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So who the heck are the race gated romances?


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Ok ok I get it I changed the racist word sheesh.  But tell me if you play a Dwarf and people start friend zoning you left and right you would not get resentful.


If a character isn't attracted to my PC because of being a human then why would I try to force them to love me? Out of all the romances only two are race gated for plot reasons. I just see a easy remedy to this by making a character they can romance. Same with the homosexual characters.
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I really don't want any of the gender gated romances to be gated since being gated by both gender AND race seems a bit much, a bi race restricted would work best, but having said that since we know about him more than most of the others (the other being Cass) I see Cullen being the most up for being gated as far as the confirmed romances. The devs said its for story reasons and seeing the facts from past games he cleary likes human females and female elves, but has reacted negatively to dwarfs and qunari and that might just be what they use to have him being gated. I think people want to say Sera is going to be gated cause she is the only one left that is another race, cause of her dislike of nobles (which is not race related that is status related) and the relationship between humans and elves (though we have seen many times that elves can fall in love with humans), Dorina could be race gated against Qunari cause of the war between them and Tevinter but we all know Dorian is not your typical mage, really any of them you can come up with a reason but no of us are going to agree on any one reason cause someone else could just as easily come up with a counter point. But I do agree I think Dwarfs and Qunari will get the shaft in romance options, while humans and elves will have the most options. 


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Sera) Hates nobles so may not romance Human

 

If she is gated I don't see this being the reason, since it has nothing to do with race and has more to do with status in the world, plus how would they pull of a mage? Yes they are still a noble but they were taken to the circle as a child and probably doesn't even know what its like to be a noble. 



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If she is gated I don't see this being the reason, since it has nothing to do with race and has more to do with status in the world 

Why not? Human nobles have oppressed her and her kind for centuries. And since the Human Inquisitor is from a noble family, there may be some resentment. 


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Sera could detest the notion of human romance on purely psychosocial merits. I'd be remarkably surprised if both the race-gated LIs ran on the basis of problematic physical size alone or something.



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I'm convinced that Cullen will be disinterested in dwarves or qunari. He has disparaged both in the past as heathens. 

 

I'm also thinking Sera might be race gated against humans. Humans are seen as an authority figure over elves, unfortunately. Sera hates authority figures. ;)

 

The PC Elf in Inquisition is Dalish, which means Cullen would also consider them a Heathen, for the record.



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Why not? Human nobles have oppressed her and her kind for centuries. And since the Human Inquisitor is from a noble family, there may be some resentment. 

 

Yeah but as SuperSayan87 said what about human mage?  They are hardly in a position of power over her.



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I am not completely sure Solas and Vivienne will be Bi. From the sounds of it, seemed a bit of an effort to make Iron Bull and Josie Bi. I hope they both are Bi but part of me wonders if that will be the case. But if they are Bi then they will be the gated ones.

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Has it ever been said she was oppressed by human nobles? If so I want to see the link cause I haven't read that anywhere.



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A few things:

 

  • Unless they reworked some of the characters/added romances since they were able to add more playable races, I doubt that humans will be gated against.
     
  • "We can't be together because you can't have the right kind of babies/we couldn't have babies at all" is a conversation that I hope never comes up in a BW relationship again. I would rather Solas be completely disinterested in romance than drag that **** back up.
     
  • My guess is that the remaining male LI will be bisexual and ungated, to mirror Josephine (since Iron Bull was initially race gated). I'm also guessing that Vivienne and Cullen will be race gated (humans only for her, and humans and elves for him). 

 

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Why not? Human nobles have oppressed her and her kind for centuries. And since the Human Inquisitor is from a noble family, there may be some resentment. 

As I said how are they going to pull off human mage then? Also as I have said many times if your going to race gate her against humans for being a noble than you might as well say she will be gated against a dalish elf cause she hates nature. Not liking a noble has nothing to do with race since not only humans can be nobles, that is a hate she has for that CLASS, a noble isn't a race. 



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As I said how are they going to pull of human mage then? Also as I have said many times if your going to race gate her against humans than you might as well say she will be gated against a dalish elf cause she hates nature. Not liking a noble has nothing to do with race since not only humans can be nobles, that is a hate she has for that CLASS, a noble isn't a race. 

Your family is still a noble one. If Varric can have resentment towards Qunari who had nothing to do with Kirkwall, like he does with Iron Bull, then Sera can have a fault in that she puts all those of noble birth in one basket as well. 


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Your family is still a noble one. If Varric can have resentment towards Qunari who had nothing to do with Kirkwall, like he does with Iron Bull, then Sera can have a fault in that she puts all those of noble birth in one basket as well. 

