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[Owlfruit Potion]

Has anyone heard from Giggle lately? In Boom's absence I feel like she's become the de facto head of the group. If she's down with it and no one else strongly objects,* I'd be happy to message everyone in the group (and post the same thing to the Cullen thread if no one objects to that) and ask them for the username (or maybe an anonymous alias if they prefer?) they'd like to sign it with and, if they're up to it, a short note. (While I'll have to rein in my tendency to ramble to fit it, I like Caja's idea of a few tweets as the target max length.)

 

* I know there's at least Gala's strong objection. From the discussion here it seems like there are more strong objections to not signing than there are to signing, though, and about an equal amount of moderate support for either idea, and I doubt we have time to conduct a poll that will reach everyone. :\ I am, of course, potentially biased. This is why an executive decision would be handy if Giggle's around.

[Sister Goldring]

Ok, so how's this for an idea.  If Shadow Reign is OK with it, we could add the username signatures to the end of her card and add something like and on behalf of the #Cullenites or the Cullen thread (subject to R2's approval, of course).  That seems the simplest way to go.

 

Personal messages could be an additional thing and if Owlfruit is OK with organizing the mass love-fest, then she could liaise with Giggle's and Shadow to make sure they are sent out together with the bundle, so we're not sending stuff in dribs and drabs which I imagine would get old real fast for Allan (who I think is our Bioware contact).

 

We'll need to PM every contributor to give them the option of sending a message and give them a hard deadline of say Wednesday to get it done and a word limit.  

 

Actually, another option would be to utilize twitter for the personal messages and include a # in Shadows letter so those Devs who want to check it out could access the personal messages there.  This would probably take less organizing and could be made open to all Cullenites contributors or not.  We'd just need to blast the # on the thread and let a few people like Chachi, Lola etc know in advance what's happening so they could help to get the message out.

 

Twitter is incredibly easy to set an account up in and I think it's safe to say that we all have internet capability and I think it would fulfill our personal message obligation admirably, while providing maximum options for all Cullenites to be included in the gift AND be less demanding of the developers time, as only those who wanted to check them out would do so.  I actually like this idea better than the email letters because having participated in the #Iplaybioware and #memorablegamemoments twitter thing, it was really positive and also we could include our appreciation to Greg Ellis that way too and he's a big part of why we love Cullen too - we'd just have to tweet the # to him.

 

A simply sentence of please check out the #Cullenites (or whatever) on Friday to read some personal messages of thanks from the fans added to Shadow's letter would pretty much have it sorted, with some publicizing at our end on the thread.

 

Any thoughts?

[GiggleLam]

Hi guys! I may or may not have forgotten to check in on the group for a few days...c__c

Anyways! I like the idea of having people write a small message however I know that many people will probably not be able to make the deadline of Wednesday but we really do need to get this together. 

So maybe put the message out to those in the group only? They contributed to the funding after all. So if they can write a little message (maybe no more than a paragraph?) and get it back to us soon it can be added in. And then the general message can be from the Cullenites as a group? 

I'm fairly bad with writing so I'm just happy to say thanks. 

I know some of you want the letter to be passed on with the cake by the baker but I'm worried she won't get it in time. When I was emailing her it would take her about 24-30 hours to reply to me (hell the email where I asked her to take pictures took her a week to reply) since they are so busy. So if we had a deadline of Wednesday for notes, and then it's sent to me to pass on on Thursday it will probably be a bit late... so I'm in the sending it to a dev boat.

[GiggleLam]

Ahhh I just realized...I'll probably (hopefully) be at work when the cakes arrive, so you guys will have to let me know what's happening! I'll attempt to check twitter but I never know how busy my afternoon will be. 

[Galagraphia]

I think we should go on twitter on the cake day and spam BioWare with some clever hashtag, like ChachI did. I believe we simply won't organise everyone in time to write anything on the cake card. But twitter will allow pretty much everyone to join the party.
Do we send a note with the cakes? This part got me confused, the letter won't be ready?

[Caja]

@ Gala: Yes, Shadow Reign is writing a letter on behalf of the Cullenites. The idea was to pass the letter on to the bakery so it would be delivered together with the cakes. But apparently the bakery is very busy right now so they might not check their email in time. I think this option is off the table now. Argh. Our next best option is to send the letter to Allan. We should check if he is in on Friday.

