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So who the heck are the race gated romances?


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All the talk of Solas being race gated against dwarves makes me sad, Solas seems far more open minded than that. 


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I doubt this whole race gating thing will make things equal for races (e.g one person only romances humans/elves, another person only dwarves/qunari), it's bound to be uneven because Bioware are only doing this for story purposes. I'm sure they don't actually want to do it, it's just for certain characters it might not make sense. I reckon at least one or two races are gonna be disadvantaged by this whole thing unfortunately!

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All the talk of Solas being race gated against dwarves makes me sad, Solas seems far more open minded than that. 

 

Being open minded doesn't mean that you are romantically attracted to everything that moves.



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Didn't I hear before that there would be at least two characters your Inquisitor could engage in a romance with, regardless of the sex and race you picked for them?

 

Iron Bull was originally race-gated, apparently towards dwarves because of just how huge his rig is and the difficulty it brought with animating him. If Epler hadn't put in the extra hard yards, male dwarven Inquisitors players would imagine as gay would be left with just Dorian.

 

Now, this is just what I'm predicting... I highly doubt there would be another gay male companion (I won't complain if there is, though), so I'm guessing that one of the last LI is another un-race-gated bisexual male (out of Solas or Blackwall). The other companion left to be revealed would be race-gated, and one of the previous four out of Dorian, Sera, Cassandra, and Cullen, would be race-gated as well.



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I have some ideas. Cullen would make the most sense I suppose as shown above.



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See, I can 100% see Solas only being down for Elves. Not humans or dwarves or qunari.  Everyone seems to think he'll be anti-dwarf lovin.... but I honestly can't see any elf really being OKAY with boning anyone who isn't themselves an elf, for the very fundamental reason that elf/non-elf babies either don't exist, or take on racial properties of the non-elf partner.

 

City Elves are less hung up on it then Dalish are, but even they would struggle with it a bit. Anyone would.


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Solas is not Dalish.


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See, I can 100% see Solas only being down for Elves. Not humans or dwarves or qunari. For one single reason. He's dalish. Everyone seems to think he'll be anti-dwarf lovin.... and I honestly can't see any Dalish really being OKAY with boning anyone who isn't themselves an elf, for the very fundamental reason that elf/non-elf babies either don't exist, or take on racial properties of the non-elf partner.
 
Reguardless of how little he may follow the Dalish' rules, I can honestly see that being a big thing for him. A real full-stop kinda deal. Heck, even Merrill has issues with it. A Dalish elf is about their elven heritage. Dating outside their race, especially humans is a huge huge no-no. It would take a WHOLE LOT for a Dalish elf to be down with bumping uglies with a Human.
 
City Elves are less hung up on it, but even they struggle with it a bit. Anyone would.


Solas isn't Dalish. He grew up in a town. His background is on the Dragon Age home page.

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And that's what I get for trying to avoid some spoilers :) I could have sworn...

 

Eh either way, I can still see it being a hangup for him. Honestly if I was an elf, It would be an issue for me.

 

But, I've edited my post to reflect what I meant, either way :)



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And that's what I get for trying to avoid some spoilers :) I could have sworn...

Eh either way, I can still see it being a hangup for him. Honestly if I was an elf, It would be an issue for me.


Actually Solas doesn't want to be seen as just an Elf, so him being elf only seems unlikely

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I'm still convinced that Sera will be race gated.



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Being open minded doesn't mean that you are romantically attracted to everything that moves.

True, but it's all we really have to go on in terms of speculation - his being open-minded, and his not wanting to be seen as 'just an elf.' Could he have preference anyway? Sure. But it seems a lot less likely for him than the others:

 

Cullen has shown distaste for dwarves/qunari in the past. Could he get over it? Sure. Enough to where he'd be sexually/romantically attracted to one? Perhaps not.

 

Vivienne could be race-gated for reasons of ambition. Or she could just be picky - she likes what she likes and doesn't what she doesn't and she doesn't have to explain herself to you, darling.  :P

 

Sera is a wildcard in every sense. She's got some potentially narrow (if common) views on the Fade and spirits and such. She could have narrow views on other things as well. Hard to say.

 

Dorian is from a country at war with Qunari. Again, he could be able to see past that in liking or respecting a person, but enough to be attracted to one? If all he's seen up until now is violent aggressors who sew their mages' mouths shut?

 

I doubt Blackwall is an LI (but who knows?) but as a Warden i imagine he'd have to be pretty open-minded too. We know relatively little about him, however.

 

And to those people still insisting Solas might not be a romance (and mind you, I won't discount the possibility until we get official confirmation, but I feel the need to put this somewhere and this thread is as good a place as any): We do have some really strong evidence. There's the VA tweets in which Gareth David Lloyd responded to questions specifically asking if Solas is romanceable: "You will not be disappointed," and "I don't know what I can say. Enjoy." Also, and I haven't seen this mentioned outside the Solas thread, but in the now infamous Swedish article, Solas is specifically mentioned as an example in a response to a question regarding how the romances will work in regards to approval. This was confirmed by a Swedish-speaking person who translated it for us.


