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[ButterRum]

On the Halamshiral write up at the Dragon Age website, it states:

"The civil war is now at an impasse," explains level designer Chris Corfe. "The faction leaders are at a peace talk at the Winter Palace in Halamshiral, a magnificent Orlesian structure built on ancient elven grounds. The Inquisition is here to find and stop an assassin."
http://www.dragonage...ook-halamshiral

Could this be Gaspard and Celene attempting to make peace, but an assassin wants to make things worse? Does anyone think the assassin is Briala?

I don't know if Briala wants to kill Celene, but I would expect character development in-game that shows how Briala got to the point of killing her. However, maybe Briala wants to kill some person who represents peace, and if he dies, it would make things worse for Orlais.

I could see us investigating the assassin and then finding out it's Briala and hearing her side of the story, then we get to choose if we let her assassinate the person or stop her.

[AresKeith]

I don't think it's Briala 

[Hellion Rex]

Could be a Venatori assassin trying to bring on some more chaos.

[Daerog]

It's Jaqen H'ghar.

[ButterRum]

I doubt we'll get to choose if the assassin gets to kill either Gaspard or Celene, but maybe there is some representative of peace the assassin wants to kill, and that person's death would bring on more chaos. Maybe we get the option to frame it on faction leader or something.

[LobselVith8]

On the Halamshiral write up at the Dragon Age website, it states:

"The civil war is now at an impasse," explains level designer Chris Corfe. "The faction leaders are at a peace talk at the Winter Palace in Halamshiral, a magnificent Orlesian structure built on ancient elven grounds. The Inquisition is here to find and stop an assassin."
http://www.dragonage...ook-halamshiral

Could this be Gaspard and Celene attempting to make peace, but an assassin wants to make things worse? Does anyone think the assassin is Briala?

I don't know if Briala wants to kill Celene, but I would expect character development in-game that shows how Briala got to the point of killing her. However, maybe Briala wants to kill some person who represents peace, and if he dies, it would make things worse for Orlais.

I could see us investigating the assassin and then finding out it's Briala and hearing her side of the story, then we get to choose if we let her assassinate the person or stop her.

 

Siding with Briala and working with her to help all the elves sounds very appealing for my Dalish mage run, since a return to the status quo means the strong possibility of another thousand years of suffering for the elves.

[MisterJB]

It could be Gaspard por Celene hired the assassin themselves. Either to kill their opponent or even against themselves so they can then claim the other is a disloyal curr who broke parley.

[Wolfen09]

I think its going to be an outside assassin, someone from the venatori or something.  The game is gonna have us choose between celene and gaspard, i dont think they would have either one as the mastermind, as it might affect the decision.  Doubt its briala, shes already thrown enough wood onto the fire with having the elves rebel, why would she risk her 2 enemies uniting to crush her by doing this.  Gotta be venatori...  doubt it would be mages or templars, as their beef is with the chantry.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Briala would want to prevent a peace treaty between Gaspard and Celene but also would not want either of them assassinated because it would also end the war faster. So it seems unlikely she would hire and assassin unless they were not truly targeting either faction leader. She needs them both alive and fighting each other for her plan to work.

[ButterRum]

Will we be able to choose rulers in Ferelden, even though we already did in DAO?

Imagine if we get to unite both Orlais and Ferelden, but if have the option to do that, the next game would be made with possibly different maps and a completely different political atmosphere for each decision, so that's probably not plausible.

[Magdalena11]

I think its going to be an outside assassin, someone from the venatori or something.  The game is gonna have us choose between celene and gaspard, i dont think they would have either one as the mastermind, as it might affect the decision.  Doubt its briala, shes already thrown enough wood onto the fire with having the elves rebel, why would she risk her 2 enemies uniting to crush her by doing this.  Gotta be venatori...  doubt it would be mages or templars, as their beef is with the chantry.

There's an interesting thought, but I thought the Venatori were associated with the mage/templar war?  I could be wrong, since I'm really not all that sure how they fit in in the first place.  If the Venatori are associated with the mages, could it also be a red templar assassin, since we remember those accursed templar hunters from DA2?  That brings it back to 3 possibilities, politics (Celene or Gaspard hired an assassin to off the other), elves (Briala), or mage/templar.  I can't wait to see how this quest turns out.

 

Another interesting side thought:  Oh no, neither Celene nor Gaspard is married.  What if solving the political mess in Orlais could involve another one of those wretched political marriage things?  I don't want to be around to see the headcanons if that can of worms gets opened again.

[wcholcombe]

From the way I read it it is definitely a 3rd party assassin that we were stopping.  If it is Briala, then it would mean the assassin was targeting both Celene and Gaspard, otherwise it doesn't serve her purposes.  I figure that you are seeking to stop an assassin sent by whomever the big bad for DAI is.

