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[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I love it when people cite ancient monuments as proof of alien species. The fact is humans are a clever race, we can find ways to do things that may not make sense to one group but makes perfect sense to the others. The ancient alien theorists basically write off human creativity and ingenuity to support their claims that there has to be some higher power to have  shown us how to make these monuments.

 

For once how about give credit where credit is due, people made the pyramids, people made the temples in Asia and South America. People made the lines that depict symbols in the middle of the desert. People who for whatever reason had to come up with a unique and interesting way to make these great places. Don't simply write it off.

 

25 facts about the Great Pyramid of Giza

The Great Pyramid a true masterpiece and has rightly earned the title of a “Wonder”. It was built with such precision that our current technology cannot replicate it. There are so many interesting facts about this Pyramid that it baffles archaeologists, scientists, astronomers and tourists. Here are the facts:

1. The pyramid is estimated to have around 2,300,000 stone blocks that weigh from 2 to 30 tons each and there are even some blocks that weigh over 50 tons.
2. The Pyramid of Menkaure, the Pyramid of Khafre and the Great Pyramid of Khufu are precisely aligned with the Constellation of Orion.
3. The base of the pyramid covers 55,000 m2 (592,000 ft 2) with each side greater than 20,000 m2 (218,000 ft2) in area.
4. The interior temperature is constant and equals the average temperature of the earth, 20 Degrees Celsius (68 Degrees Fahrenheit).
5. The outer mantle was composed of 144,000 casing stones, all of them highly polished and flat to an accuracy of 1/100th of an inch, about 100 inches thick and weighing approx. 15 tons each.
6. The cornerstone foundations of the pyramid have ball and socket construction capable of dealing with heat expansion and earthquakes.
7. The mortar used is of an unknown origin (Yes, no explanation given). It has been analyzed and its chemical composition is known but it can’t be reproduced. It is stronger than the stone and still holding up today.
8. It was originally covered with casing stones (made of highly polished limestone). These casing stones reflected the sun’s light and made the pyramid shine like a jewel. They are no longer present being used by Arabs to build mosques after an earthquake in the 14th century loosened many of them. It has been calculated that the original pyramid with its casing stones would act like gigantic mirrors and reflect light so powerful that it would be visible from the moon as a shining star on earth. Appropriately, the ancient Egyptians called the Great Pyramid “Ikhet”, meaning the “Glorious Light”.  How these blocks were transported and assembled into the pyramid is still a mystery. - http://www.gizapyramid.com/general.htm
9. Aligned True North: The Great Pyramid is the most accurately aligned structure in existence and faces true north with only 3/60th of a degree of error. The position of the North Pole moves over time and the pyramid was exactly aligned at one time.
10. Center of Land Mass: The Great Pyramid is located at the center of the land mass of the earth. The east/west parallel that crosses the most land and the north/south meridian that crosses the most land intersect in two places on the earth, one in the ocean and the other at the Great Pyramid.
11. The four faces of the pyramid are slightly concave, the only pyramid to have been built this way.
12. The centers of the four sides are indented with an extraordinary degree of precision forming the only 8 sided pyramid, this effect is not visible from the ground or from a distance but only from the air, and then only under the proper lighting conditions. This phenomenon is only detectable from the air at dawn and sunset on the spring and autumn equinoxes, when the sun casts shadows on the pyramid.
13. The granite coffer in the “King’s Chamber” is too big to fit through the passages and so it must have been put in place during construction.
14. The coffer was made out of a block of solid granite. This would have required bronze saws 8-9 ft. long set with teeth of sapphires. Hollowing out of the interior would require tubular drills of the same material applied with a tremendous vertical force.
15. Microscopic analysis of the coffer reveals that it was made with a fixed point drill that used hard jewel bits and a drilling force of 2 tons.
16. The Great Pyramid had a swivel door entrance at one time. Swivel doors were found in only two other pyramids: Khufu’s father and grandfather, Sneferu and Huni, respectively.
17. It is reported that when the pyramid was first broken into that the swivel door, weighing some 20 tons, was so well balanced that it could be opened by pushing out from the inside with only minimal force, but when closed, was so perfect a fit that it could scarcely be detected and there was not enough crack or crevice around the edges to gain a grasp from the outside.
18. With the mantle in place, the Great Pyramid could be seen from the mountains in Israel and probably the moon as well.
19. The weight of the pyramid is estimated at 5,955,000 tons. Multiplied by 10^8 gives a reasonable estimate of the earth’s mass.
20. The Descending Passage pointed to the pole star Alpha Draconis, circa 2170-2144 BCE. This was the North Star at that point in time. No other star has aligned with the passage since then.
21. The southern shaft in the King’s Chamber pointed to the star Al Nitak (Zeta Orionis) in the constellation Orion, circa 2450 BCE The Orion constellation was associated with the Egyptian god Osiris. No other star aligned with this shaft during that time in history.
22. Sun’s Radius: Twice the perimeter of the bottom of the granite coffer times 10^8 is the sun’s mean radius. [270.45378502 Pyramid Inches* 10^8 = 427,316 miles]
23. The curvature designed into the faces of the pyramid exactly matches the radius of the earth.
24. Khufu’s pyramid, known as the great pyramid of Giza, is the oldest and largest, rising at 481 feet (146 meters). Archaeologists say it was the tallest structure in the world for about 3, 800 years.
25. The relationship between Pi (p) and Phi (F) is expressed in the fundamental proportions of the Great Pyramid.