You really think Sera is going to be THAT close minded? She doesn't come across like that being a "wild card", plus if Fenris can love a mage hawke then I think Sera could fully well love a female human inquisitor since being a noble isn't something they can actually help or change. 



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You really think Sera is going to be THAT close minded? She doesn't come across like that being a "wild card", plus if Fenris can love a mage hawke then I think Sera could fully well love a female human inquisitor since being a noble isn't something they can actually help or change. 

 

You heard how she acts with Cole :P


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You really think Sera is going to be THAT close minded? She doesn't come across like that being a "wild card", plus if Fenris can love a mage hawke then I think Sera could fully well love a female human inquisitor since being a noble isn't something they can actually help or change. 

I see it as a distinct possibility, considering that anyone who is race-gated is going to be close-minded to an extent. And she has shown to being that close-minded about people before considering she considers her ally Cole an 'it'. 



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A noble isnt a race, but reading the backgrounds, all human PCs are Nobles. I like this better actually. Sera might have had several human LIs but none that were born Noble, which the human PC was. This lets us edge away from the racism angle of dating only certain races because you dont like that race.
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Yeah but as SuperSayan87 said what about human mage?  They are hardly in a position of power over her.

 

Hello? The Tevinter Imperium? Human mages that sunk Arlathan and enslaved the entire elven race for millennia, and still do in parts of the world? Tevinter, that still buys elven slaves by the boatload from many countries, thus encouraging the regression of elves' places in human societies instead of progression? Human mages on the street who can pass as non-mages and get treated fairly like Hawke, but elven mages passing as non-mages still live in systematic subjugation like Huon and Nyssa in the Kirkwall Alienage.



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Gut feeling tells me neither sera or dorian will be race gated (my gut feelings are usually 99% right) only gender gated romance option i see being gated is Cullen 



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You really think Sera is going to be THAT close minded? She doesn't come across like that being a "wild card", plus if Fenris can love a mage hawke then I think Sera could fully well love a female human inquisitor since being a noble isn't something they can actually help or change.


Ugh, the Fenris / Male Mage Hawke romance wasn't all happiness and rainbows. Fen was an a** that betrayed me twice -.-

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Hello? The Tevinter Imperium? Human mages that sunk Arlathan and enslaved the entire elven race for millennia, and still do in parts of the world? Tevinter, that still buys elven slaves by the boatload from many countries, thus encouraging the regression of elves' places in human societies instead of progression? Human mages on the street who can pass as non-mages and get treated fairly like Hawke, but elven mages passing as non-mages still live in systematic subjugation like Huon and Nyssa in the Kirkwall Alienage.

yet Fenris could still fall for a mage hawke? A tevinter magister and a circle mage are far from the same thing 


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A noble isnt a race, but reading the backgrounds, all human PCs are Nobles. I like this better actually. Sera might have had several human LIs but none that were born Noble, which the human PC was. This lets us edge away from the racism angle of dating only certain races because you dont like that race.

So she's a classist then.



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You really think Sera is going to be THAT close minded? She doesn't come across like that being a "wild card", plus if Fenris can love a mage hawke then I think Sera could fully well love a female human inquisitor since being a noble isn't something they can actually help or change. 

 

Well, being a "wild card" just means she's unpredictable (and given that we know little about her, she just may be that close-minded). Also, Fenris and Sera are different people. Fenris' romance arc took place over seven years. There may not be seven years for Sera to fall in love with a human PC if she is race-gated.



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Hello? The Tevinter Imperium? Human mages that sunk Arlathan and enslaved the entire elven race for millennia, and still do in parts of the world? Tevinter, that still buys elven slaves by the boatload from many countries, thus encouraging the regression of elves' places in human societies instead of progression? Human mages on the street who can pass as non-mages and get treated fairly like Hawke, but elven mages passing as non-mages still live in systematic subjugation like Huon and Nyssa in the Kirkwall Alienage.

 

Ok.... but the human mage Inquisitor will not be a Tevinter.  She is just another oppressed mage from Ostwik....
 


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Hello? The Tevinter Imperium? Human mages that sunk Arlathan and enslaved the entire elven race for millennia, and still do in parts of the world? Tevinter, that still buys elven slaves by the boatload from many countries, thus encouraging the regression of elves' places in human societies instead of progression? Human mages on the street who can pass as non-mages and get treated fairly like Hawke, but elven mages passing as non-mages still live in systematic subjugation like Huon and Nyssa in the Kirkwall Alienage.

 

I don't think Sera will compare every mage to Tevinter

 

 

yet Fenris could still fall for a mage hawke? A tevinter magister and a circle mage are far from the same thing 

 

I kinda felt that Fenris shouldn't have been able to romance mage Hawke



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i still think the human mage throws a wrench in many people's theories about Sera, whether they want to admit it or not