If I remember right, Gaider said that if they were to ever add vampires it would be more beastly. So think more monster bat.

If I remember right, Gaider said that if they were to ever add vampires it would be more beastly. So think more monster bat.

These days vampires have been tainted for me so..

If I remember right, Gaider said that if they were to ever add vampires it would be more beastly. So think more monster bat.
That would work as Vampires/Hunger Abominations ![]()
I remember David Gaider addressing the question of Vampires in Dragon Age. He said the closest you'd get is a person possessed by a hunger demon. But those would be closer to zombies.
I reckon Avernus isn't a Grey Warden at all and in fact hes a vampire. Isn't it obvious?
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Oh you hadn't heard? Ah, well, let's just say there's a reason he's called Cullen
Auuughhh!!! noooo! lol
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I remember David Gaider addressing the question of Vampires in Dragon Age. He said the closest you'd get is a person possessed by a hunger demon. But those would be closer to zombies.
Zombpires
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These days vampires have been tainted for me so..
Tainted vampires are good. Darkspawn vamps. I kid.
As others have pointed out, the codex mentions they do exist in this world, but are living creatures possessed by hunger demons.
The "Maiden in Distress" quest has you fight a hunger demon that had possessed a young woman. I'm guessing she was a vampire, in Dragon Age terms.