 

@ Sister Goldring: As someone who doesn't use twitter that often how would it work? Do you send a tweet just with the hashtag (#BioWareCakes Thanks for DAI)? Or do you have to send the tweet directly to BioWare (@BioWare #BioWareCakes Thanks for DAI) ? Can people read the tweet even if they are not following you? Sorry, I'm still new to this.

 

Personally, I would still prefer if all the texts stay together and on one platform but I'm okay with the twitter thing. 

 

Either way, I totally support a sharp deadline until Wednesday.  

[Galagraphia]

Allan is on twitter right now. I could ask him if he's going to be at work on Friday, and if one of us could DM him something on forums?

Twitter is easy. If you use #, then when people click on your hashtag, they'll see all posts with this hashtag. Many of the devs follow some of us Cullenites, so I'm sure they will notice that something is going on. Also people who are followed by devs could promote the tweets with this hashag. And if you want, say Brianne Battye to read your tweets, you can directly tag her, like: "Thank you @bbattye for adopting Cullen and taking such good care of him #CullenitesLoveBioWare" - that is a silly example, lol. But if you tag someone, they will see your tweet for sure. I think tagging BioWare will work too

[Owlfruit Potion]

Unless some of us are out of town right now (which is possible), I think it's not at all out of the question that everyone could manage to come up with a few sentences in time for one of us to collect the individual notes and e-mail them to Allan by Thursday evening / Friday morning.

 

But if it's a more acceptable compromise to the people who would prefer no notes or signing, SG's 1. sign usernames + "on behalf of the #Cullenites" (or something) to Shadow's letter, 2. make up a hashtag and tell them what it is in the group letter, and 3. send notes via twitter (or tumblr?) using the hashtag plan is fine by me!

[serenai]

I'd like to be able to send a note with the letter and I know at least one person held back their #IPlayBioware tweets to be able to send those notes with this cake.

 

We could do both - short notes with the letter then a twitter love fest after we get confirmation they've gotten the cakes (wouldn't want to spoil the surprise). How about #CullenCakeParty ?

 

I've messaged Allan and asked if he'll be at work on Friday.

[Caja]

Allan is on twitter right now. I could ask him if he's going to be at work on Friday, and if one of us could DM him something on forums?

Twitter is easy. If you use #, then when people click on your hashtag, they'll see all posts with this hashtag. Many of the devs follow some of us Cullenites, so I'm sure they will notice that something is going on. Also people who are followed by devs could promote the tweets with this hashag. And if you want, say Brianne Battye to read your tweets, you can directly tag her, like: "Thank you @bbattye for adopting Cullen and taking such good care of him #CullenitesLoveBioWare" - that is a silly example, lol. But if you tag someone, they will see your tweet for sure. I think tagging BioWare will work too

 

That's exactly what I don't want since this whole surprise is meant to be for everybody  .

 

Edit: What about the rest? Time is kind of a issue here. LOL. I think I will make short post in the Cullen thread now.

[MacyNell]

That's exactly what I don't want since this whole surprise is meant to be for everybody  .

 

Edit: What about the rest? Time is kind of a issue here. LOL. I think I will make short post in the Cullen thread now.

I'm a little confused. Did we decide to include personal messages? Or are we doing the twitter thing instead of that? Or are we doing both? I'm actually for whatever is the most simple and the easiest to organize, but I really don't know what that is. 

[Ananka]

I'm editing my answer because I'm a bit confused right now and I probably misunderstood.

It seems like we're a bit short on time to gather personal messages and that it'll be difficult to get the messages to the bakery in time. In that case, I think it's a good idea to just send Shadow's letter and sign it with the usernames+'on behalf of the #Cullenites'. If people feel that they want to contribute with a personal message I think it's a good idea that we make a twitter hashtag that they can use. 

 

However:

That's exactly what I don't want since this whole surprise is meant to be for everybody  .

I agree with this. Brianne and Allan and the more outgoing people involved in the game production get a lot of love on Twitter already, but Cullen and the game are a team effort, so I don't think we should target any one person in particular.

