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[Tishina]

Despair not, duster! I did unearth this rare gem many years ago on the old forums prior to DAO's release and took a screenshot . (I'm not able to find the original thread anymore.) Either this prophecy will come to pass or it's going to be one of those things he regrets saying in the first place. Still awesome to see such a declaration put out like that in the first place, y'know? SUCH CONVICTION.

 

Well, nice to know he said it, but you know, that's dated 5 1/2 years ago, and they passed two very obvious ones for this game, so unless by some miracle they devote game dev time in a DLC to add one for DAI, it'll be at least 2 to 3 more years at a guess before there's a chance of it.

 

I'm having a very pessimistic moment on that front; just seems safer not to expect any attention this direction, sigh.

[Tishina]

Hi everyone!

Yesterday i've started my new playthrough (this time on nightmare), he is a snarky type and prefers more peaceful solutions giving the chance.

 

 

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Very good looking. He has a particularly nice smile in that first photo.

[Vaseldwa]

Happy New year Salrokas! 

[Tishina]

Happy New year Salrokas! 

Hey, welcome back! And Happy New Year! (It's about 20 minutes early for me )

[Nemesis788450]

Hi everyone!

Yesterday i've started my new playthrough (this time on nightmare), he is a snarky type and prefers more peaceful solutions giving the chance.

 

dwarves and peacful solutions...in what world?

[Kipp-vas-Xerinae]

Very good looking. He has a particularly nice smile in that first photo.

Thank you

 

dwarves and peacful solutions...in what world?

 

In my world But seriously, why the fact that he is a dwarf should automatically means that he is bloodthirsty killing machine?

[Andraste_Reborn]

Something that made me happy: hearing the dwarves at the Winter Palace talk about the statue of my noble dwarf Warden. (Apparently it's a little small, but she really wouldn't have minded if Harrowmont skimped on the costs. There are better things he could spend the money on.) I've got seven Wardens but she's still my favourite, so it's nice that people remember her sacrifice.

[Tishina]

Something that made me happy: hearing the dwarves at the Winter Palace talk about the statue of my noble dwarf Warden. (Apparently it's a little small, but she really wouldn't have minded if Harrowmont skimped on the costs. There are better things he could spend the money on.) I've got seven Wardens but she's still my favourite, so it's nice that people remember her sacrifice.

It was definitely a nice way for us to find out more about what happened with them (and a relief to find out that the paragon status for dwarves wasn't retconned like a lot of other things from the DAO ending.) The writers included the chance to find out a lot more information about dwarven wardens than most of the other races (city elves and females who became Alistair's mistress in particular are pretty much limited to a generic conversation with Leliana and the one letter from the warden, I think). We even find out Bhelen married our sister in a Brosca/King Bhelen WS. The only Wardens you find out as much or more about are those still in romances with Leliana, Morrigan, or Warden Alistair. I know they wanted to spread the background stuff through the game instead of separate origins, but compared to the amount of background we got in DAO, there's almost nothing for our Inquisitors.

 

If it weren't for the Solas content, I would be strongly questioning why an elf had to be Dalish, but I really hope we get to play a CE again in the future. And maybe actually spend time in Orzammar or Kal Sharok as a dwarf.

[Gilsa]

@Tishina -- No worries. I watched two games and one expansion go by without anything happening for the dwarves so I definitely feel what you're saying. The thing that I drew the most from that DG initial post was the healthy attitude towards a dwarf romance, which is important when it comes from the head writer. A lot of good strides have been made over the years -- romances are inclusive for all players and dwarven NPCs have been gaining in popularity. They've run with the romance novel theme for Varric when that was borne of disappointment that he wasn't a romance option in DA2. No other character has come close to sharing Varric's chest hair. It's like they've left that perk especially for him. It sounds like there's more to explore on the dwarven side of things still, especially with their lack of magic. A dwarf companion that brings insight into that (much like Dorian and the Tevinters) might be a better time for a romance to happen. I don't know. I do hear what you're saying.

[Tishina]

@Tishina -- No worries. I watched two games and one expansion go by without anything happening for the dwarves so I definitely feel what you're saying. The thing that I drew the most from that DG initial post was the healthy attitude towards a dwarf romance, which is important when it comes from the head writer. A lot of good strides have been made over the years -- romances are inclusive for all players and dwarven NPCs have been gaining in popularity. They've run with the romance novel theme for Varric when that was borne of disappointment that he wasn't a romance option in DA2. No other character has come close to sharing Varric's chest hair. It's like they've left that perk especially for him. It sounds like there's more to explore on the dwarven side of things still, especially with their lack of magic. A dwarf companion that brings insight into that (much like Dorian and the Tevinters) might be a better time for a romance to happen. I don't know. I do hear what you're saying.

