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So who the heck are the race gated romances?


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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think Solas will be race gated given his insistence on not being seen as just an elf.  It would be strange for him to hold such a view... but then be race gated against non-elves.  :?

 

 

People are taking that way to literally, nowhere does that say it is relating to his personal life, if anything he wants to be seen as more than an elf in his professional life as a fade expert. 


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People are taking that way to literally, nowhere does that say it is relating to his personal life, if anything he wants to be seen as more than an elf in his professional life as a fade expert.

 
It does relate to his personal life as he sees things like the Mages and Templar, Humans and Elves conflict as "little more than the black-and-white reductionist"



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nowhere does it say it has anything to do with his love life



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Vivienne being race-gated makes sense story wise but everybody else I don't know :mellow:    



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Dorian is race gated to only date qunari. It's the ultimate screw you to the tevinter traditionalists he hates.


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So there is two race-gated companions. I'd think one is woman and one man. So this means:

 

Race-gated man is Solas/BW, Dorian or Cullen <- one of them.

Race-gated woman is Vivienne, Sera or Cassandra. <- one of them.

 

I think bi-one's have higher chance of being race-gated since they aren't gated already. Although the race-gated one's can also be gay or hetero one's since BW has said they will race-gate for story reasons.

 

I wonder if the race-gating will go somehow equally or will it be dwarf and qunari-gate for both sexes cause that would suck ^^; There seems to be quite small chance that humans are being gated though.



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Posted this elsewhere, but here's my suspicions.

 

If Vivienne is a romance option (something which I don't know has been confirmed or denied yet, I suspect she might be race-gated for Human Inquisitors only, since as a high-profile figure in the courts of Orlais, it'd probably not do well for her public image to be seen dallying with an ex-mercenary Qunari who's (Tal-)Vashoth, Dalish Elf or a Dwarf with ties to the Carta?

 

I'd suspect that her being unwilling to romance a non-Human Inquisitor would be less to do with her caring about their race and more about her caring about the political backlash she'd get from (bigoted) people to whom race does matter.

 

In Orlais, appearance is everything, after all.



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Posted this elsewhere, but here's my suspicions.

 

If Vivienne is a romance option (something which I don't know has been confirmed or denied yet, I suspect she might be race-gated for Human Inquisitors only, since as a high-profile figure in the courts of Orlais, it'd probably not do well for her public image to be seen dallying with an ex-mercenary Qunari who's (Tal-)Vashoth, Dalish Elf or a Dwarf with ties to the Carta?

 

I'd suspect that her being unwilling to romance a non-Human Inquisitor would be less to do with her caring about their race and more about her caring about the political backlash she'd get from (bigoted) people to whom race does matter.

 

In Orlais, appearance is everything, after all.

 

That's what I consider happening with her, assuming she's a romance. Though I think it's possible that MAYBE elves would be a possibility, at least if they 'perform' in a certain fashion or something for the courts, given that elves are 'almost human' in appearance and so they serve as a novelty for the nobility. But I can easily see dwarves and qunari out of the running with her.

 

But I really don't see what we know of the other characters explaining them being race-gated so easily - Josephine and Iron Bull are confirmed available for everyone, while Cullen, Cassandra, Dorian, and Sera are all already restricted by gender, it seems unlikely to me that they'd throw race on there as well, which leaves mystery romance option number 2. If that's Solas, I could see him not romancing a dwarf, given that he is an expert on the Fade - it'd be something that they couldn't share, due to dwarves being magic-blind. But that's really the only barrier I can see in play for any of them.

 

I don't know, maybe Cullen has this thing about dwarves and qunari-related PTSD. *shrug*



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Cassandra, Sera, Dorian, Josephine and Iron Bull all have supporting reasons both in and out game to not be race-gated. Surely the race gates will be between Cullen, Solas and Viv'.

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I don't know, maybe Cullen has this thing about dwarves and qunari-related PTSD. *shrug*

 

Hmm if anything, he'd avoid mages due to his mage tower experience and PTSD. But if he's Dwarf-gated, we will have a ragestorm of epic proportions... xD



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I hope some of the elves are race-gated, if only because they are the only ones that are truly in danger of being bred-out by literally everyone else, be nice to see at least one NPC acknowledge or care about it. 

The only confirmed romanceable elf is a lesbian, so the race of potential offspring isn't really an issue.

 

But I'm guessing that the romances will have only one restriction. If they're only attracted to women or if they're only attracted to men, they will be attracted to *all* women or *all* men. If they are only attracted to a specific race, they will be attracted to *all* of that specific race. It's easier to script it that way, but also, I don't think they're going to want to restrict the pool of potential romances too much.



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I wish they would just confirm it already. 



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I suppose making guesses is not so bad after all. I know, everyone discriminates againts something. That would be the only logical explanation.

 

Spoiler

 

Seriously though, I think it would be for the best if Bioware announced them before the game is released. People don't stop guessing and at this point it's going to cause more disappointment than excitement.


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Posted this elsewhere, but here's my suspicions.

 

If Vivienne is a romance option (something which I don't know has been confirmed or denied yet, I suspect she might be race-gated for Human Inquisitors only, since as a high-profile figure in the courts of Orlais, it'd probably not do well for her public image to be seen dallying with an ex-mercenary Qunari who's (Tal-)Vashoth, Dalish Elf or a Dwarf with ties to the Carta?

 

I'd suspect that her being unwilling to romance a non-Human Inquisitor would be less to do with her caring about their race and more about her caring about the political backlash she'd get from (bigoted) people to whom race does matter.

 

In Orlais, appearance is everything, after all.

