So wait... is Cassandra butch or not?!
Real answers for the burning questions of our time people.
I class her as soft butch myself, not overly masculine and just the right amount of feminine to balance it out. A nice in between, *sigh* if only she was available to my fem Inquisitor. Oh well.
Meh, no one cares when it's a game where you play a straight guy with his pick of the women, but as soon as the options are expanded and made more inclusive it's suddenly a "dating simulator" or "fanfiction."
That's because of this weird thing that happens when straight white dudes suddenly feel like they aren't the only ones being catered too, everything else becomes "pandering", lol.
I especially like dat assumption that everyone who oppose those ideas are all dudes. And all white.
Because it's totally the case.
I agree us males have always gotten better choices in Bioware games (in Mass Effect for sure) so I am glad female's are getting some of the better LIs
"Better" is subjective, but it's nice they actually had a cajones to make a female companion who is exclusively lesbian and not available to male PC's at all. I never thought I'd see the day, lol.
I especially like dat assumption that everyone who oppose those ideas are all dudes. And all white.
Because it's totally the case.
Well, I wouldn't mind being catered to.
It's okay for the straight guys to have options. That's not the issue.
The selfishness part is when they are catered to exclusively (or want to be catered to exclusively) and when straight guys complain when people other than them get options.
These same people didn't give a **** that game series like the Witcher had so many sex options for the straight white hero. I've never seen them called dating simulators or fanfiction by these people, even though there are more sex options than most Bioware games.
"Better" is subjective, but it's nice they actually had a cajones to make a female companion who is exclusively lesbian and not available to male PC's at all. I never thought I'd see the day, lol.
Trust me when Sera was confirmed to be female only I had a big fanboy moment I loved it lol
I class her as soft butch myself, not overly masculine and just the right amount of feminine to balance it out. A nice in between, *sigh* if only she was available to my fem Inquisitor. Oh well.
She likes dudes 
It's okay for the straight guys to have options. That's not the issue.
The selfishness part is when they are catered to exclusively (or want to be catered to exclusively) and when straight guys complain when people other than them get options.
These same people didn't give a **** that game series like the Witcher had so many sex options for the straight white hero. I've never seen them called dating simulators or fanfiction by these people, even though there are more sex options than most Bioware games.
I wasn't referring to being cater to as a straight guy. I mean Bioware catering to me, personally, regardless of my orientation. I figure if I'm going to make unreasonable demands, I may as well go full bore.
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I f***ing cackled, OMG.
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DYING! xD
Trust me when Sera was confirmed to be female only I had a big fanboy moment I loved it lol
We shall adopt you friend, you can be my formal occasions beard.
but I already shaved my face this week lol
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Eh, the appearance of a companion gay Love Interest in Bioware's game was a question of when, not if. ME3 made it pretty clear. It was just the first attempt and there was little room for any new interest beside NPCs, so of course there would be more
Welp, I'm definitelly not a man and I'm not quite white (this term is way too vague, tho)... and I'm still not fond at all when people generalise and mock white straight guys [insert any other generalisation towards "priveleged" type of people] as well. Or anyone based on their race, gender or sexuality. That's just mean. Be mean to mean people only and don't judge anyone by the colour of their skin, their sexuality or sex bits, be it, eh, anything from poc to straight or even alien
Eh, the appearance of a companion gay Love Interest in Bioware's game was a question of when, not if. ME3 made it pretty clear. It was just the first attempt and there was little room for any new interest beside NPCs, so of course there would be more
Welp, I'm definitelly not a man and I'm not quite white (this term is way too vague, tho)... and I'm still not fond at all when people generalise and mock white straight guys [insert any other generalisation towards "priveleged" type of people] as well. Or anyone based on their race, gender or sexuality. That's just mean. Be mean to mean people only and don't judge anyone by the colour of their skin, their sexuality or sex bits, be it, eh, anything from poc to straight or even alien
Once you have 9 companions and 6 romances, it's no longer a question of why have gay and lesbian love interests. It becomes a question of, why not?
Once you have 9 companions and 6 romances, it's no longer a question of why have gay and lesbian love interests. It becomes a question of, why not?
There would be gay LIs even if there were less than 8 LIs. Maybe not if 4 (all bi, again, I guess?). But 6 and more? Definitelly
This is something Bioware has been wanting to do for a long time but they weren't quite sure how the audience would take it. Remember, the last time they tried to do a more or less mature love scene ME1 got pummeled by journalists.
Now they know that the audience (majority) is ready. The society in general has become much more tolerant in the past decades as well.
So, as people say, "it's time and there's no turning back". Or sth
I feel your pain, OP. All I've ever wanted for my male PC is a noble, knightly kind of guy. And yet... Alistair=straight, Sebastian=straight, Cullen=straight. Wahhh! 
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I feel your pain, OP. All I've ever wanted for my male PC is a noble, knightly kind of guy. And yet... Alistair=straight, Sebastian=straight, Cullen=straight. Wahhh!
Don't throw into despair just yet. Blackwall still has a shot of making it in as a LI.
I find it shameful that the minority I belong to has a tendency to find it perfectly okay to insult straight people when they've fought so hard to obtain the recognition they have.
What gay people forget often I believe - is that we've been complaining for years. Why? Because we had very little - to nothing - to work with. And straight gamers (mainly men I suppose) never had to complain in particular because they had the pick of the litter.
So... now that everybody gains, everybody also has a chance to lose out on something. I'm not sure I "will" be a fan of Dorian... or Bull. And if I want to express disappointment in "another gay mage" or... "a buff Zevran" it's totally okay.
But it's also totally okay for any straight gamer to be bummed that Sera won't be available or that Dorian won't be available for the ladies.
Doesn't mean they want to steal Sera away from the poor downtrodden gays. It just means they like Sera and think she's cool. Maybe for different reasons than lesbians find her attractive.
If, as gays, we want to be equals - we've had the romances shared with us (whether they should be is, like it or not, irrelevant) - and now everyone else gets to share in the complaining that their favorite character might not be available. Not some bitchy: "I'm oppressed, I deserve this character and you should just suck it up cause I've been without for so long." As if any of the young people here really even know what it is to be oppressed as gay. Being equal... is being equal altogether.
I agree with Chari, but amend with - even be nice to those mean bastards.
I agree with Chari, but amend with - even be nice to those mean bastards.
No.
If you were here at all on the forums when it got revealed that Sera was a lesbian only companion, you would be amazed at all of the homophobia, sexism and entitlement that was being thrown around. Ignoring those kinds of reactions for fear of "insulting" the other men who are dick heads makes no sense, those men should be and a lot of them were just as appalled by that behavior.
Those kinds of reactions or behaviors are not tolerated, and showing an image to point out the ridiculousness of the "not all men" argument is not even remotely the same thing, do not make false equivalencies.
Please keep discussion civil and on topic so we can keep this thread open. Thank you.
To be honest though, I'm not sure what's considered on-topic for this thread since at first glance, it seems to be about the benefits/costs of all bi characters with a focus on Cassandra.
I'm probably one of the only straight males who was happy Sera was made a lesbian
I was in favor (though not really an advocate) of a set-sexuality system from the beginning like what we have in DA:I, so I'm happy in that case too.
I'm probably one of the only straight males who was happy Sera was made a lesbian
I was cool with it.
Don't throw into despair just yet. Blackwall still has a shot of making it in as a LI.
Very true! I still continue to hope 
I would love to have a LI I were truly excited about for this game.
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