[Tarek]

wouldn't it be funny as Heck if humans turned out to be some failed attempt to make genetically engineered soldiers that was scrubbed by some vast intergalactic empire

 

haha oh I would lol for days

[Dermain]

For those that think Civilization began only 3000-4000 years ago, think again. They are finding sunken cities from during the ice age which date back 12,000 years go. Also look up Gobekli Tepe it dates back about 9000-10000 years. Civilizations aren't anything new to humans we have been building them far longer than anyone had previously thought... oh and no mention of alien involvement.

 

The only group I know that would claim that civilization only began 4000 years ago wouldn't believe anything you say regardless of how true it is.

 

It's quite sad really...

wouldn't it be funny as Heck if humans turned out to be some failed attempt to make genetically engineered soldiers that was scrubbed by some vast intergalactic empire

 

haha oh I would lol for days

 

Really? They would design humans to be soldiers? 

 

This intergalactic empire apparently isn't very smart. The thing humans are good at is adapting, but other than that we're quite squishy.

 

There's so much potential for other designs for a solider than the human race.

[Tarek]

no think about it

 

u make a species that is short lived, smart but not uber smart, make them believe in heavenly creatures (the makers) make them breed like crazy, adapt to different situations, make them aggressive, paranoid, greedy, self centered....

 

but like I said we failed so they probably just scrubbed the whole thing

[Dermain]

no think about it

 

u make a species that is short lived, smart but not uber smart, make them believe in heavenly creatures (the makers) make them breed like crazy, adapt to different situations, make them aggressive, paranoid, greedy, self centered....

 

but like I said we failed so they probably just scrubbed the whole thing

 

The aggressive part I can see, not so much the rest.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

We aren't missing anything. First contact has been made. Contact was made long ago, in Ancient times.

 

We see evidence of this everywhere, in recorded histories and in the modern day. I am convinced that some koind of extra terrestrial beings descended from the skoy, many years ago. There are varying theories about what happened then, but what is clear is that these extra terrestrials made some koind of impact to... ancienthumansocieties.

 

There is just too much incontrovertible evidence to say otherwise. These ancient human cultures, they made be long dead, and I mean like bodies everywhere. They have these stories about of gods coming down, from the skoy, with incredible powers and it just strikes me as odd that nobody connects these "gods" with potential... extraterrestrialbeings.

[Johnnie Walker]

We aren't missing anything. First contact has been made. Contact was made long ago, in Ancient times.

 

We see evidence of this everywhere, in recorded histories and in the modern day. I am convinced that some koind of extra terrestrial beings descended from the skoy, many years ago. There are varying theories about what happened then, but what is clear is that these extra terrestrials made some koind of impact to... ancienthumansocieties.

 

There is just too much incontrovertible evidence to say otherwise. These ancient human cultures, they made be long dead, and I mean like bodies everywhere. They have these stories about of gods coming down, from the skoy, with incredible powers and it just strikes me as odd that nobody connects these "gods" with potential... extraterrestrialbeings.

[Dermain]

We aren't missing anything. First contact has been made. Contact was made long ago, in Ancient times.

 

We see evidence of this everywhere, in recorded histories and in the modern day. I am convinced that some koind of extra terrestrial beings descended from the skoy, many years ago. There are varying theories about what happened then, but what is clear is that these extra terrestrials made some koind of impact to... ancienthumansocieties.