Vampires you say?
You could argue that Reavers are Daywalkers ![]()
What I like about DA lore is that they make traditional enemies (Like Zombies) far more interesting by explaining them with demons. A zombie isn't some corpse animated by magic; its a corpse that got possessed by a demon from across the veil. A vampire isn't some half-undead immortal race, its a creature possessed by a Hunger Demon. Werewolves are created by Spirits of Rage and nature or something. I think its pretty cool.
I can't think of any reason for Demons to fight eachother... But it would be very cool to see a Hunger abomination with a unique model (resembling a vampire) instead of the standard robed tumors things we see in DAO and DA2.
V:tM is great but wrong for the setting, same for Legacy of Kain. Id like something like pale man from Pan's Labyrinth though.
I have a dream, that someday people will be able to talk about vampires, without someone needing to make fun of Twilight. If you hate it so much, please feel free to move on with your lives ( I mean it has been years, why let something you don't like occupy so much space in your brain????). Twilight won't miss you and neither will the swinging door on your way out. hahaha!
Though back on topic, I'd like to see vampires in Thedas for certain! Especially if they weren't mindless demons.
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I'd love to discover the werewolves of Thedas have their age-old enemy: vampires. Also a vampire-werewolf fight would be amazing. If there were vampires in this game or future DA games, I hope they're the ghoulish type, vs the pretty type.
NO.
Vampires and werewolves are NOT age-old enemies. That idea as ancient and epic as "pirates vs. ninjas," "Picard vs. Kirk," and "Ketchup vs. Ketsup." The idea that they've been enemies for centuries is a VERY recent one. The idea was created by mid-20th century Hollywood monster mash films like Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman, where Dracula and the Wolfman squared off, and became popular to the mainstream thanks to the film Underworld. Then the masses ran with it and acted like it was always so when really it's not.
For centuries, vampires and werewolves were thought to be allies, or at least mutually tolerant of one another. In Romanian and Eastern European folklore, which is where the vampire and werewolf myth as we know them comes from, they were often thought to be very similar, if not the same creature. In many regions, vampires were thought to be what werewolves became when they died and rose again. Until Underworld, most people just assumed vampires and werewolves were just more creatures that went bump in the night; if they didn't actively support each other, they were at least as mutually indifferent as ghouls, ghosts, goblins, witches, etc. You didn't see large amounts of people saying "Vampires and werewolves are age-old enemies!" any more than you saw someone saying, "Witches and ghouls have been at war for centuries!"
BESIDES: Vampires were not always the special, sophisticated, intelligent, aristocratic superhumans they are in modern Hollywood. That idea was created by 19th century British Gothic writers, like William Polidori's "The Vampyre," J. Sheridan Le Fanu's "Carmilla," and then cemented by Bram Stoker's Dracula. Before then, vampires were mostly thought of as drooling corpses or slightly more functional ghouls, that stalked graveyards and villagers, and drank blood instead of eating flesh. Likewise, in Dragon Age, vampires are just slightly stronger and more intelligent undead that drain blood/life force. Which is actually closer to how people thought of vampires in the middle ages.
Learn your folklore history.
I think the whole vampire vs werewolf thing got started by White Wolf, or at least this is my earliest exposure to the idea.
The vampires represented civilization and urbanization while the werewolves were more like spiritual guardians of nature, part of a natural ecosystem response against the corruption that the vampires were unknowly involved with. The vampires did not think of themselves as a corruption but as Bloodlines, a series of sanguinous lineages, the Vampires had strong interests in maintaining human civilization, one blood lineage, the Ventrue were pretty much the upholders of civilization.
Man, White Wolf's "World of Darkness" was pretty great.
The Underworld movies picked up on this idea without the ecological themes, which is a bit sad but it avoids the intellectual property aspect that White Wolf might have had. Also the point of the Underworld movies was an hybrid evolution of vampires and werewolves, which interpreted in White Wolf's terms would be corrupted werewolves.
I know its been said, but I wish Bioware would do the "White Wolf" universe.
Vampires can't even come in uninvited or cross running water and they have to count any amount of small things like grains or beans or sand you pour in front of them. They won't really be too useful against the inquisitor.
Also I feel like blood mages that use others blood are already a vampire equivalent that isn't underpowered and fits well with the lore?
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Vampires vs werewolves is pretty much my least favorite thing. I don't mind seeing vampires (as hunger demon possessions), but pls no with that Hollywood movie cliche.
Yep, it'll be funny if Hunger abominations actually look similar to Vampires
Not Hunger Abominations per se. Just people possessed by Hunger Demons.
Think a filthy peasant who gets possessed.
NO.
Vampires and werewolves are NOT age-old enemies. That idea as ancient and epic as "pirates vs. ninjas," "Picard vs. Kirk," and "Ketchup vs. Ketsup." The idea that they've been enemies for centuries is a VERY recent one. The idea was created by mid-20th century Hollywood monster mash films like Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman, where Dracula and the Wolfman squared off, and became popular to the mainstream thanks to the film Underworld. Then the masses ran with it and acted like it was always so when really it's not.
For centuries, vampires and werewolves were thought to be allies, or at least mutually tolerant of one another. In Romanian and Eastern European folklore, which is where the vampire and werewolf myth as we know them comes from, they were often thought to be very similar, if not the same creature. In many regions, vampires were thought to be what werewolves became when they died and rose again. Until Underworld, most people just assumed vampires and werewolves were just more creatures that went bump in the night; if they didn't actively support each other, they were at least as mutually indifferent as ghouls, ghosts, goblins, witches, etc. You didn't see large amounts of people saying "Vampires and werewolves are age-old enemies!" any more than you saw someone saying, "Witches and ghouls have been at war for centuries!"
BESIDES: Vampires were not always the special, sophisticated, intelligent, aristocratic superhumans they are in modern Hollywood. That idea was created by 19th century British Gothic writers, like William Polidori's "The Vampyre," J. Sheridan Le Fanu's "Carmilla," and then cemented by Bram Stoker's Dracula. Before then, vampires were mostly thought of as drooling corpses or slightly more functional ghouls, that stalked graveyards and villagers, and drank blood instead of eating flesh. Likewise, in Dragon Age, vampires are just slightly stronger and more intelligent undead that drain blood/life force. Which is actually closer to how people thought of vampires in the middle ages.
Learn your folklore history.
Honestly though you would expect vampires, werewolves, and any and every human eating monster to fight each other or at least try to drive each other out of their territory because an ecosystem can only handle so many top of the food chain predators who go after the same prey.
I mean obviously it wouldn't be specifically just between those two that is silly. They should also hate any wendigos or zombies or yuki-Onna they run into because no this is my hunting grounds
Well I mean presuming the werewolves in this story actually hunt humans. In a lot it's more like humans keep accidentally getting in their way and they'll just eat any meat from livestock to human to just running out in the woods and taking a bite at stuff there.
So really monsters should act like predators driving off others who want their food supply. Or like mob families agreeing on territories.
Werewolves already have enough trouble with the Dalish. Why would you want to lump them with vampires too? ![]()
Though if we were ever to see vampires appear in DA then I'd definitely not want to see the tired vamps vs weres cliche. Let them be completely separate if they do appear.
Aren't mages sorta vampires when they use blood drain and mana drain?