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How long have they been telling people about gated romances?


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#151
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If their prejudices are that bad then they will border on xenophobia not just disinterest, then they very well may give into them. As many posters have brought up, they're trying to make richer characters by giving them back round information to grant them more human-like qualities. They had already had people attempt to kill you over using apostate magic after you rescued them ala rescuing the Tower of Mages if you're using non-sanctioned magic in front of Wynne. There's also several portions in the first game that were cut from the original where you can turn Morrigan over at your leisure if you consider apostates that dangerous. The dwarves had to have their dirty laundry pretty much dragged through the streets in DA:O if you weren't a dwarf before they'd listen to anything you had to say. You are even allowed to betray the Dalish elves to the werewolves if you so desire and the game itself plays on your sensibilities even more if you're a human PC because there are no elven or dwarf werewolves.
 
In DAII, the Dalish elves also refuse to assist Hawke in various situations until you bring Merrill along so there's definitely extreme tensions among the species already present in the world to the point of complete mistrust. 
 
If the characters you're dealing with are that bad then you may have a situation like that on your hands. So it doesn't just become a question of race-gating at that point, it becomes a question of how far are they taking their hostilities towards other races, will they simply be sexual preference or will they be game changing enough to warrant a betrayal and slaying a now no longer companion?


You seem to forget that mages aren't a race. One of the points you bring up was cut content, which is ultimately meaningless. As far as we know, there isn't any class gating. I don't know what you're talking about with the Dalish in DA2, since I never had much trouble with them even if I didn't have Merrill with me. Your point about the dwarves is so ambiguous I'm not even going to address it. As for the Elf/Werewolf decision in DAO, your character could have had any number of reasons for why they did what they did.

There may be racism in the world, but it doesn't mean that you can't make the companions your friend if you try hard enough. It has always been that way in Dragon age. If you're willing to put in the effort, you can have a decent friendship even if you and the companion don't always agree. I can't recall any Bioware companion who will just automatically betray you based on race. If they turn on you, it's because of your own actions or lack thereof. You seem to be dead-set on dodging the issue here.
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 ultimately meaningless. 

This whole thread is meaningless, its just him randomly ranting about everything 



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Don't know if that was her name exactly but yes she was a dalish elf who had become a werewolf 

I didn't feel like looking it up.... blocked on my work comp and my phone was freezing on the wiki page app.....



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This whole thread is meaningless, its just him randomly ranting about everything


Agreed. This thread derailed a couple pages ago, when he started trying to pull on random pieces of info to back up his failing assertions.
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Yep, him trying to pull an argument about The Darkness and that girls relationship. I don't really care about the Darkness, when I played that game, I ended up hating the Darkness and avoid any more comics or references of him. Not like I followed him much anyways.

 

I only was bringing up the scene in effect, not the two characters but keeps intentionally going back to those two characters specifically, not the one scene that I only care about. It didn't have to be The Darkness and her, in relation it could be Inquisitor came in and sat beside his/her LI together. That was my only point. Anything else is bleh on it. The idea of relationship having more meaning basically.


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I think its been established that OP either ignores points or they just go over his head 



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Yep, him trying to pull an argument about The Darkness and that girls relationship. I don't really care about the Darkness, when I played that game, I ended up hating the Darkness and avoid any more comics or references of him. Not like I followed him much anyways.

 

I only was bringing up the scene in effect, not the two characters but keeps intentionally going back to those two characters specifically, not the one scene that I only care about. It didn't have to be The Darkness and her, in relation it could be Inquisitor came in and sat beside his/her LI together. That was my only point. Anything else is bleh on it. The idea of relationship having more meaning basically.

 

I'm not missing your point in this, I do like that the relationships should have more meaning. They shouldn't be "gift, gift, gift and done" The larger picture here is that this is an RPG and not a romantic comedy, its not meant to be wrapped up in an hour and have everything in pretty little bows. The relationship between those two characters is founded in years and years of back story. That's why there's so much meaning involved, the eight characters we're currently receiving are all wild cards to the universe and are complete strangers to our Inquisitor as far as we know. Very few characters got ties to the main characters in previous DA games, off the top of my head I have one, Merrill whom is in both games and has ties to you if you play a Dalish Elf protagonist. 

 

They also couldn't attempt race gating in DAII because we were only allowed one race of PC to choose from. 

 

This is part of what made ME such a successful universe and gaming series, instead of jumping from protagonist to protagonist they placed all the effort into making a singular hero through the saga, so there was time to build the intimacy with your love interests. Where as with this new game, there are no repeat love interests, there is no repeat character and there is no emotional connection to tug on your heart strings from previous installments. 

 

Even with the current estimate of 200+ hours of game play (Not certain if this is based on a single play or multiple) for a hardened completionist, I don't think there's going to be enough individual attention with each love interest to gain that kind of intimacy.



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I am not gonna bother and read all of this cause its just going to be pointless ranting again over an optional part of a game that hasn't even been released yet. For all this moaning and groaning your doing I don't see you cancelling your pre-order and getting your money back since your obviously upset over 1 aspect of the game but yet you've went on a rant about parts of the past games that shouldn't even matter at this point. This thread is dead will a mod please put it out of its misery. 



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Mass Effect is getting another, new protagonist, will be at the time of ME1 and go from there. Where it leads unsure.

 

I have no issues leaving Warden finished in Awakening, and love Hawke. Inquisitor being separate from them two but run into them is good.  However, there are threads on those subjects already. :)

 

Race gating wasn't in recent till DA:I, which I am glad is back, makes LI's more people like instead of just being a slave to our whims. Complaining about race-gating to me is pointless however. I don't stress over the game except with only one issue.

 

The only problem I have with Inquisition is.....ITS NOT OUT YET!!!   :(   WAAAAH!!!  ^_^  :P          :ph34r:   creeps away......I didn't do it....


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It makes sense to me but makes them kind of prejudiced.

Leliana/Dwarf!



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Solas is confirmed as only being available to female elves and Mark Darrah says it makes "SUPER STORY SENSE" so i'm assuming there must be a really good reason for him not to like other races. Sounds like he's going to be an elven supremacist lol