 

There is just too much incontrovertible evidence to say otherwise. These ancient human cultures, they made be long dead, and I mean like bodies everywhere. They have these stories about of gods coming down, from the skoy, with incredible powers and it just strikes me as odd that nobody connects these "gods" with potential... extraterrestrialbeings.

 

I have discovered your secret identity!

 

You are!

 

This guy!

 

[Aurawolf]

Sorry, there is zero proof aliens have ever visited this world. There are vague references in history that can be interpreted as a whole host of things including eating tainted bread but there is zero evidence of anything.

 

Personally it would be very saddening if alien life visited us so long ago just to screw with us. How insane would the aliens have to be or bored and why not just land and say, yeah we're here get over it already. In fact it would be great if aliens did visit we would have something new to be angry at.

 

I do believe there is alien life out there somewhere but given interstellar distances I don't think they have found us yet and I doubt they will be able to reach us anytime soon.

[Tyrchon74]

We aren't missing anything. First contact has been made. Contact was made long ago, in Ancient times.

 

We see evidence of this everywhere, in recorded histories and in the modern day. I am convinced that some koind of extra terrestrial beings descended from the skoy, many years ago. There are varying theories about what happened then, but what is clear is that these extra terrestrials made some koind of impact to... ancienthumansocieties.

 

There is just too much incontrovertible evidence to say otherwise. These ancient human cultures, they made be long dead, and I mean like bodies everywhere. They have these stories about of gods coming down, from the skoy, with incredible powers and it just strikes me as odd that nobody connects these "gods" with potential... extraterrestrialbeings.

 

I'm sorry, it's obvious that you want this to be true, but it just isn't.  People throw around the word "evidence" far too easily.  There is absolutely no evidence of extraterrestrial involvement on Earth, yet.  Now, I'm not saying they were never here, because there's no way to prove they weren't.  But the things people cite as "proof" is all explained when research is done.  For example, all of the things listed above that made the Great Pyramids so wonderful and, supposedly, unable to be made by man, were marvels of engineering.  But, they were also explained when archaeologists and researchers finally found enough writings from the builders to discover that they actually wrote down how they did it!  That was also how they found out that the Pyramids were built closer to 15,000 years ago than the 5,000 they originally believed.

 

An example is that they moved these massively heavy stones by having a couple of hundred slaves push & pull while they poured water on the sand in front of it, carefully, so as to create a layer of mud that would move with the block and slide along the dryer sand beneath it.

 

Also, where that post said that it was so precise that we couldn't duplicate it today, that it misleading.  The full fact is that it was so precise that researches couldn't duplicate it today using the same techniques they believed the builders had knowledge of back then.  We could easily build it today, if the stone was available and the salt/oxygen content in the mortar was still at those levels.  It's not, but we could certainly duplicate it with other materials, again, easily.

 

Last thing I'll mention is the fallacy that it would shine brightly enough to be seen from the moon.  That is a poetic exaggeration, not fact.  It did shine brightly, and could be seen for miles around, and certainly would be seen from high up in the atmosphere.  It's possible that it could be seen from orbit, even, if the observer had a looking glass.  The size of the reflective surface doesn't have enough surface space to reflect the amount of photons required to create the beam of light necessary to travel as far as the moon.  The physics just don't work for that, as pretty as it sounds.

 

Again, I'm sorry, and I'm sure you would rather just ignore the facts here and in the places I found them by actually researching facts rather than entertainment sources.  You certainly have that freedom.  But, please, don't tell everyone else that what you find is "evidence" or "proof" or "fact".  It's just not fair to the poor uneducated folks who would rather learn from you that do their own research.

[Johnnie Walker]

I'm sorry, it's obvious that you want this to be true, but it just isn't.  People throw around the word "evidence" far too easily.  There is absolutely no evidence of extraterrestrial involvement on Earth, yet.  Now, I'm not saying they were never here, because there's no way to prove they weren't.  But the things people cite as "proof" is all explained when research is done.  For example, all of the things listed above that made the Great Pyramids so wonderful and, supposedly, unable to be made by man, were marvels of engineering.  But, they were also explained when archaeologists and researchers finally found enough writings from the builders to discover that they actually wrote down how they did it!  That was also how they found out that the Pyramids were built closer to 15,000 years ago than the 5,000 they originally believed.

 

An example is that they moved these massively heavy stones by having a couple of hundred slaves push & pull while they poured water on the sand in front of it, carefully, so as to create a layer of mud that would move with the block and slide along the dryer sand beneath it.

