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[congokong]

@Faerunner

 

Your male pc can go through the eluvian with Morrigan even if unromanced so long as the child is yours?

 

Note: As mentioned in the OP, I don't actually follow what I feel Bioware wants me to do. If I did then I wouldn't be role-playing. They are certainly nudging you towards decisions which sometimes I refuse to make. Ex: recruit Sten

[Riven326]

Background:

 

 

I've always pictured the Warden as a male Human Warrior Noble turned Grey Warden. He has a strong belief in the Maker and had dreams of one day becoming a Templar. It didn't work out exactly as he wanted, but he eventually found his calling was with the Wardens.

 

 

Romance:

 

 

He hits it off with leliana and encourages her to keep her faith in the Maker.

 

 

Companions:

 

 

All are recruited except Sten. With his family's murder still fresh in his mind, The Warden takes no pity on Sten. As you recall, he butchered an entire farm hold; even the children. He is left in the cage for the darkspawn.

 

 

Major quest decisions:

 

 

- Redcliffe is saved.

 

- Connor is saved with the Circle of Magi's help. Blood magic was not used.

 

- The Urn of Sacred Ashes is saved. Kolgrim and the High Dragon are defeated.

 

- The Circle of Magi is saved. The decision what to do with the mages is left up to the Knight Templar Commander.

 

- The Werewolf curse is lifted.

 

- The Anvil of The Void is preserved. Golems are needed to fight the Blight, and Orzammar needs it.

 

- The Warden puts down his weapons and is captured at the Howe estate along with Alistair.

 

- Caladrius (the slaver) and his group of slavers are all butchered.

 

- Loghain is brought to justice at the Landsmeet and Alistair becomes king of Ferelden. Anora is deposed.

 

- The dark ritual is reluctantly accepted. The Warden and Morrigan part on bad terms and he makes it his mission to eventually track her down and stop her... by any means necessary.

 

 

Major quest order:

 

 

Redcliffe, Circle of Magi, The Brecilian Forest, Orzammar, The Urn of Sacred Ashes.

[Lavaeolus]

...He has a strong belief in the Maker and had dreams of one day becoming a Templar...

 

This seems an oddly specific default assumption, given I don't think the Warden is ever even given the opportunity to suggest he might join the templars or had any idea once to do so.

[Kenshen]

Cannon for me - It is hard for me to not meta game now but my first time through I was all set to kill Loghain until Riordan stepped in with the joining idea.  To me that makes the most sense if you can put aside your anger/hate for Loghain and what would be best for the country.  It was perfect when I found out a warden had to die to kill AD, I already had my fall guy.  As a human noble who had higher goals than just being a warden or second fiddle to my brother I also thought it would be best to spare the father of the women I had arranged to marry.  Never liked Alistair anyways and since he refused to see the big picture getting rid of him was an easy choice.  I tried to tell him to look out for #1 first I guess he failed in learning that lesson.  Now all that needs to be done is to get my crown fitted and I am all set to rule!

[congokong]

This seems an oddly specific default assumption, given I don't think the Warden is ever even given the opportunity to suggest he might join the templars or had any idea once to do so.

 

lol Yeah, this isn't a "What's your canon playthrough" thread where you post your own story. There probably should be one of those though right before Inquisition is released.

[theskymoves]

At one time I planned on doing a playthough where I only used decisions that would fit the conditions of the extended story set out by Bioware in the novels and Dark Horse comix.

 

Stuff like... The Warden has to be female and romance hardened!Alistair, because it is strongly implied King Alistair had sex with Isabela (which can only happen if he's romanced and hardened  *wink wink*). Via a reference by another character to Isabela wanting to be his queen, it can be assumed that Alistair is not married. So, hardened Alistair, not married to Anora, and of course Loghain is dead. 

 

Alistair's strong reaction to Yavenna's 'ritual' infers that Morrigan's ritual happened, which means 1 - OGB, and 2 - the Warden survived the Blight.

 

Blah blah and etc; it was a really long list, and would have made for a very boring run. (And obviously I have way too much time on my hands.)

[Riven326]

This seems an oddly specific default assumption, given I don't think the Warden is ever even given the opportunity to suggest he might join the templars or had any idea once to do so.

 

I wasn't sure how to address the topic. What is meant to happen in DAO is what happens when I play the game the majority of the time. I know the default canon established by BioWare, but just stating that would be boring and kinda pointless since it's easy to find on Wiki.

[HTTP 404]

I think Loghain doing the Ultimate Sacrifice is the most fit ending in my opinion

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 I think that BioWare quite simply knows their fanbase and makes the "Paragon" decisions in these games more rewarding because that's who they're catering to, as well as optimal third-options that spare players from having to make a more difficult choice. That part is not really news.

 

But I would not say the writers/developers particularly favor any decisions. At least, the game does not feel as though it is assumed you made any particular choices; it is flexible and respects player choice. Only decisions that affect continuity between DAO and its successor feel like ones that are "meant" to happen, like Anders' conscription and survival in DA:A, but I think that says more about DA][.

[gottaloveme]

At one time I planned on doing a playthough where I only used decisions that would fit the conditions of the extended story set out by Bioware in the novels and Dark Horse comix.

 

Stuff like... The Warden has to be female and romance hardened!Alistair, because it is strongly implied King Alistair had sex with Isabela (which can only happen if he's romanced and hardened  *wink wink*). Via a reference by another character to Isabela wanting to be his queen, it can be assumed that Alistair is not married. So, hardened Alistair, not married to Anora, and of course Loghain is dead. 

 

Alistair's strong reaction to Yavenna's 'ritual' infers that Morrigan's ritual happened, which means 1 - OGB, and 2 - the Warden survived the Blight.

 

Blah blah and etc; it was a really long list, and would have made for a very boring run. (And obviously I have way too much time on my hands.)

 

Yavenna - is this someone from the books?

 

wink wink huh? you are shameless.

[theskymoves]

Yavenna - is this someone from the books?

 

wink wink huh? you are shameless.

 

Sorry... I spelt it wrong (which is very unlike me and OMG I'm so embarrassed where's hole I can crawl into and die when I need one?).

 

Yavana. One of characters in The Silent Grove.

 

And indeed I am shameless. If there's a filthy innuendo, ribald pun, or smutty aside to be made, I'm your girl... errr, old lady.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

The "default" history button of DA2 makes it pretty clear what they think was "meant" to happen. They expect you to play a Male Human Noble that becomes besties with Alistair, makes all the Paragon "good" choices in the game, crowns Alistair (it's pretty dang clear Gaider wants Alistair to be King), and performs the ritual with Morrigan. Considering the Warden disappears by the end of DA2 no matter what and the only time we see a confirmation is when a male Warden who romanced and/or performed the ritual with Morrigan decides to go through with her, I'll bet that was the "default" choice reason behind it.

 

Whenever I see people asking, "But what's the canon choice?" "I want my character to be as close to what the writers envision as possible," I cringe. If I decided to do what I think the writers consider "canon," I'd play a Male Human Noble that crowned Alistair and personally impregnated Morrigan, and I ain't doing it. I play female non-humans whose stories clash with the "default" and I'm okay with that. I think unconventional heroes and heroes journeys are more interesting anyway.

The problem is that the default in Inquisition, I think, is a Female Dalish who did the US. (I think she did crown Alistair, though.)

 

As for wanting their character to be as close to that default as possible, that is their right. For myself, even after beating Origins 12 times I have nothing that precisely fits that pregen (in specific my Wardens are all still alive, even the paladin-esque Arcane Warrior who I was honestly considering USing) and am glad for it.