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[Cespar]

Veeia will have her own opinions on this, but I thought it was a bit strange at first because I couldn't tell if he liked Cadash as she was or if he was in love with the Inquisitor as an idealized symbol. If you keep in mind that he's written for all the races -- humans, elves, qunari, and dwarves, then you will become more understanding of his limitations. He did acknowledge the Carta background and it was the perfect opportunity for him to come clean about his lie, but at least Cadash can choose to be hurt over his lying more than his past when it comes to light. You know?

 

What tickles me is that he keeps calling her "Lady Cadash." I imagine that's exciting for a gal that's been treated as a thug from the get-go. Other than that, I don't recall any more dwarf specific conversations.

 

Oh, and another interesting thing about Blackwall is that you can tell him you never loved him while in prison. And if he's given a chance to stay with the Inquisition at the judging, he will say he doesn't believe that she doesn't love him. You can practically see his heart being ripped bare right there for all to see. Touuuuuuugh scene. Even to the end, he still fights for it.

Thank you! I haven't done Blackwall's personal quest, so I don't know  about the prison scene. I was going to look up his romance scene after I finished his personal quest.   

[Tishina]

I thought the same thing when I saw mine with Iron Bull if it wasn't the causal wear I really wouldn't be bugged by it tbh. As for the bolded where it is where I can I find it because that is something I very much want and need for my lovely dwarfs

*snicker* I hadn't seen this yet. I hope they rush something that lets us at least wear armor in Skyhold. I'm not sure who the designer was for the female dwarves, but man did he or she have some weird ideas...

[Gilsa]

I thought the same thing when I saw mine with Iron Bull if it wasn't the causal wear I really wouldn't be bugged by it tbh. As for the bolded where it is where I can I find it because that is something I very much want and need for my lovely dwarfs

 

Hissing Waste, eastern-most tomb. Mountain Fortress Camp is the closest location to it.

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[vertigomez]

How's the Cadash and Blackwall relationship? I don't think Dorian even mention anything about my race in the romance. I know Cassandra and Sera mentions your race in the romance.

Cass does? What does she say?

[Gilsa]

Thank you! I haven't done Blackwall's personal quest, so I don't know  about the prison scene. I was going to look up his romance scene after I finished his personal quest.   

 

@$%! I am so sorry. I really should have put that in spoiler tags. I just edited my post. I am very sorry. =/

[HuldraDancer]

Hissing Waste, eastern-most tomb. Mountain Fortress Camp is the closest location to it.

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Awesome! Thank you! Legion of the Dead armor here I come

[veeia]

BW romance thoughs: 

 

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I do think that, pre-revelation, a lot of the Blackwall/Cadash relationship is even more painful/meaningful than him with any other Quizzie, because she's a symbol of what he wants to be: the criminal turned hero, but as he is with all Quizzies, he's too afraid to talk about it. I do think it makes sense even for Cadash, because Blackwall's biggest lie is to himself, it doesn't matter how much of a mirror for him she can be, he doesn't see it. I can't imagine that scene where he talks about Cadash's criminal background playing out in any other way. 

 

I also think that for any Quizzie, Blackwall idealizes them, and that's a problem, but post-revelation, one that can work out in interesting ways. I think BW's romance, post revelation, could use some more scenes, so there's probably a weird sense of a missing conversation for all of them. I think you can headcanon it in pretty easily, or at least I did.

 

Blackwall also has this issue where he thinks Cadash is in love with the idealized version of himself: the White Knight, the Stoic Hero, etc, and that's why he won't tell her, and why he expects her to dump him. But I don't think it feels wrong for Cadash, because again, it's not about her. It's about him. He doesn't understand why she could possibly love him outside of that. 

 

The only awkward bit for me was that Hella used Leli's shady way to get Blackwall out of jail, and he sort of moaned about it being one more thing to regret, turning her into a criminal and shew as like "uh hello, I already was???", but it still made sense in the sense, he was sad that the Inquisition did something shady to save him, and he's so obsessed with honorable/criminal dichotomies he couldn't think about her or the organization as both.

 

..damn I really wish there was more post-reveal content

 

[DalishRanger]

Cass does? What does she say?

 

Off the top of my head, I know she mentions it here. (NSFW grove scene) I think there were one or two other points, but would depend on what you say in response to her stuff. The only distinct dwarf comments I clearly recall her saying are that part from the grove and the, "Are all dwarves such comedians? Or just you and Varric?" which doesn't have to happen during the romance.

 

On another note, I haven't really touched The Hissing Wastes yet, even though I'm on my 3/4 runs (alternating elf and human plays). I'm kind of wanting to save it for my Dorn replay, which I might actually do before I finish my elf and human, haha. Thanks for sharing the Legion schematics location!

[vertigomez]

^Sweet! I love those little acknowledgments, like Alistair's "I was wondering if I was too tall", or Fenris and Merrill commenting on Hawke's human-ness. It makes a big difference!

