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[LPPrince]

Do you think it's because they work harder to try overcome the men, so the guys will give her respect? Not trying to start an argument. I am just curious.

 

That could be a part of it, since females have to fight against the overwhelming prevalence of males playing most "hardcore" titles, as well as the focus of advertising and game builds towards the male demo.

 

I distinctly remember a situation back when I was playing one of the DLC maps for CoD Black Ops a few years ago;this one girl was kicking ass no matter what team she was on.

 

On my team, she was getting most of the kills, doing most of the work.

 

On the other team, she was straight up beating my ass and the collective asses of those I was partnered with.

Rather than get upset and start screaming obscenities, throughout the game I would go, "Damn, share some kills, hahaha" or "Holy *expletive* she's got my number, she's taking us down handily"

 

This happened until all of us randoms split, and then I got a friend request and message from her, thanking me for not being condescending or a jerk, but being a gentleman and treating her with respect she doesn't often get from males online.

 

Which is sad. In theory I should just be one of a mass of people that play games and react positively to another player's success;instead I was an outlier of positivity in a sea of negativity. That isn't right, and that NEEDS to change.

 

Then there's a female poster from these very boards;she is FAR better at Destiny's multiplayer than I am. I straight up suck butt, she makes me look like a joke(then again most would make me look like a joke in it). We had many a laugh during the Beta about how I was pure garbage. And the lulz if I did better than she did a couple times.

 

So when it comes to ladies playing hardcore titles, there may be some motivation based on how gaming society treats them, as well as their peers.

 

Women are still just humans in the end of the day;some will be better than others at gaming, depending on the type of game and platform.

[Dr.Fumbles]

it depends on what female gamers want from male gamers.
may it be respect, recognition or some chance to play together.

 

I see. Either way, the trash talking is annoying on both sides of the table.

[Johnnie Walker]

I really don't see why it ever mattered whether or not someone is male or female. Who gives a dead moose's last shiit?

Gender is irrelevant. A gamer is a gamer.

 

On the topic of "what defines a gamer", it's all subjective.

 

In my point of view, someone who just plays crap apps on a phone/tablet/facebook are just people who play a little bs game to pass the time in the doctor's appointment or old people that have nothing else better to do. I wouldn't really consider them gamers.

 

Steam, Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, crappy Origin, and mediocre Uplay is more of the "gamer lifestyle".  I'm mostly a PC gamer but I do love my 3DS, N64 (still play it from time to time), GameCube, 360, Atari 2300 (haven't touched it in years though), and use to play on PS3 before Sony just piissed me off. Been gaming since the early 90s. I put roughly 100 to 140 hours into gaming biweekly. Dunno if I'd consider myself hardcore or not, but to me, the definition of gamer is someone who really loves and appreciates the gaming community and companies. The good ones anyway because let's face it, EA is literally destroying everything it touches.

 

All in all, the objectivity of my post is purely subjective. If you think differently, then fine. That's your perspective and I just don't have that point of view. Simple.

[Dr.Fumbles]

That could be a part of it, since females have to fight against the overwhelming prevalence of males playing most "hardcore" titles, as well as the focus of advertising and game builds towards the male demo.

 

I distinctly remember a situation back when I was playing one of the DLC maps for CoD Black Ops a few years ago;this one girl was kicking ass no matter what team she was on.

 

On my team, she was getting most of the kills, doing most of the work.

 

On the other team, she was straight up beating my ass and the collective asses of those I was partnered with.

Rather than get upset and start screaming obscenities, throughout the game I would go, "Damn, share some kills, hahaha" or "Holy *expletive* she's got my number, she's taking us down handily"

 

This happened until all of us randoms split, and then I got a friend request and message from her, thanking me for not being condescending or a jerk, but being a gentleman and treating her with respect she doesn't often get from males online.

 

Which is sad. In theory I should just be one of a mass of people that play games and react positively to another player's success;instead I was an outlier of positivity in a sea of negativity. That isn't right, and that NEEDS to change.

 

Then there's a female poster from these very boards;she is FAR better at Destiny's multiplayer than I am. I straight up suck butt, she makes me look like a joke(then again most would make me look like a joke in it). We had many a laugh during the Beta about how I was pure garbage. And the lulz if I did better than she did a couple times.

 

So when it comes to ladies playing hardcore titles, there may be some motivation based on how gaming society treats them, as well as their peers.

 

Women are still just humans in the end of the day;some will be better than others at gaming, depending on the type of game and platform.

 

In that situation, I would be a little frustrated. Not because she is a girl; I just don't like my butt being handed to me due to my competitive side. I don't trash talk or talk down though. I normally keep it to myself.

 

As for Destiny, it takes awhile to get used too.

[Cyonan]

In my experience female gamers aren't any better or worse than the male ones. They have the same variety and range in skill that we do.

 

The good ones just get noticed more than the good male gamers, because people see it as being a lot more rare.