 

Also, where that post said that it was so precise that we couldn't duplicate it today, that it misleading.  The full fact is that it was so precise that researches couldn't duplicate it today using the same techniques they believed the builders had knowledge of back then.  We could easily build it today, if the stone was available and the salt/oxygen content in the mortar was still at those levels.  It's not, but we could certainly duplicate it with other materials, again, easily.

 

Last thing I'll mention is the fallacy that it would shine brightly enough to be seen from the moon.  That is a poetic exaggeration, not fact.  It did shine brightly, and could be seen for miles around, and certainly would be seen from high up in the atmosphere.  It's possible that it could be seen from orbit, even, if the observer had a looking glass.  The size of the reflective surface doesn't have enough surface space to reflect the amount of photons required to create the beam of light necessary to travel as far as the moon.  The physics just don't work for that, as pretty as it sounds.

 

Again, I'm sorry, and I'm sure you would rather just ignore the facts here and in the places I found them by actually researching facts rather than entertainment sources.  You certainly have that freedom.  But, please, don't tell everyone else that what you find is "evidence" or "proof" or "fact".  It's just not fair to the poor uneducated folks who would rather learn from you that do their own research.

 

Check your humor privilege!

 

And obvious alt is obvious.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I'm sorry, it's obvious that you want this to be true, but it just isn't.  People throw around the word "evidence" far too easily.  There is absolutely no evidence of extraterrestrial involvement on Earth, yet.  Now, I'm not saying they were never here, because there's no way to prove they weren't.  But the things people cite as "proof" is all explained when research is done.  For example, all of the things listed above that made the Great Pyramids so wonderful and, supposedly, unable to be made by man, were marvels of engineering.  But, they were also explained when archaeologists and researchers finally found enough writings from the builders to discover that they actually wrote down how they did it!  That was also how they found out that the Pyramids were built closer to 15,000 years ago than the 5,000 they originally believed.

 

An example is that they moved these massively heavy stones by having a couple of hundred slaves push & pull while they poured water on the sand in front of it, carefully, so as to create a layer of mud that would move with the block and slide along the dryer sand beneath it.

 

Also, where that post said that it was so precise that we couldn't duplicate it today, that it misleading.  The full fact is that it was so precise that researches couldn't duplicate it today using the same techniques they believed the builders had knowledge of back then.  We could easily build it today, if the stone was available and the salt/oxygen content in the mortar was still at those levels.  It's not, but we could certainly duplicate it with other materials, again, easily.

 

Last thing I'll mention is the fallacy that it would shine brightly enough to be seen from the moon.  That is a poetic exaggeration, not fact.  It did shine brightly, and could be seen for miles around, and certainly would be seen from high up in the atmosphere.  It's possible that it could be seen from orbit, even, if the observer had a looking glass.  The size of the reflective surface doesn't have enough surface space to reflect the amount of photons required to create the beam of light necessary to travel as far as the moon.  The physics just don't work for that, as pretty as it sounds.

 

Again, I'm sorry, and I'm sure you would rather just ignore the facts here and in the places I found them by actually researching facts rather than entertainment sources.  You certainly have that freedom.  But, please, don't tell everyone else that what you find is "evidence" or "proof" or "fact".  It's just not fair to the poor uneducated folks who would rather learn from you that do their own research.

 

'k.

[Tyrchon74]

Check your humor privilege!

 

And obvious alt is obvious.

 

 

Wow.  I disagree with you and actually do the research you're too lazy to bother with, so I must be "alt", huh?  I'm surrounded by arrogant, oblivious, morons.  Sad state of current society.

[Tyrchon74]

Actually, I apologize.  I should stay out of this, I just realized that this entire thread is satire.  My deepest apologies.

 

I'll bow out and leave you to your humor.

[Johnnie Walker]

:|

[Tarek]

also nice facts about the pyramids

 

for all we know all those weird half man half beast creatures and mythical beings were alines but the ancients thought they were gods and demons 

[Han Shot First]

Our galaxy alone may have as many as 40 billion Earth-sized planets orbiting in the habitable zones of sun-like or red dwarf stars. And our galaxy is just one of between as many 100 and 200 billion galaxies. I think it is very unlikely that Earth is the only planet in the universe where the conditions were just right for life to develop. Far more likely is that life is common in the cosmos and we aren't special at all. We may even find life on other worlds in our own solar system, though it wouldn't be sapient.