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If race gating is supposed to be based on personality, then Vivienne being race gated against elves and qunari makes the most sense to me.  Both races are social pariahs, especially in Orlais, and I don't see her being willing to enter into a relationship that might lower public perception of her.  Humans are generally neutral towards dwarves, so I don't see that being an issue.

 

Obviously this is based on the assumption that Vivienne is an LI, but really, two males as the final LIs seems kind of ridiculous.

 

The second option is a bit trickier because we're dealing with LIs who have known gender preferences... if I had to guess, I'd say that Sera is race gated against the human noble.  Every blurb I've read about her mentions some issue with nobles, and so the human PC's background may be a turn off for her.  I'm nowhere near as certain about this as I am with Vivienne, however...

 

Then again, Cass is human, so her being race gated against elves isn't really a stretch...



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Of the 6 we already know I would say Sera could be likely to be gated toward elves only, I get a hate all vibe from her. She kind of reminds me of Fiona. Cullen I don't think would be race gated, as he's already shown attraction to an elf and human, his mentions of qunari and dwarf are too vague to be certain right now. We already know IB and Josephine aren't gated.

If they are going for one from each male/female romance then I would bet on Dorian, possibly because of the Tevinter/Qunari conflict.  I don't know enough about Cassandra besides her maybe being gated due to religious reason but I am betting Dorian's would be more prevalent.



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All the talk of Solas being race gated against dwarves makes me sad, Solas seems far more open minded than that. 

 

Yeah agreed, don't think Solas would be turned off by dwarfs because they can't enter the Fade like other races.

 

My guess would be Vivienne political reasons gated against all non-human races and Cullen I guess. Not sure about Cass, maybe against qunari.


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Only ones I can think of that would make sense is Cullen (has shown a dislike in dwarfs and qunari), Vivienne (her attitude and background shows she may not be interested in anyone but humans) and Solas (he may not be into dwarfs since they can't dream), some say Dorian might be against Qunari cause of the war between them and Tevinter. 

 

Cullen and Vivienne have good taste then.


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I'm still convinced that Sera will be race gated.

 

I doubt she'll be race gated because she is a lesbian. A straight or a homosexual character who is race gated *might* be too restrictive, and you might only get a small slice of the fanbase who ever got to see their content. My guess is that the race gated characters will be bisexual. On that note, my bet would be Vivienne and Solas.

 

Cullen makes a lot of sense to be race gated. I just wonder if he would be however, since I believe he's already been confirmed as straight.



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I doubt she'll be race gated because she is a lesbian. A straight or a homosexual character who is race gated *might* be too restrictive, and you might only get a small slice of the fanbase who ever got to see their content. My guess is that the race gated characters will be bisexual. On that note, my bet would be Vivienne and Solas.

 

Cullen makes a lot of sense to be race gated. I just wonder if he would be however, since I believe he's already been confirmed as straight.

 

But hasn't David Gaider said something like "weird thing for me to say since it isn't true" in answer of speculations about the remaining LI's being the gated ones?



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My theory is that the race gated characters will only restrict ONE race from romancing him/her. It would just unbalance things way too much if 1/4 of the romances were race-gated to just one race (ie Vivienne only being able to romance humans and JUST humans, instead of maybe....humans, elves, qunari, but not dwarves.). 



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But hasn't David Gaider said something like "weird thing for me to say since it isn't true" in answer of speculations about the remaining LI's being the gated ones?

why would he confirm its true before they even announce or confirm it? Don't believe everything Bioware tells you



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My guess would be Cullen and Vivienne.

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There's no information that the last 2 are gated. Some people don't want to believe that an already confirmed LI is race gated. There could be a reason for anyone being race gated. I don't like it when people falsely say I've said something when I haven't. So why are people making more of what DG said? If he didn't say something why wouldn't he contradict it? I didn't read it as him going oooohhh let's lie to the fan base. If he didn't say something, then he didn't.

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My question is, are they going to be cowardly about this and make it so that the PC of the slighted race(s) magically cannot flirt with the race gated LIs, or will they be able to flirt so that players can confront the ensuing awkward conversation head-on and be shot down.

 

The chances of this going over well are..... not very good, especially if the race-gated LI is straight or gay.



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There's no information that the last 2 are gated. Some people don't want to believe that an already confirmed LI is race gated. There could be a reason for anyone being race gated. I don't like it when people falsely say I've said something when I haven't. So why are people making more of what DG said? If he didn't say something why wouldn't he contradict it? I didn't read it as him going oooohhh let's lie to the fan base. If he didn't say something, then he didn't.

you've not dealt with many developers have you? They are very notorious for saying one thing and doing the complete obvious, ESPECIALLY Bioware



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you've not dealt with many developers have you? They are very notorious for saying one thing and doing the complete obvious, ESPECIALLY Bioware

 

People thought Gaider or any other dev had said the remaining options are the gated ones, and Gaider answered to them "weird thing for me to say since it isn't true". It sounds as if it's noch true, that the last LI's are race gated so it'd be weird for him to claim something like this.