[LPPrince]

In that situation, I would be a little frustrated. Not because she is a girl; I just don't like my butt being handed to me due to my competitive side. I don't trash talk or talk down though. I normally keep it to myself.

 

As for Destiny, it takes awhile to get used too.

 

I'm perfectly alright with getting my ass kicked in a game unless its not my fault/my team's fault I'm/we're losing.

 

As for Destiny, I don't know what it is-

 

CoD wise, I was pretty damn good when I stopped playing the franchise

 

Halo wise, I was middling

 

Titanfall wise, I'm pretty damn good

 

etc etc

 

Destiny though? TRASH. I am terribad. I joked with the aforementioned female BSNer that out of The Voice of The Traveler's Hunter wares, I should buy the "Cosmic Joke" Cloak because I'm pure *expletive*

[LPPrince]

In my experience female gamers aren't any better or worse than the male ones. They have the same variety and range in skill that we do.

 

The good ones just get noticed more than the good male gamers, because people see it as being a lot more rare.

 

Aye. And there's the idea that girls suck at games, which is another thing that needs to die.

[SlottsMachine]

Dunno if I'd consider myself hardcore or not, but to me, the definition of gamer is someone who really loves and appreciates the gaming community and companies. The good ones anyway because let's face it, EA is literally destroying everything it touches.

 

All in all, the objectivity of my post is purely subjective. If you think differently, then fine. That's your perspective and I just don't have that point of view. Simple.

 

I couldn't agree more with the bolded. And I read that last sentence in the voice of Fresh Prince for some reason. 

 

[Cassandra Saturn]

Aye. And there's the idea that girls suck at games, which is another thing that needs to die.

give me a match with them and i'll beat their butt. 1 vs team. ^^

[Dr.Fumbles]

I'm perfectly alright with getting my ass kicked in a game unless its not my fault/my team's fault I'm/we're losing.

 

As for Destiny, I don't know what it is-

 

CoD wise, I was pretty damn good when I stopped playing the franchise

 

Halo wise, I was middling

 

Titanfall wise, I'm pretty damn good

 

etc etc

 

Destiny though? TRASH. I am terribad. I joked with the aforementioned female BSNer that out of The Voice of The Traveler's Hunter wares, I should buy the "Cosmic Joke" Cloak because I'm pure *expletive*

 

Yeah. I just get mad myself for not being good enough etc..

 

Some games are that way though. I am good at Destiny, but I stink when I play Halo.

[LPPrince]

Yeah. I just get mad myself for not being good enough etc..

 

Some games are that way though. I am good at Destiny, but I stink when I play Halo.

 

Many a lady will outclass me in Destiny. And its been years since I've played anything Halo, so the same can happen with the MCC.

[bmwcrazy]

I see. Either way, the trash talking is annoying on both sides of the table.

Personally, I trash talk for fun.

Like in DotA 2, all you need is to get one kill and you can talk trash all night. Especially guys, it's funny to see how they get all worked up when a girl does it.

I've also noticed that some guys are perfectly okay when other guys beat them in a game, but when a girl beats them repetitively, they either get really upset or refuse to play with her again.

It's just my personal experience and observation.

[Cassandra Saturn]

Personally, I trash talk for fun.

Like in DotA 2, all you need is to get one kill and you can talk trash all night. Especially guys, it's funny to see how they get all worked up when a girl does it.

I've also noticed that some guys are perfectly okay when other guys beat them in a game, but when a girl beats them repetitively, they either get really upset or refuse to play with her again.

It's just my personal experience and observation.

it's sad truth, but they grew up with idea that male gamers are dominant in the gaming.

[LPPrince]

I've also noticed that some guys are perfectly okay when other guys beat them in a game, but when a girl beats them repetitively, they either get really upset or refuse to play with her again.

It's just my personal experience and observation.

 

Pride. The belief that females are inherently inferior to males skill-wise in games makes losing to a woman hurt more so than a "peer".

 

A sad, sad, sad belief.

[Dr.Fumbles]

Personally, I trash talk for fun.

Like in DotA 2, all you need is to get one kill and you can talk trash all night. Especially guys, it's funny to see how they get all worked up when a girl does it.

I've also noticed that some guys are perfectly okay when other guys beat them in a game, but when a girl beats them repetitively, they either get really upset or refuse to play with her again.

It's just my personal experience and observation.

 

I understand why. It's psychological warfare to mess up the other person. I just get tired of hearing it. I only condone trash talking when it's in real life, and you know your combat capabilities are better then your opponents.

[FraQ]

Most gamers in general are idiots.

 

I'm a male gamer and I can't stand the majority of them so I imagine it's twice as bad for female gamers.

 

As soon as I found a group of like minded people I went friends only and never looked back.

 

Now that I'm switching my primary console from MS to Sony I have to dive into the turbulent waters once again.

 

/sigh

[Dr.Fumbles]

Most gamers in general are idiots.