[serenai]

Yeah, it's already too late to get anything to the bakery. I think what we were going for is to ask Allan to print it out there at work Friday if he's there (he hasn't answered me yet, I've now sent him a tweet). So for that part we just need to figure out if it will be just the letter, or the letter and notes.

[neonmoth]

Hi guys, sorry I forget to check my groups every now and then.

I am ok with any option, I.e. whether we write personal messages or not, though making it appear that it's from the thread than chosen few is better in my book. It took us a while to arrange the deal and we gained many more Cullenites who don't even know the initiative exists. However, I don't want others who feel the need to write few words to devs being forced into decision. To be honest I like the idea of everyone from the thread joining in, but is this option out of table due to time constraints?

[serenai]

Allan said he could distribute the letter alongside the treats (he knows we are sending something, not sure if he knows exactly what )

[Caja]

I'm a little confused. Did we decide to include personal messages? Or are we doing the twitter thing instead of that? Or are we doing both? I'm actually for whatever is the most simple and the easiest to organize, but I really don't know what that is. 

We're all a little bit confused  .

 

We didn't decide anything yet and are still discussing our options. That's why we should come to an agreement fast .

 

@ neonmoth: No, this option is not off the table due to time constraints. As  matter of fact, we could still do this.

But if we talk about the cakes openly in the thread the surprise could be ruined since one of the devs could see the post. Also, technically the other Cullenites didn't contribute anything so allowing them to write short notes in our letter might not be entirely fair to the members of this group. This were the concerns that came up. 

[serenai]

We could be vague in the thread.. just say we're sending the devs something as a thank-you, deadline is Wednesday evening if you want to add a personal note. For details PM ____ (someone who can answer questions more in detail and collect the personal notes for Shadow).

 

I sent Shadow Allan's info so she can send it when ready.

[Owlfruit Potion]

I think I was the only one who raised the question of everyone getting to sign being unfair to the people who contributed, and I didn't actually mean it that way at all -- I had just meant to argue that at a minimum the people who contributed here had earned the right to put their forum name on it along with the blanket Cullenites name. If anyone has a problem with inviting non-cake-group Cullenites in, please speak up, but I definitely do not!

 

I'm in favor of sending a message to everyone in the group asking for their preferred username and if at all possible a short note by, say, 11:59 PM PDT Thursday night, posting the same message on the Cullen thread, e-mailing Shadow and/or Allan early Friday AM with whatever we get in response to that (and all the usernames regardless of whether they responded, unless they specifically request anonymity), and also doing the hashtag Friday afternoon / evening after the cake is delivered, in case anybody misses the note deadline.

 

It sounds to me like everyone currently posting here is good with that. If anyone isn't please say so, if anyone is please also say so, and if anyone is willing to volunteer to message the group, message the Cullen thread, and collect/send the notes, maybe they can do so in a few hours if no one has spoken up against it? (I'm happy to volunteer, but I'm in work for a while yet so someone else may be able to get it done faster than I could, if they're interested.)

[Aunty Social]

Now I shall have to get some food, and start working on a letter.  Apologies for not being around much.  I've been working A LOT lately. (Fictions, prompt fills, game storyboards, Halloween costumes, NaNoPrep, /headesk)  It's not an excuse not to check the group, so I am very sorry.

 

I am in support of whatever the majority is in support of (easygoing).  I will draft a paragraph and if it gets used, that is awesome, and if not, that is ok too.  Thanks for the heads up

[Galagraphia]

That's exactly what I don't want since this whole surprise is meant to be for everybody  .

 

Edit: What about the rest? Time is kind of a issue here. LOL. I think I will make short post in the Cullen thread now.

I meant it as a way to promote the hashtag, to let them know that this is a thing, and they should check it out. We tweeted Liz and Brianne before to thank all people who worked on Cullen, and they said they let them know (not everyone in BioWare is on twitter too, btw). So the idea is to use the hashtag, write something nice, tag @bioware, @dragonage or any dev you like to draw their attention to the twitter party, and then their curiosity will do the rest. Also when people start retweeting our tweets, more Cullenites may join us (there are Cullenites who don't hang out on forums, but are very active on twitter).

