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[JasonPogo]

The only two characters that seemed to me to make sense would have been Iron Bull and Varric.  But we know IB is not race gated and Varric is now confirmed as unromancable.   So what possible reason could they have to race gate any of the other romances?  Just seems like it is going to make some people mad. 

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

Only ones I can think of that would make sense is Cullen (has shown a dislike in dwarfs and qunari), Vivienne (her attitude and background shows she may not be interested in anyone but humans) and Solas (he may not be into dwarfs since they can't dream), some say Dorian might be against Qunari cause of the war between them and Tevinter. 

[JeffZero]

It will, but I have faith it's being done entirely for reasons which are logical to the writing staff. I mean, this isn't the sort of thing I can begin to fathom them doing for any reason other than a dedication to strong characterization as per whatever they collectively dictate to be the case.

 

Cassandra, Cullen, Sera, Vivienne, Dor -- I'm really just typing names over here. I don't know. Each and every last one of them, sans Josephine and Iron Bull, anyway, might have psychological aspects we aren't currently privy to.

[Nevara]

They might as well just spill the beans at this point.  With Varric revealed as unromancable, they might as well just do it quickly, like a band-aid.  Either way, people are going not going to be happy.

 

But if I had to venture a guess I'd say Viv and Cullen.

[Kingthlayer]

I'm of the opinion that the race gaters will be people who only romance their race.  So Vivienne only going for humans instead of Solas going for everyone but Dwarves.

 

Which leads me to Vivienne and Cullen as my picks.

[JasonPogo]

My problem is how do they do it without making the character seem like an ass.  I have faith in the writers but say Dorian is anti Qunari do to the war.  Well once he relieses we have nothing to do with the Qun have nothing to do with our people and we are a good person.  He just kinda comes off as a picky jerk to the player.

 

EDIT:  I will gladly eat my words and say I was wrong if ty find a way to do it good in the game.  Just at this point I can't see how they will do it.

[JeffZero]

This Vivienne/Cullen logic makes sense to me. I will adopt it now.

[DameGrace]

Another question is how race-gated they are. Do they have something against their own race? Against all races but their own? 

 

Especially, considering that these two mysterious LI are race-gated for story purposes. There are lots of story purposes to come up with. 

[JasonPogo]

Man if they race-gate Cullen....  They already made him straight pissing off 50% of the Cullen fans.  Now if they make it so he will only romance humans?  People will flip.

[JeffZero]

Another question is how race-gated they are. Do they have something against their own race? Against all races but their own? 

 

Especially, considering that these two mysterious LI are race-gated for story purposes. There are lots of story purposes to come up with. 

 

"Something against their own race" is an interesting concept to explore in the future, I think, even if I don't see it as the case here. Not necessarily as a romance thing, either, but just as a concept. An elf that reviles Dalish through and through. A human that thinks humans are the bane the Dalish claim them to be -- with historical proof and more scrolls than Genetivi! 

 

I guess, looking back, we do kind of see these shades in the series already, to an extent, though, huh? Kinda helps make Dragon Age so special to me.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Man if they race-gate Cullen....  They already made him straight pissing off 50% of the Cullen fans.  Now if they make it so he will only romance humans?  People will flip.

 

Especially if they gate him against elves, since he's flustered by Femme!Surana in the mage origin, same as Femme!Amell.

 

(I mean, I don't think they will, but yes, there would be table flips if they did.)

[BloodKaiden]

My problem is how do they do it without making the character seem like an ass.  I have faith in the writers but say Dorian is anti Qunari do to the war.  Well once he relieses we have nothing to do with the Qun have nothing to do with our people and we are a good person.  He just kinda comes off as a racist jerk to the player.
 
EDIT:  I will gladly eat my words and say I was wrong if ty find a way to do it good in the game.  Just at this point I can't see how they will do it.

I don't see why racism would even play into it. Some people just have preferences.

[Nevara]

Man if they race-gate Cullen....  They already made him straight pissing off 50% of the Cullen fans.  Now if they make it so he will only romance humans?  People will flip.

 

Cullen could be alright with elves and humans, since he hasn't seemed to have a problem with them before.  Qunari and dwarves on the other hand, he may have a bit of a problem.  If it was more a preferential thing, like height restrictions, I could (it's a stretch) be okay with that.

Now if people were class-gated well...  I shudder to think.

[Andraste Take the Wheel]

I'm of the opinion that the race gaters will be people who only romance their race.  So Vivienne only going for humans instead of Solas going for everyone but Dwarves.
 