See I always had a different impression of Orlais, I'd imagine it to be rather fashionable one year to have a Qunari or a Dwarf as a mistress or male equivalent. See I believe Orlais is ruthlessly fashionable with all the opulence and posturing of Versailles and those who lived there, and that includes endless fashion trends and a large amount of sex. I don't think it'd be considered odd at all to enter a ball one evening with a Dwarf or Qunari that you are sleeping with, only odd that it's not just sex. So if I were to try and apply that to Vivienne I'd suggest that she starts a relationship wanting a casual dalliance and gets muddled up in feelings.


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 thinking of what would scandalize his family the most

 

Makes no sense. We're talking about an adult man here not an unstable rebeleous teenager who wants to insult his family just for the fun of it. 

Also, I think being gay is scandalous enough for them.

 

Only 2 options makes sense so far - it's Vivienne and Cullen. And as for Cullen it's easily can be turned around since he's no longer a templar and no longer has to be such close minded as he was before. 

And Vivienne being racegated while being a vicious b-ch I won't be surprising at all.



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I get the feeling that if the race-gates were happen to one out of Dorian, Sera, Cullen, and Cassandra, one of the remaining LI would share the same orientation as the one was was race-gated. Said LI would be race-gated as well.

 

Like, say, if Cullen (since I've been hearing his name pop up as a possibility more than the others) were to be restricted to just humans and elves, Blackwall would be the other heterosexual male for female Inquisitors to romance... he'd probably just restrict himself to dwarves and qunari and he's thinking "right, I'm gonna die soon, might as well go crazy with my love life, am I right?"...

 

This doesn't make much sense to me either, but since Iron Bull and Josephine could be romanced by any race, either sex, and that Varric was out of the equation, I'm grasping at straws here. A part of me doubts that we'll have more than three bisexual characters here. I'm predicting that the last two are Blackwall (heterosexual) and Solas (bisexual). But I'm still really hoping for Solas and Vivienne as both bisexual characters.



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This doesn't make much sense to me either, but since Iron Bull and Josephine could be romanced by any race, either sex, and that Varric was out of the equation, I'm grasping at straws here. A part of me doubts that we'll have more than three bisexual characters here. I'm predicting that the last two are Blackwall (heterosexual) and Solas (bisexual). But I'm still really hoping for Solas and Vivienne as both bisexual characters.

 

I'm almost positive that whoever the last two options are, they will be bisexual. I'm also almost positive that it's Solas and Vivienne. I really doubt they're going to have an unequal gender ratio of romances, and a 2/4/2 ratio of hetero/bi/****** makes sense for the sexualities in terms of allowing options, so that male and female Inquisitors have an equal number of options.

 

But yeah, this dragging out for dramatic effect is really getting irritating - at this point, it's more like stringing us along than it is building anticipation.



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doubt they're going to have an unequal gender ratio of romances

 

Didn't they say that equal numbers doesn't matter as long as they have at least 2 of each kind or something like that? 

 

I also think it'll be Solas and Vivienne, but that's because Solas was heavily hinted to be a LI and Blackwall was hinted not to be one.



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I'm almost positive that whoever the last two options are, they will be bisexual. I'm also almost positive that it's Solas and Vivienne. I really doubt they're going to have an unequal gender ratio of romances, and a 2/4/2 ratio of hetero/bi/****** makes sense for the sexualities in terms of allowing options, so that male and female Inquisitors have an equal number of options.

 

But yeah, this dragging out for dramatic effect is really getting irritating - at this point, it's more like stringing us along than it is building anticipation.

 

If Vivienne, Blackwall, or Solas are looking to be your favourite characters, the odds are better now that Varric's out of the running. Two in three chances are better than a 50% chance.

 

 

Didn't they say that equal numbers doesn't matter as long as they have at least 2 of each kind or something like that? 

See, that's what I was thinking. There would be at least two characters who would be open for a romantic relationship with your Inquisitor, regardless of what race or sex you've selected.

 

They said Iron Bull was originally going to be race-gated due to the sheer size of his animation rig. If John Epler hadn't put in the hard yards (on top of the hard yards he and the animation department were already putting in), likely the dwarven interests would be restricted to (so far!) just Dorian (if a gay male) or Cullen (if a straight female)... So, if that were still the case, either Solas or Blackwall is the unrestricted bisexual male character, and formerly being the only one.



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When was Blackwall hinted not to be a LI? o.o



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When was Blackwall hinted not to be a LI? o.o

Somewhere was a tweet about... well something like that, but it's just teasing really. But still a hint. 



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Somewhere was a tweet about... well something like that, but it's just teasing really. But still a hint. 

 

And what have they said in that tweet? Never saw that, that's why I'm asking.



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Lol, I don't even remember what exactly they said.  :lol: I'm terrible, I know. And I can't find it... oh well. I believe it was something like "He's about *this* and *this* and not about sex." Or something close enough. 

 

Ah, found it. Here it is:

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And yes, somewhere they also said something like "we’ve discussed the possibility and we really want to do it but we want to make sure we get it right, so we didn’t try to attempt it with inquisition” in response to someone asking if there would be asexual characters. 

I take that he's not an asexual and not a LI. 



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Lol, I don't even remember what exactly they said.  :lol: I'm terrible, I know. And I can't find it... oh well. I believe it was something like "He's about *this* and *this* and not about sex." Or something close enough. 

 

okay, thank you. I can't imagine him as a romance option either He seems like the kind of guy who's only interested in being a grey warden, altough it'd be rather interesting to confuse him with love matters. But I still hope for Vivienne and (inoffically confirmed) Solas. ^^ Blackwall is more like the daddy type who was married, then lost his wife and children to the dark spawn and breathed vengeance before he became a grey warden...well, just a feeling. 



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everytime i think iron bullXdwarf i dont know whether to facepalm or burst out laughing


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