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Cadash, the lyrium dealer?


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After rewatching some of the Wire (the greatest and most authentic television show in history), I thought it'd be an interesting spin to inject some of that into the Dragon Age setting. As we know lyrium is an invaluable commodity to top side Thedas. This particular installment of the series, more than any other, has the potential to illustrate the effect the illicit lyrium trade has on Thedas. Effects that are felt by politicians in the upper echelons of society like First Enchanters and Knight Vigilants all the way down to the lowliest dwarves of the Minning Caste and everyone in between. An opportunity that if missed would be an immense waste of story telling potential.

 

Here's to hoping I can model my Cadash Inquisitor after Stringer Bell.



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i don't think it's a game material. the Wire is amazing and it feels real, much due to David Simon (former Sun journalist) and Ed Burns (homocide/narcotics detective) backgrounds. fantasy setting especially with over-the-top writing (which fits games... kind of) would only ridicule the drug trade problem. but hey, that's just my opinion.

 

anyway... Omar Little is way more fun



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i don't think it's a game material. the Wire is amazing and it feels real, much due to David Simon (former Sun journalist) and Ed Burns (homocide/narcotics detective) backgrounds. fantasy setting especially with over-the-top writing (which fits games... kind of) would only ridicule the drug trade problem. but hey, that's just my opinion.

 

anyway... Omar Little is way more fun

 

I can understand where you're coming from. It's a subject that merits more than the half-assed approach. But shouldn't and doesn't this medium strive and aspire to be more than what it currently is? What's the point of a developer being hyper-progressive if they're unwilling to ask society the tough questions? I would think that the biggest issue in taking inspiration from the Wire and similar sources would be the lack of resonation with the fan base. Even then, certain themes and messages should be accessible to people of all demographics.

 

And Omar is overrated. But I get the appeal.


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talking about real-life social problems isn't progressive when you sprinkle it with supernatural, it's not real-life problem anymore, just a tale with good background. and DA has it already, using the lyrium - substance found only deep underground, approved by political and religious organisations, causing addiction and enhancing user abilities. analogy is there and i think that's sufficient. not too subtle to overlook but transparent enough to add a bit flavour to the story without being too heavy on the topic.

 

asking though questions i have no problem with, games are unique synergy of science and art, and addressing serious issues always was art's role. i just imagine On the Waterfront with CGI, hot sex scenes, car chases and explosions out the ass, that just doesn't sit with me well. maybe i'm just not that progressive or maybe i'm just eternal pessimist.

then again there's a reason why only two people are talking in this topic and why DA is a triple A title, not an experimental indie game.

 

i'm more than sure there will be another lyrium addiction/smuggling quest line. but i don't think we will be allowed to become a criminal master-mind as Stringer was.



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And of course Pusherman starts when i enter the thread...



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I think lyrium control is more to keep it away from apostates and malificars. as well to keep the circle from be coming ecconomicly indepentdent from the chantry. the templar "drug problem" is a minor thing becuse its just templars.

 

i do not think that lyrium is a big soical problem or that Joe Q. Ferelden could even really use it for anything with out training. I see it more like wepons smuggling then drug running. the problem is the few people that know how to use it could be a templar looking to get past an itch or could be an abomnation looking to blow up a chantry.



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Well, there's a lot of reasons lyrium is controlled.

I would think that the Templar issue ranked up there pretty high in the mind of the Chantry. Remember, every Templar is addicted to the stuff, even the upstanding ones like Evangeline and presumably Cullen. Even if a Templar breaks their addiction to the stuff, without constant lyrium, their Templar powers will eventually fade.

If anything, the Mage rebellions and Orlais civil war would have made the lyrium issue even worse. The Blight almost certainly interfered with production, and it's possible that if Harrowmont rules Orzammar that production has declined even further. On top of that, it's the Chantry that controls the stuff, not the Templar, so it's likely they axed the stuff as soon as Lambert decided to annul the Nevarran Accords.

And, of course, then the Templars turn to something even worse--Red Lyrium--like good little drug addicts.

Oh crap, what if Cullen is the one that told the Templars about Red Lyrium in the first place?

Let's not forget that copious amounts of lyrium (and possibly, blood) can be used to physically enter the Fade, which is what started the Blight in the first place. The ritual that the magisters used called for something like a third of the lyrium in the Tevinter empire--which was much larger than it is today, run by mages (so they had some encouragement to have lots of lyrium, and was supplied by the height of the dwarven empire--not just two cities. Lots of lyrium.