 

I'm a male gamer and I can't stand the majority of them so I imagine it's twice as bad for female gamers.

 

As soon as I found a group of like minded people I went friends only and never looked back.

 

Now that I'm switching my primary console from MS to Sony I have to dive into the turbulent waters once again.

 

/sigh

 

Playstation people are a lot nicer then xbox people from personal observation.

[Cyonan]

Playstation people are a lot nicer then xbox people from personal observation.

 

In my experience Xbox Live(specifically Halo and CoD) and League of Legends communities are the worst.

 

The rest of PC seems to do alright. Our bad people seem to all go towards MOBA games.

[Dr.Fumbles]

In my experience Xbox Live(specifically Halo and CoD) and League of Legends communities are the worst.

 

The rest of PC seems to do alright. Our bad people seem to all go towards MOBA games.

 

MOBAs are very competitive. That's why.

[Lotion Soronarr]

I guess technically it is. But not in any meaningful sense, at least in regards to the industry as a whole. There have been plenty of "studies" with similar conclusions, but when AAA publishers (across the board) actually care about female consumers then I might believe it. 

 

Dunno.

Seems plenty of female consumers like the kind of casual/tablet/phone games that are being produced.

 

there is obivously a market.

[Cyonan]

MOBAs are very competitive. That's why.

 

I've seen other competitive games where people aren't nearly as bad, and they're still terrible even if not playing ranked games.

 

Although a bad player on your team in something like LoL tends to be significantly worse for the team than in most other competitive games.

[Johnnie Walker]

I hardly have any issues with the Steam community. Except on Team Fortress 2. Apparently Dota 2 can have plenty of annoying people about. But I haven't tried Dota 2 yet. Suppose to play it with some friends this weekend though.

But like FraQ said, I mostly just stick with a handful of friends and play stuff like Borderlands 2, Divinity Original Sin, Age of Empires II HD, PAYDAY 2, etc.

 

Also, in my personal experience, a good bit of gal gamers like to think they're something special for playing video games. Thus they "look" for people to "treat them differently". I have literally heard some woman gamers say stuff like, "I'm a girl btw, so I'll have you guys know, so don't hold back." Whoop-de-do. No one cares. Just play the game. I didn't come here to hear about the person I'm gaming with/against. It's like some of them want to be recognized for being a woman that plays games. So a lot of them are pretty much asking for it. Not all of course, I game with plenty of ladies that don't shove their gender in your face.

[LPPrince]

Playstation people are a lot nicer then xbox people from personal observation.

 

In my experience Xbox Live(specifically Halo and CoD) and League of Legends communities are the worst.

 

The rest of PC seems to do alright. Our bad people seem to all go towards MOBA games.

 

See, this is what I'm on about though;there are bad apples on all sides. There's no major abhorrent behavior slanted towards any side in particular, its spread all throughout. If it does happen, its usually people lumping together to attack a particular side.

 

I've met my fair share of lovelies over Xbox Live, and my fair share of butt plugs. I've never gamed online with a Sony platform(my Sony gaming was the PS1 and PS2, both before the online gens), but I'm sure its the same there. My stepbrothers on their PS3s and 4s refuse to game online because of online attitudes.

 

PCs, same deal. Mobiles, Handhelds, you name it. I don't think anyone should hold a bias towards the communities of any particular platform;don't let the negatives paint the positives.

 

Instead, I say we all make an effort to make our respective sides of the gaming landscape as good as it could be;by being positive and supportive, rather than trying to seclude ourselves in our gaming circles.

 

This is a big thing with female gamers. There are many hardcore female gamers but because of online attitudes often they only game with personal friends, they remain offline, they hide their gender/sexuality, they refrain from using mics, they form their own female-only clans, etc etc

 

Thats all well and dandy, but they shouldn't have to feel the need to do that out of a fear of treatment online.

 

Gaming needs to be more healthy for female gamers.

[LPPrince]

Also, in my personal experience, a good bit of gal gamers like to think they're something special for playing video games. Thus they "look" for people to "treat them differently". I have literally heard some woman games say stuff like, "I'm a girl btw, so I'll have you guys know, so don't hold back." Whoop-de-do. No one cares. Just play the game. I didn't come here to hear about the person I'm gaming with/against. It's like some of them want to be recognized for being a woman that plays games. So a lot of them are pretty much asking for it. Not all of course, I game with plenty of ladies that don't shove their gender in your face.

 

Ahh, the entitled gamers. They suck regardless of gender. I don't find myself playing with many though;99% of the female gamers I've gamed with have been absolutely cool and not used their gender to get an edge.

[Johnnie Walker]

Ahh, the entitled gamers. They suck regardless of gender. I don't find myself playing with many though;99% of the female gamers I've gamed with have been absolutely cool and not used their gender to get an edge.

Lucky for you then. Only about 20% of the ladies I've gamed with weren't all in your face gurl gamer lol. Yet another reason why I prefer sticking to my group of buddies. Or just playing single player.