 

Regarding the letter - I delegated my "right" to thank BioWare to Shadow, and I'd like to stay behing the #Cullenites All messages I wanted to send to BioWare I already sent via tumblr anonymously, when I felt like devs needed virtual hugs, and I'd like those messages to stay anon, because signing them would make me feel uncomfortable.

The problem with posting anything in the thread is that it will drown, imho, and very few people will see it. I don't know. I still think one letter from all of us, regardless of who paid for what, who knew about this cake thing, and who didn't, would be the best option. It will look better organized, solid, and will deliver a clear message about what the cakes are for. It will also work awesomely even if twitter party fails.

 

Another idea for hashtag, btw: #CulleniteFriday

Or we could just use #IPlayBioWare again, because they know and love this thing already, and our numbers on twitter will be too few to make our own tag big. Or we could use both hashtags together, to indicate that our tweets are related to the cakes.

 

In the end I will go with the majority (except I won't sign anything), simply because I don't have time to argue, and different time zone and loads of work make communications difficult for me. Let me know on twitter if we are doing the party on Friday, what hashtag we will use, and when will we start.

[Sister Goldring]

Ok, I still feel that time is really short and someone needs to make an executive decision, like NOW.

 

For personal messages I really think Twitter is the most practical and inclusive way of accomplishing the goal.  I like Gal's hashtag.

 

Signatures, I don't care - I'm good with Cullenites.  However, I know it is important to some that their contribution is acknowledged and I don't see how we can ignore those feelings but it's either got to be ALL of us or NONE of us.  If anyone wants to opt out of signing their usual username they could make up an new one for the purposes of the card and therefore they would be unidentifiable anyway.

 

Can we make a call about it though.  So it's not a huge, disorganized, clusterfk on the day.  

[Galagraphia]

Another hashtag idea: #BioWareThanksgiving - a hashtag where we thank BioWare for whatever their games did for us. Will go well with the cake, can go big, because other fans may join as well, not just Cullenites. Link to the cakes can be made in Shadow's letter. Something like, "P.S. Happy #BioWareThanksgiving!" We could start spamming the hashtag the moment we send the letter to Allan. By the time they check the tag, it will be full of awesome. What do you think? DM me on Twitter if you guys decide anything, I may not be on forums today/tomorrow.

[MacyNell]

Ok, I still feel that time is really short and someone needs to make an executive decision, like NOW.

 

For personal messages I really think Twitter is the most practical and inclusive way of accomplishing the goal.  I like Gal's hashtag.

 

Signatures, I don't care - I'm good with Cullenites.  However, I know it is important to some that their contribution is acknowledged and I don't see how we can ignore those feelings but it's either got to be ALL of us or NONE of us.  If anyone wants to opt out of signing their usual username they could make up an new one for the purposes of the card and therefore they would be unidentifiable anyway.

 

Can we make a call about it though.  So it's not a huge, disorganized, clusterfk on the day.  

I actually agree with this. It sounds sensible. I'm good with signing the letter either way, and will be satisfied with whatever is done. I'm content with leaving a nice message on twitter with whatever hashtag we decide to use! 

[Owlfruit Potion]

Well, I said before that I think there are several of us who will be actively pissed off if there are no usernames on it and only one who will be actively pissed off if there are, so I'm willing to make an executive decision on that: Let's sign it. I'll send messages now asking who wants to sign it what. Gala, if you could give us your preferred pseudonym or form of "Anonymous" so it doesn't look like there are fewer of us than there were I think I'm not alone in saying I'd appreciate that. I'll say the same thing in the message if anyone else who hasn't been in this thread feels strongly about remaining anonymous.

 

As for notes, someone else make that call because I think I'm on one far end of the spectrum there.

 

As for the hashtag, I vote for sticking to #IPlayBioWare since they're already reading it, but adding #Cullenites so there's the connection to the cake. But I'm fine with anything as long as it's not so long that we won't have room to express a complete thought.

[Owlfruit Potion]

Actually, an edit to that: I'll wait to send out the messages until someone makes an executive decision on notes so that we don't have to send messages twice if we decide that's a go. Also, can I ask the thread people to sign as well?