[LobselVith8]

There's an interesting thought, but I thought the Venatori were associated with the mage/templar war?  I could be wrong, since I'm really not all that sure how they fit in in the first place.  If the Venatori are associated with the mages, could it also be a red templar assassin, since we remember those accursed templar hunters from DA2?  That brings it back to 3 possibilities, politics (Celene or Gaspard hired an assassin to off the other), elves (Briala), or mage/templar.  I can't wait to see how this quest turns out.

 

Another interesting side thought:  Oh no, neither Celene nor Gaspard is married.  What if solving the political mess in Orlais could involve another one of those wretched political marriage things?  I don't want to be around to see the headcanons if that can of worms gets opened again.

 

The Venatori seem to be making their presence known in other areas as well, as indicated by the map (in one of the demos) that suggests that at least one of them is causing issues in Nevarra.

[Lenimph]

I doubt it's Briala, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was there as a representative of the Elves. I think people continue to underestimate Briala. She hold's the key to the Eluvians for maker's sake. 

[wcholcombe]

Unlikely Briala is there as an invited party. This is a conference for the orlesian civil war, not for every gripe random orlesians have. You don't try to end the civil war and fix elf issues at the same time. This is the nobles and the imperial court, Briala won't be invited. Louis and Richelieu didn't invite the peasants in for their point of view when they were answering the complaints of french princes.

[Magdalena11]

Unlikely Briala is there as an invited party. This is a conference for the orlesian civil war, not for every gripe random orlesians have. You don't try to end the civil war and fix elf issues at the same time. This is the nobles and the imperial court, Briala won't be invited. Louis and Richelieu didn't invite the peasants in for their point of view when they were answering the complaints of french princes.

I agree that it's unlikely Briala would be invited, but assassins are seldom added to the guest list before the invitations go out.  If she's had any time at all, she's established elven spy networks in nearly every major household in Orlais, thanks to the Eluvians, and we know there is one at the winter palace at Halamshiral.  I'm not saying it's definitely her, but she's not eliminated entirely either.

[jlb524]

I can see the assassin being Briala if she's there to kill someone other than Celene/Gaspard.  She needs both of them alive.

 

Unlikely Briala is there as an invited party. This is a conference for the orlesian civil war, not for every gripe random orlesians have. You don't try to end the civil war and fix elf issues at the same time. This is the nobles and the imperial court, Briala won't be invited. Louis and Richelieu didn't invite the peasants in for their point of view when they were answering the complaints of french princes.

 

She's not a random Orlesian and does have a lot of leverage.

 

I don't think Briala would want to go to the thing as a delegate, honestly.  I could see maybe sending spies to make sure Celene and Gaspard don't achieve peace via sabotage of some sort or she could be sending the assassin (if it's not her). The assassin's job may be to kill someone who's an ally with Gaspard and blame it on Celene (to ensure they don't make peace) for example.  

[Steelcan]

It's Jaqen H'ghar.

well we might as well give up on catching him

[Steelcan]

It may be an elf working for Briala to infiltrate the summit, no one said the assassin was invited iirc

[Milan92]

For some reason I think that's where we'll meet Cole......

[fhs33721]

Why would Briala want to kill Gaspard or Celene? As others have already said her plans involve prolonging the civil war. If she kills one of them the civil war will basically be over though.

[StrangeStrategy]

It could be Gaspard por Celene hired the assassin themselves. Either to kill their opponent or even against themselves so they can then claim the other is a disloyal curr who broke parley.

 

Gaspard wouldn't do that because I'm pretty sure his code would forbid him from that kind of treachery.
Celene wouldn't do that because she knows nobody would believe Gaspard actually hired an assassin to kill her while they were "parley"ing.

 

And if they were going to hire an assassin to murder their opponent, I assume they wouldn't do it when they're so close to eachother. Celene would want to be far away from it so it would be less likely they would suspect her, Gaspard certainly wouldn't want to be inside Halamshiral/Winter Palace (Which is under the control of Celene I think) because he would never leave until they decided on who hired the assassin.

 

And Briala wouldn't kill either of them because she wants to prolong the war. So... Venatori sound the most likely to me, in my opinion.

[Medhia_Nox]

Gaspard had a million chances to kill Celene and wouldn't take them.  

 

Having him do so now would be an odd alteration to the already presented character. 

Celene however, would do so in a second (and I don't consider less of her for it - SunTzu would have approved).

 

However - I'm positive (without any proof) that it isn't going to be either of them. 

[azarhal]

Haven't people realized that the best way to keep the chaos up in Orlais is to keep both Gaspard and Celene alive?

Killing one of them is the fastest way to end the Civil War. If that assassination attempt is something planned by the "bad guys" than the target is someone else.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

If this assassin is going after Celene I will happily stand aside and let them do their thing.

 

I might actually consider intervening if they go after anyone else though.