  Yet a year later, DAI looks like the poor man's next-gen game as it contends with stunning and beautiful next-gen only games like Assassin's Creed Unity, The Witcher, etc.  The more you delay a game, the more you have to step up.  DAI hasn't exactly been doing that.

[Icefalcon]

The complaints about these characters are positively polite compared to all the hate on big chin manjaw Isabela, derpface Carver and jailbait Merrill... so no.
 

Not really...

 

I didn't see any of those but my issues with the LI's in DA2 goes a bit deeper that they fact I found them unattractive (which is also largely true). For one thing there is a cut scene where Isabela goes to Anders for a cure for something she's picked up. Not a winter cold I'm guessing. And knowing that you're still supposed to want to romance her? I don't think so.

Merrill on the other hand always struck me as the sort of NPC you should be be able to run through screaming BLOOD MAGE at the top of your voice  like every other blood mage in the game not someone you would associate with for nine years!

At least in DAI we can apparently part company with the companions we don't condone or who don't condone us

[Nefla]

What I meant was that the characters still had the same general features and weren't too vastly different from their older selves. Cassandra isn't and definitely had the biggest change out of the majority of returning characters. And I don't know why you keep saying the whole "doll" thing. Like I said, this is a new graphics engine and making the characters more realistic by adding features like pores and scars are fine. What I don't like is how she had a rather oval facial structure and suddenly got wide jaws just because it fit her personality more. And why do you keep saying that oval faces are generic? You do know that there are real life people with facial structures like that, right? And that people with oval faces can have a variety of other traits that distinguish them from each other?

Generic as in every face in DA2 was like that and that it's the go-to facial structure for female characters in video games, cartoons, comic books, and anything that doesn't require a real actor's face. I never said the oval shape alone was what made the DA2 faces generic. It's the face shape, the eye size and shape, the nose size and shape, the mouth size and shape, and the placement of all those features, all the same on the DA2 human women. None of them HAVE a variety of other traits to distinguish them from each other. Take away their hair, eyebrows, and makeup and you would not be able to tell them apart. That is the epitome of generic. Just different decoration on the same face.

 

Examples of what I mean:

Spoiler

 

 

Some of them have their head at a slightly different angle (Isabella and Leandra) or are making a facial expression but you can tell their facial proportions are nearly identical. THIS is what I mean by generic. They took her from cookie cutter to a more realistic look all her own.

[Ravensword]

What I'm really interested in is what are Merrill and Isabela gonna look like in DA:I.

[Chernaya]

I've seen devs stating that the pre-orders are looking healthy, so I don't think people aren't pre-ordering because Sera or Cass or whoever isn't pretty enough... and if that was the case, that would be... kinda weird, honestly. I'm one of the people who actually loves the romance aspect of these games and builds characters around it even, but to go so far as to not pre-order a game because of how attractive the characters are all for the optional romance content is kind of absurd. 

 

It may seem like a lot of people are complaining, but to be honest it's still a very small minority of people. I've seen just as many complain about DA2 characters. 

[JeffZero]

I've seen devs stating that the pre-orders are looking healthy

 

The only time that's happened that I'm aware of was when Barrett Rodych very nicely replied to my inquiry about that after one of the developers posted a call-out to raise awareness of the game on twitter that had some folks, including ElitePinecone, concerned. Barrett said that he doesn't know much, but last he heard they were healthy and strong. It's good news, but it's worth noting that he really doesn't know specifics, or up-to-date scenarios. He's working on the next Mass Effect, I believe.

[Uccio]

I don´t like the way female romance options look. That is not, however, a request for barbie option. I just don´t like their look. I would prefer something different. I generally don´t like short or buzz cut hair on women. Also, Cassandra looks like she just shaved her chin in the morning.

[BabyFratelli]

I don´t like the way female romance options look. That is not, however, a request for barbie option. I just don´t like their look. I would prefer something different. I generally don´t like short or buzz cut hair on women. Also, Cassandra looks like she just shaved her chin in the morning.

 

Yeah, absolutely, I can't stand looking at people who have to shave in the mornings either. 

 

this is sarcasm.

[aTigerslunch]

Yeah       But granted, some women do shave, not 5 oclock shadow type deals. Cass doesn't look like she shaved or needs to.