Which leads me to Vivienne and Cullen as my picks.

Im pretty sure they said they wanted to keep it even though. Would that way not give humans two exclusive options nobody else has, bumping their number of potential romances per playthrough above everyone else's?

Seems unfair to me.

[Ex-Paladin]

There are eight romances. Six have been revealed. Two left. Most likely, the last two are gonna be the ones that are race restricted.

 

Personally, I feel it might be Viv for humans and Solas for elves. Just my two cents

[AresKeith]

My problem is how do they do it without making the character seem like an ass.  I have faith in the writers but say Dorian is anti Qunari do to the war.  Well once he relieses we have nothing to do with the Qun have nothing to do with our people and we are a good person.  He just kinda comes off as a racist jerk to the player.

 

EDIT:  I will gladly eat my words and say I was wrong if ty find a way to do it good in the game.  Just at this point I can't see how they will do it.

 

Not being sexually attracted to a race =/= being a racist

[KaiserShep]

Now if people were class-gated well...  I shudder to think.

 

The only sensible way for this kind of thing to work would be to have certain characters to have a thing against mages, since rogues and warriors are basically the same thing. In DA2, it would have made perfect sense for Fenris, for example, to be class restricted so that a mage Hawke couldn't romance him.

[JeffZero]

EDIT: Whoops, nevermind. I was unsure if I was remembering something correctly or not and it turns out I wasn't. Deleting this so newcomers to the thread don't walk away with misinformation.

[Lenimph]

Especially if they gate him against elves, since he's flustered by Femme!Surana in the mage origin, same as Femme!Amell.

 

(I mean, I don't think they will, but yes, there would be table flips if they did.)

The thing is tho is that Elven Inquisitor is Dalish unlike the Mage Elf Warden, and it would make sense for them to not be as open to being with a Dalish.

 

That's kind of why I'm thinking its Cullen and Cass 

[AresKeith]

Im pretty sure they said they wanted to keep it even though. Would that way not give humans two exclusive options nobody else has, bumping their number of potential romances per playthrough above everyone else's?

Seems unfair to me.

 

They never said anything about being fair towards player races

[JasonPogo]

Ok ok I get it I changed the racist word sheesh.  But tell me if you play a Dwarf and people start friend zoning you left and right you would not get resentful.

[Trophonius]

My problem is how do they do it without making the character seem like an ass.  I have faith in the writers but say Dorian is anti Qunari do to the war.  Well once he relieses we have nothing to do with the Qun have nothing to do with our people and we are a good person.  He just kinda comes off as a racist jerk to the player.
 
EDIT:  I will gladly eat my words and say I was wrong if ty find a way to do it good in the game.  Just at this point I can't see how they will do it.

My problem with Dorian being race-gated is that he's already restricted to male inquisitors. There are a small portion of us who will experience his romance because of that reason so further limiting him to certain races seems unlikely. IIRC, one of the devs mentioned that race-gated romances exist for plot reasons. Unless the qunari inquisitor is a Qun adherent (which we know isn't the case) or Bioware has decided that Dorian is typical of a high ranking Tevinter mage after all, then there's virtually nothing I can think of that would prevent Dorian from being romanced by any race.

[Drasanil]

I hope some of the elves are race-gated, if only because they are the only ones that are truly in danger of being bred-out by literally everyone else, be nice to see at least one NPC acknowledge or care about it. 

[Ex-Paladin]

Actually, one of the devs specifically stated that wasn't the case the other day, come to think of it.

 

Of course now I've probably lit a spark in the thread and I'm getting ready for bed and there's no way I'm gonna be able to find that snippet, so uh... whoops. Hopefully I'm not misremembering.

 

But It was something about, I think David Gaider, saying, "it's interesting that people are running on the basis that the two unrevealed LIs are the race-restricted, seeing as they aren't." Does anyone recall this?

 

Am I going crazy?

 

Really? Huh...I did not know this lol I don't keep up with the threads that often, just to see if there is any new info for game

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

This is from a recent article that had some good points and this is what she said about Cullen

 

"Anyone that played DA Origins as a female mage knows all to well the charms of the former shy and stammering Knight Templar. As a mage, you could play either as a human or an elf, and both races could easily get their flirt on with Cullen. Based on conversations with Cullen in Dragon Age 2, he obviously has negative feelings towards the Qunari and if his remarks towards Orghren in Dragon Age Origins is any kind of reflection of his opinions of Dwarves, he is clearly not very fond of them either. Potentially, this makes him a really good candidate for race gating, while still leaving him relatively available for a lot players."