I'd like to hope so, but I've ended up mostly feeling like they're still using dwarves for slapstick, sigh. I honestly don't know that I've liked anything they've done with female dwarves in DAI either. Except Harding. I haven't seen enough of Dagna (not even sure you can have more than a couple of brief conversations with her) to really have an opinion, I admit.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Something that made me happy: hearing the dwarves at the Winter Palace talk about the statue of my noble dwarf Warden. (Apparently it's a little small, but she really wouldn't have minded if Harrowmont skimped on the costs. There are better things he could spend the money on.) I've got seven Wardens but she's still my favourite, so it's nice that people remember her sacrifice.

ROFL Harrowmont is more focused on lining his own pockets than actually feeding his people. That's why there are riots if he's in charge yet Bhelen manages to not have riots and tries to feed his people. Bhelen also gives a Dwarven Warden a great statue whereas Harrowmont builds a cheap one. Bhelen also stops Branka from experimenting on casteless while Harrowmont doesn't care about casteless. Bhelen also never gives up the search for a Dwarven Warden while Harrowmont just gives up.

 

Face it, the devs have short of outright declared Harrowmont to be the wrong choice. Bhelen is pretty much better in practically every way and the devs are pretty much confirming it. There is literally no area that Harrowmont does better than Bhelen.

[Cypher0020]

I just put my F!Brosca file into the Keep. BroscaxZevran for life! The original!

 

 

Thinking how will an archer quizzy work.....I mean.... there's Varric..... he has Bianca.... my archer cannot compare to the awesomeness

[Shark17676]

ROFL Harrowmont is more focused on lining his own pockets than actually feeding his people. That's why there are riots if he's in charge yet Bhelen manages to not have riots and tries to feed his people. Bhelen also gives a Dwarven Warden a great statue whereas Harrowmont builds a cheap one. Bhelen also stops Branka from experimenting on casteless while Harrowmont doesn't care about casteless. Bhelen also never gives up the search for a Dwarven Warden while Harrowmont just gives up.

 

Face it, the devs have short of outright declared Harrowmont to be the wrong choice. Bhelen is pretty much better in practically every way and the devs are pretty much confirming it. There is literally no area that Harrowmont does better than Bhelen.

 

I tend to agree.  With the way things play out, putting Bhelen on the throne over Harrowmont seems to be as close to a "correct" choice as one can get in this series.  Although a total bastard, Bhelen is upfront about it and actually gets stuff done for the good of his people.  Harrowmont was nothing but a politician through and through -- all smiles and baby-kissing to mask the greed and corruption beneath.

[Cypher0020]

This. My fav Origins was the commoner, so Behlen is the progessive, she's been hoping for

 

More than that, Rica. I love her character, Behlen may be an arse, but he's an arse who cares for her, plus the son they have together which changes a lot.

 

Call it selfish, but my Brosca fights a lot for her sister's happiness, ven though she's a warden now

 

I also headcannon a lot of trips to Orzzamar with her BF Zev, over the years

[Shark17676]

Although the RP side of me thinks it's really rad that the game treats the races differently, even if it isn't equal treatment, reading Skyhold's quartermaster's letter to his dad as my dwarf was a bit disappointing to him.

 

With my Qunari, the quartermaster was completely awestruck, saying things like, "Father, the Inquisitor is a Qunari, horns and all, and how I wish you could gaze upon him as I can -- he's the most awesome and inspiring figure you'll ever see!"

 

Whereas with my dwarf he writes something like, "Father, I know the Inquisitor is but a simple dwarf, but give him a chance and he may surprise you."  And then my mind heard him fart to punctuate his sentence.

[Cypher0020]

We just aren't given enough love, my fellow salrokas

 

F!Adeucan x Gorim, I think was by far the best romance....that was a tease....in a way.....

 

By Inquisition, we get Harding, Varric is unromancable.....

 

we have the best NPC's- Rica, Leske, Behlen, Shale.....

[TEWR]

ROFL Harrowmont is more focused on lining his own pockets than actually feeding his people. That's why there are riots if he's in charge yet Bhelen manages to not have riots and tries to feed his people. Bhelen also gives a Dwarven Warden a great statue whereas Harrowmont builds a cheap one. Bhelen also stops Branka from experimenting on casteless while Harrowmont doesn't care about casteless. Bhelen also never gives up the search for a Dwarven Warden while Harrowmont just gives up.

 

Face it, the devs have short of outright declared Harrowmont to be the wrong choice. Bhelen is pretty much better in practically every way and the devs are pretty much confirming it. There is literally no area that Harrowmont does better than Bhelen.

 

While I agree Bhelen's the better choice I wish it wasn't so forced down us now. To be honest I preferred the ambiguous nature. The devs have, from Origins, made a story that kisses Bhelen's ass even if you're a DN.

 

Now they've dropped all pretense at it and have admitted Bhelen's ass is their cushion for their face.

 

(Yes I really hate Bhelen that much since I played a DN )

[veeia]

DID SOMEONE MENTION AEDUCAN/GORIM?? That's like my bat signal, lmfao. I love them so much....still one of my top game romances, dreamy sigh, cry, why????

Also because we like pictures, I'm linking my tumblr photo set of Hella here too. http://suziedowninth...ncess-of-thedas

[daveliam]

DID SOMEONE MENTION AEDUCAN/GORIM?? That's like my bat signal, lmfao. I love them so much....still one of my top game romances, dreamy sigh, cry, why????