[Icefalcon]

What I'm really interested in is what are Merrill and Isabela gonna look like in DA:I.

 Mouldy Bones and Qunari fodder in mine  

[Deflagratio]

Personally I think it's kind of a result of the "Anime" effect. As 3D art introduces more complex modeling and lighting, that endearing, almost flat looking character art reminiscent of 2D animation disappears, and is replaced by something a little closer to the uncanny valley. I think among contemporary 3D games, Dragon Age: Inquisition's characters look B+ to A-.

 

In simpler words, I think the characters of DA:I look much more realistic, and that's probably why some people find them less attractive.

[leadintea]

Generic as in every face in DA2 was like that and that it's the go-to facial structure for female characters in video games, cartoons, comic books, and anything that doesn't require a real actor's face. I never said the oval shape alone was what made the DA2 faces generic. It's the face shape, the eye size and shape, the nose size and shape, the mouth size and shape, and the placement of all those features, all the same on the DA2 human women. None of them HAVE a variety of other traits to distinguish them from each other. Take away their hair, eyebrows, and makeup and you would not be able to tell them apart. That is the epitome of generic. Just different decoration on the same face.

 

Examples of what I mean:

Spoiler

 

 

Some of them have their head at a slightly different angle (Isabella and Leandra) or are making a facial expression but you can tell their facial proportions are nearly identical. THIS is what I mean by generic. They took her from cookie cutter to a more realistic look all her own.

 

Regardless, you are still able to tell one character from the next because they have differing features and those faces, at least the shape, are still very realistic They should've stuck to her old face structure and just made it more realistic and added scars, wrinkles, etc, because it's very jarring for her to look a certain way in 2 previous media and then change her so much in the next, especially since, like I keep saying, they changed her just because they felt her new features fit better with her angry personality. In fact, I find it more insulting than just keeping her old facial structure, because the designers are basically saying that only females with strong jaws and angular features (like Aveline) are the only ones able to be in a position of authority and have a commanding presence; saying that they have to have typical "masculine" features to be able to be a hard ass and that they can't be one with typical "feminine" features is incredibly offensive.

 

But in the end, it doesn't really matter. What's done is done and no amount of complaining or grousing is gonna change that. I just hope that they'll stick to the character designs in subsequent DA games, because it's very jarring to always have the characters change, especially for stereotypical reasons.

[TurretSyndrome]

I think Cassandra, Solas, Sera are pretty sub par as far as companions go. Cassandra especially has become this muscle-headed she-man compared to her DA 2 self(which actually still preserved her womanly features). DA:I definitely places at the top for having some of the most unattractive or unappealing companions in the franchise. At least, Leliana and Morrigan were spared from the slaughter.

[naddaya]

I didn't see any of those but my issues with the LI's in DA2 goes a bit deeper that they fact I found them unattractive (which is also largely true). For one thing there is a cut scene where Isabela goes to Anders for a cure for something she's picked up. Not a winter cold I'm guessing. And knowing that you're still supposed to want to romance her? I don't think so.

Merrill on the other hand always struck me as the sort of NPC you should be be able to run through screaming BLOOD MAGE at the top of your voice  like every other blood mage in the game not someone you would associate with for nine years!

At least in DAI we can apparently part company with the companions we don't condone or who don't condone us

 

You didn't like them. Other people did. That's the point. Isabela is conventionally good looking, you were put off by her STDs. I wasn't. My Hawke romanced her and didn't give a **** ("That's what magic is for!").

[MattH]

I think they look amazing, wonderful designs. I love how they aren't generic faces and have some personality.

[Ispan]

I think Cassandra, Solas, Sera are pretty sub par as far as companions go. Cassandra especially has become this muscle-headed she-man compared to her DA 2 self(which actually still preserved her womanly features). DA:I definitely places at the top for having some of the most unattractive or unappealing companions in the franchise. At least, Leliana and Morrigan were spared from the slaughter.

 

Haha, those are the two companions I'm most interested in romantically and I think they are hot, hot, hot.  Oh well, different tastes

 

Morrigan in the latest trailer is beautiful, yes, but she looked so smooth and flawless in her few seconds on screen that she feels a bit fake and out of place amongst our gorgeously flawed and realistic setting/companions/advisors.  I'm hoping it's just the angles/lighting/video capture that softened her features >.<