 

That being said I also don't believe that Earth is being visited by UFOs. Reports of UFO sightings are far more common among the general population than people who actually know what they are looking at in the sky...i.e. astronomers and astrophysicists. 

 

If other sapient species exist in the universe, the incredible vastness of space may be an insurmountable barrier. Faster than light travel and stuff like wormholes may prove to only be possible in the realm of science fiction. 

 

 

We are on the far edge of the galaxy and this would make this theory more likely, earth is far from the more densely populated center of the galaxy, its poor in resources its hidden behind countless dust/gas nebulae and who knows how many black holes pulsars are in the way that would probably jam our primitive transmissions beyond all recognition.

 

Actually the center of the galaxy is a poor place to live. You've got a supermassive black hole surrounded by dense stellar nurseries and lots of supernovae going bang. It's a very active part of the galaxy compared to our neighborhood, which probably doesn't bode well for any life that develops there. Just like solar systems galaxies are thought to have a habitable zone. Far out on the galactic edge and planets tend to be poor in the heavy metals needed to form habitable planets, too close to the center and you're in a crowded neighborhood surrounded by massive stars and supernovae.

 

 

 

[Tarek]

I know but the area near the center is older and richer in gas and heavy materials, of course as you get closer things start to get brighter and hotter 

[Fishy]

Well, we could be lucky to have not met a species from another planet, just because they would be more advanced than us doesn't necessarily mean that they are all rainbows and sunshine. They could be hostile, we could be allergic to them or something they bring with them or they us, either of us might start a war due to a misunderstanding/accidental insult (waving to us could be the flipping someone off to them), there are just so many things that could go wrong. 

 

On the off chance that they are friendly, the odds of whoever meets them doing the right thing are slim, I mean what if they land and someone freaks out and shoots one? What if they meet some government leader and that government foolishly tries to take their technology if/when they don't share it? There are awful/stupid people in this world and they could be the point of first contact between both groups... 

 

Doubtful. If they meet us by coming to the planet earth . They're potentialy and extraordinaly more intelligent than we are. Which mean they would understand us a lot more than we would understand them. A cave man being hostile to a modern man because the modern man did something offensive would not make all the modern man of today go ape **** on all these cave man. They would understand that they're a lot less intelligent and thus the modern man would try to be more assertive at aproaching and communicating with them.

 

Which mean.

 

They (The aliens) would take measure to not provoke a war. I doubt they would just land in the middle of New York with giant laser bazooka. They prob would have some kind of techno or just sheer intelligence and they would understand our language right in the bongo. They would be very prudent at dealing with us unless they just plan to conquer us.

 

Do aliens exist ? Don't know. Just because the Earth exist does not mean another Earth exist. Even if the universe is infinite. It could simply mean an infinite amount of planet without life on it. What's the chance that another you exist ? With the same DNA than you  and digital imprint ? Very slim chance even if millions of billions and billions and billions of human  are born after you're. Just because something is infinite does not mean it has to have a twins somewhere.

 

Does intelligent or even life exist somewhere else ? Seriously in the grand scheme of thing. Why does it matters ? The Universe is not empty . Life does not ''fill' anything. The Universe could do well enough without human or lifr for that matters. Although what make life precious or the Earth it's exactly because it's unique.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

 

http://en.wikipedia....osnian_pyramids

 

Maybe even older than Giza Pyramids.

[Tarek]

if we are the only species in the universe, why do I have this weird feeling that we are.. NOT

 

its like ... how can I put this... I cant its just this feeling

 

a lot of people think that each time we reach a tech. break through that ITS OVER we reached the limit, that's what they said about steam engines, our last break through was atomic power, microchips...is it so weird if the next ones are fusion cores and warp drives???

[Halfdan The Menace]

Mysterious hieroglyphs;



The Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacán has the same base dimensions and is half the height of the Great Pyramid at Giza. Did the same "engineer" build it?


Now look at the layout of the pyramids, both Mayan and Egyptian.



Orion's Belt.

[Han Shot First]

Mysterious hieroglyphs;



The Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacán has the same base dimensions and is half the height of the Great Pyramid at Giza. Did the same "engineer" build it?


Now look at the layout of the pyramids, both Mayan and Egyptian.



Orion's Belt.

 

 

[Halfdan The Menace]

[L. Han]

I'd like to think we are the aliens on this planet. Like we were left behind by some old ancient space faring civilization because we are so destructive, unpredictable and outright cruel.

 

Would be funny when we do meet the 'aliens' that left us on the planet and started saying 'my children!'.