Also because we like pictures, I'm linking my tumblr photo set of Hella here too. http://suziedowninth...ncess-of-thedas

 

Mmmmmm.......Gorim......... <drools>

I always head canon that my gay Aeducan totally has a thing for a Gorim too, but has come to terms with the fact that his dreamy best friend is straight as can be.  I would have loved the opportunity for Gorim and Lord Aeducan to get the same flirts as Lady Aeducan. 

 

That being said, my Lady Aeducan got all of the hot KISA types for herself:  first Gorim and then Alistair.  What a lucky gal, she was.  Loved her and her story (even if it ended up not working out for her and Alistair in the long-run).

[DragonReine]

Ugh, Gorim, such a HUGE crush on him, so sad that we can't romance him (or see more of him after the origin story)

 

Anyway, I'm posting a couple of pics of Cadwgan again, mostly because there aren't many in-game cutscenes where I can appreciate his profile properly (I spent ages getting that nose to look right). 

 

 

[Tishina]

Mmmmmm.......Gorim......... <drools>

I always head canon that my gay Aeducan totally has a thing for a Gorim too, but has come to terms with the fact that his dreamy best friend is straight as can be.  I would have loved the opportunity for Gorim and Lord Aeducan to get the same flirts as Lady Aeducan. 

 

That being said, my Lady Aeducan got all of the hot KISA types for herself:  first Gorim and then Alistair.  What a lucky gal, she was.  Loved her and her story (even if it ended up not working out for her and Alistair in the long-run).

Gorim, then Alistair, then Zevran who was probably her best match anyway. My Aeducan was much more practical than romantic. Which makes the fact she made the US in my first run with Ozera a little out of character. But since I actually played through from the point of that decision on both ways, even though the US was my cannon choice for her, I'm actually playing Zhenya with Ozera alive and well (I couldn't resist imagining Zhenya and Ozera meeting up at some point ). US wardens, especially if they didn't romance Lel or Morrigan, seem to get almost no mention in DAI. Well, the paragon statues, but knowing Ozera's suspicions about Harrowmont were right makes that a pretty bittersweet mention.

[Cypher0020]

So is Rica/Behlen's son the next king or not? I wish we could  have gotten more info out of that.... or what happens if Harrowmont is king......anyone pick Harrowmont?

 

I think in my like...8 Origins runs, never choose the guy

[Tishina]

Not selfish at all! My Brosca was the same way.

 

In fact, before Duncan, my Brosca went around rubbing everyone's nose in how she's the meanest thing with a blade (to paraphrase Leske), but Rica was the only person she was openly loving, protective, and supportive of. In fact, Brosca didn't show kindness to anyone, not even Leske, because she thought showing kindness was showing weakness. But for Rica? She openly defended her to everyone (including Beraht and Leske) and honestly didn't care if anyone thought her love for her sister was weak. She'd run her blade across the tongue of anyone that said so.

 

While Brosca did a lot of growing up outside Orzammar, I imagine she was still fiercely protective of her sister's happiness when she got home. Supported Bhelen without even needing to think about it since Rica seemed happy, and threatened Kala when she griped about the palace. "Rica is happy now. Don't you dare ruin that for her." (Yeah, my Brosca would not have been above committing matricide if she thought that Kala's complaining would in any way threatened Rica's position in the palace.)

 

God, that was a good playthrough!

My Brosca was one of my two favorite PTs. I imagined the only reason Koshka hadn't run for the surface to escape the Carta was because of Rica, and she planned to do it as soon as Rica had a noble protector. She didn't bully for the fun of it, only when she felt she needed to make certain people remembered she was a predator and dangerous.

 

She had no idea that there even were people as naive and sweet as Alistair, but when he turned out to be real, she decided it was her job to protect him from being used and toughen him up just enough that he'd survive without becoming bitter. When she found out who he was, she instantly put two and two together and realized that Eamon was going to want to put him on the throne, and not trusting Eamon, she decided the best way to make sure Alistair was protected was to put herself into position to be his mistress (and considering how Rica was treated by at least some of the nobles, there's no particular stigma to that for dwarves). By the time of the Landsmeet, she was thoroughly in love with him. And every king needs a fiercely protective assassin who's known to have a particular talent for poisons as a chancellor, right? (I really loved the idea of two kings with Brosca sisters as mistresses, btw, though apparently once Brosca becomes a paragon, Bhelen marries Rica.)

 

Did you have Morrigan along when you talked to Brosca's mother? I think it may be about the only time in the entire game when when one of your party members reacts to someone insulting you (and one of the reasons I loved Morrigan).

[Andraste_Reborn]

I think it's become clear that Bhelen is the best choice for Orzammar, unless he does something truly heinous in the future, which I guess is still possible. And yet, I still feel happier about the world states where I put Harrowmont in charge. I just loathe that backstabbing bastard that much. I hate rewarding him for getting his brother killed, his other sibling exiled and probably offing his dad while he was at it.