[Tishina]

^Sweet! I love those little acknowledgments, like Alistair's "I was wondering if I was too tall", or Fenris and Merrill commenting on Hawke's human-ness. It makes a big difference!

I never got that line from Alistair with one of my dwarves. I wonder if my game was glitched...

[vertigomez]

I never got that line from Alistair with one of my dwarves. I wonder if my game was glitched...

You have to be the one to ask him to the tent. If he asks you, it never shows up.

eta: Here's the line. If you ask him if he minds that you're a dwarf, he'll say, "Of course not. Don't be ridiculous. If anything, I was wondering if I was too tall."

[Cespar]

Cass does? What does she say?

Something during that sex scene. She just wonder what would people think of her with a dwarf madmen. Something along those lines.   

[Tishina]

You have to be the one to ask him to the tent. If he asks you, it never shows up.

eta: Here's the line. If you ask him if he minds that you're a dwarf, he'll say, "Of course not. Don't be ridiculous. If anything, I was wondering if I was too tall."

OK, now I have to pull up one of my old saves and try that. I usually let him be the one to ask (just felt better to let him decide when he was ready ).

[vertigomez]

OK, now I have to pull up one of my old saves and try that. I usually let him be the one to ask (just felt better to let him decide when he was ready ).

It's toooughh because him asking you to the tent is so adorable and earnest and ugh, I love it, so I hate to miss it. But that line is great and shows that dwarven ladies weren't just an afterthought in the Alistair romance.

Another reason I like that line is because for once you have a HUMAN worried that they're "weird", rather than everyone ragging on the dwarf for being short. lol

Something during that sex scene. She just wonder what would people think of her with a dwarf madmen. Something along those lines.

Oh, I remember that! The little scoff she gives as she says "dwarven madman"...

[Gilsa]

Re: The Alistair tent scene with a dwarf

 

- IF you proposition Alistair first, you will later get the "I was worried I was too tall for you" line.

- IF you let Alistair approach you first, you will get the "especially because of that" line.

 

Don't feel bad. It puzzled me why I was getting different lines on different playthroughs until I figured out it was tied to who did the propositioning first.

[Tishina]

It's toooughh because him asking you to the tent is so adorable and earnest and ugh, I love it, so I hate to miss it. But that line is great and shows that dwarven ladies weren't just an afterthought in the Alistair romance.

Another reason I like that line is because for once you have a HUMAN worried that they're "weird", rather than everyone ragging on the dwarf for being short. lol
 

Huh, I just went back to a scene before meeting his sister, and I tried several variations of inviting him to the tent and didn't get that line. I wonder if a mod I'm using removed it. Bleh...

[Tishina]

Re: The Alistair tent scene with a dwarf

 

- IF you proposition Alistair first, you will later get the "I was worried I was too tall for you" line.

- IF you let Alistair approach you first, you will get the "especially because of that" line.

 

Don't feel bad. It puzzled me why I was getting different lines on different playthroughs until I figured out it was tied to who did the propositioning first.

Oh, how much later? I only played through scene inviting him back to the tent.

[Gilsa]

IIRC, it doesn't happen during the tent cutscenes. It happens in a separate conversation when he hits "love." (Pretty sure. Could be misremembering.)

[Tishina]

IIRC, it doesn't happen during the tent cutscenes. It happens in a separate conversation when he hits "love." (Pretty sure. Could be misremembering.)

Ah, not sure I'm patient enough to try to unearth that right now. I'll have to remember it for later, though, thanks!

[vertigomez]

Ahh, my apologies! I could've sworn it was right after the tent scene, but it's been years at this point since I've romanced Alistair so my memory is very suspect. I just remember the dorf line with perfect clarity because... dorfs.

[DalishRanger]

I really need to start pulling myself away from Inquisition so I can get back to that Dorn/Cass fan art comic I've been working on intermittently for the past week.

[Sir Froggie]

If I make the Legion armor can it be upgraded? I haven't made any of the faction armors because i wasn't sure.

[Grieving Natashina]

Hello fellow dwarf fans! I haven't been on here in ages so just wanted to poke in and say something I've noticed kind of odd about the female dwarfs that may have been brought up already so I apologize if it has been, do the female dwarf's breasts look a bit triangle to anyone else while in the casual wear for sky hold? Odd thing to bring up but its kind of distracting to me looks like she's wearing a mini Madonna cone bra.

Did someone say cone boobs?

 

And now, another edition of...SKYHOLD PJ DWARVEN BREAST CAM!  We get a glimpse into what the Bull was truly thinking about.

 

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[vertigomez]

I really need to start pulling myself away from Inquisition so I can get back to that Dorn/Cass fan art comic I've been working on intermittently for the past week.

*flails* I can't wait!

Did someone say cone boobs?
 
And now, another edition of...SKYHOLD PJ DWARVEN BREAST CAM!  We get a glimpse into what the Bull was truly thinking about.
 

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Lord have mercy, is it 1955?

[Tishina]

*flails* I can't wait!


Lord have mercy, is it 1955?

Hey, Marilyn Monroe and women with curves, why complain!