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[thats1evildude]

Short background: The History of Cad'Halash is a side quest in Witch Hunt wherein the PC searches out historical documents throughout Cadash thaig. The PC learns that the old Cad'Halash thaig was destroyed by dwarves from Kal Sharok; the dwarves of Cad'Halash had taken in elven refugees from Arlathan, and their fellows in Kal-Sharok hoped to appease their trading partners in the Tevinter Imperium by eliminating them.

Now, if the PC completed this sidequest, Arianne would know what happened to the Arlathan elves and how they were taken in by the Cad'Halash dwarves. Presumably, she would have told her people upon returning to the Dalish.

As the dwarven Inquisitor is a descendant of those dwarves, would that impact how they are received by Dalish elves? Would they perhaps be a little bit less hostile than they are to other outsiders? Do you think it might get mentioned at all?

[EmperorKarino]

we really got to wait for dragonage keep to come out before we can find out which decisions will impact inquisition, i think they said over 300 choices were in dragonage keep, so heres to hoping that will impact Inquisition.

[Reznore57]

I remember being very interested in this quest...

I'm not sure if it's going to be brought up in DAI.Because it was a very long time ago afterall.

I think the Cadash Thaig , and the Cadash Inquisitor are not the dwarves who saved those elves.

I can't remember if all the dwarves have been killed too.

[TheEternalStudent]

I could see them wanting to honor that debt to a certain extent, that'd be cool

[Sifr]

While I could see Ariane telling her clan and maybe spreading the word about the noble actions of the Dwarves of Cad'Halash, who were murdered by their own kin for harbouring the elves of Arlathan, I don't know whether or not that would matter to modern Dalish Elves who encountered the Cadash Inquisitor.

 

If I recall, the Dwarves in Cadash Thaig at the time it was overrun the Darkspawn (the same ones that Shale belonged to) were just those that resettled the Thaig after it's destruction by Kal'Sharok, so none of them are blood related to those who took in the Arlathan elves. It's possible that a few of them may have been descendants of Cad'Halash survivors, but I suspect the majority came from other Thaigs entirely.

 

Either way, I don't know if they'd have gratitude towards someone for descending from dwarves that once lived in a place that took them nearly two thousand years prior, but likely has no blood relation to the actual rescuing dwarves whatsoever?

[thats1evildude]

The Dalish respect Andraste, even though she freed the elves a thousand years ago.

[Sifr]

Yet aside from surname, the Cadash Inquisitor has no connection the saviors of the elves of Arlathan, certaintly not enough to warrant any more respect? It'd be like someone who family once lived in Gettysburg (in the 1940s) trying to claim that by proximity to the famous site of the Civil War battle, it somehow makes them equally as responsible for the ending of slavery in the United States?

 

The Dalish might recognise the name, but it'd be strange if they held reverence for you because of it?

 

Andraste did help free the elves and that earned their respect, even a thousand years later...

 

The Dwarves of Cad'halash did help the Elves of Arlathan two thousand years earlier, which would have earned their respect...

 

You've done nothing?

[thats1evildude]

I'm not suggesting the elves pour gold at the dwarven Inquisitor's feet and ask him to father children with their most most beautiful daughters.

I'm just suggesting that if the side quest is done, it might be nice if the Dalish response to the Inquisitor is "We greet you, dwarf" rather than "Get out of our f***ing camp, outsider."

[Sifr]

I'm not suggesting the elves pour gold at the dwarven Inquisitor's feet and ask him to father children with their most most beautiful daughters.

I'm just suggesting that if the side quest is done, it might be nice if the Dalish response to the Inquisitor is "We greet you, dwarf" rather than "Get out of our f***ing camp, outsider."

 

Which I completely agree with, it'd be cool if they'd recognise the name, but the Inquisitor should definitely do something to earn their respect via sidequest before they stop treating you as an outsider. Most people seem to be implying they want respect based on our name alone (unless I've read those posts completely wrong?)

 

I could see the Dalish being aware of this new aspect of their history, because presumably there's been an Arlathvhen at some point between 9:30-40 where the Dalish got together to exchange information, unless the various crisises around Thedas caused it to be put on hold?

[myahele]

I don't think they'd care. If anything, elves might even HATE the cadash inquisitor due to them being a criminal family.

Whose to say the Cadash weren't hired to kill of some clans? Maybe even kidnap sell them as slaves?

[thats1evildude]

If Carta gangsters were looking for slaves, I can think of easier ways of getting them than attacking armed Dalish clans.

It also doesn't seem their modus operandi. The Carta is definitely involved in a variety of rackets - lyrium-smuggling, protection, robbery, fixing the outcome of Provings and the odd assassination. I've never heard of them dealing in slaves, though.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Is the Dwarf Inquisitor related to the people of Cal'Hadash? Cal'Hadash was wiped out by Kal Sharok. Cadash Thaig was built on it's ruins and later destroyed by darkspawn. Plus, it's a fairly obscure story from well over a thousand years ago, I doubt it will come up.

[Wolfen09]

if it doesnt involve demonic traveling mirrors, demons, or werewolves, the dalish want nothing to do with you

[Magdalena11]

Nice coincidence, but I don't know if Arianne's clan has contacted any in the Dales in the years since Witch Hunt.  The gathering of clans Fenris mentioned only happens rarely.  Neat to speculate about nonetheless.

[Pohleetakal]

I would hope that it is referenced if you completed that side quest or not, especially because of the possible presence of Arlathan in DA:I in some form (going by the concept art from early this year). I certainly wouldn't put it beyond Bioware to add a line of dialogue for the Dalish when they greet a Cadash Inquisitor, seeing as how so much of the past two games and expansion is being brought forward.

 

Although, to be honest, just the mere mention of Arlathan is getting me all giddy with excitement.

[Sifr]

Nice coincidence, but I don't know if Arianne's clan has contacted any in the Dales in the years since Witch Hunt.  The gathering of clans Fenris mentioned only happens rarely.  Neat to speculate about nonetheless.

 

Actually, the Arlathvhen when the clans meet up to exchange information and occasionally have members swap clans, occurs at least once every ten years. We know that Merrill came to the Sabrae clan from the Alerion clan to become Marethari's First during the Arlathvhen following her birth (possibly the last one, given that she was already displaying signs of magic and a rough guess of her age is early 20's), which took place before Origins, suggesting that the next one is either imminent or happened at some point either during DA2 or between the endgame and the start of Inquisition?

 

Ah, the joys of speculation...

[thats1evildude]

Fenris mentions an Arlathvhen to Merrill in MotA, so something was gonna happen soon.