Hi there! I just wanted to share my dashing rogue assasin-to-be Varvara Cadash with you folks. She's my 3rd character after mage Trevelyan and reaver Adaar (haven't finished qunari though, dwarf stole my heart), but I already love her so much, she's my precious dwarfette. Can't decide yet whom she will love, Blackwall or Josie 
Here're many faces of my lady Cadash.
So anyone think of backgrounds for theirs yet?
I'm tentaively working on one.
Newest Cadash, will be Ardris. A SnS Champion.
Her father is a surfacer, part of the Carta. Her mother was an Orzzamar fence for the Carta in dust town. Of course, his frequent trips in the lyrium smuggling business, the pair hit it off. He convinced her to go to the surface with him, which she happily accepted.
Ardris was born probably on a ship en route to the Free Marches, the first born of probably five, a brother, then three more girls woul follow later on.
What I'm headcannoing is that her parents are genuninely nice people. Yes, they're all members of the Carta clan, but I RP that she had a pretty nice home life too. Her father, being a foreward thinking man, put coin towards schooling, so she's a well taught woman, has manners, a set of morals, which probably sets her apart from the general carta stock of rough housers.
I plan to us the UK accent, since she's of the Free Marchers, SnS since her father paid out of pocket to get her the best training available.
Can't say the Blight scare from Fereldan wasn't a Maker's blessing to their empty coffers. I imagine the lyrium biz probably boomed in the early years, now with the Mage/Templar War......
Her father loathed to have her go to the Conclave, but interests were at stake, plus, can't really say no in a situation like that. What their boss says, goes.
The rest.... well, history.
DID SOMEONE MENTION AEDUCAN/GORIM?? That's like my bat signal, lmfao. I love them so much....still one of my top game romances, dreamy sigh, cry, why????
Also because we like pictures, I'm linking my tumblr photo set of Hella here too. http://suziedowninth...ncess-of-thedas
LOVE IT. I've been wanting to make a dwarf tumblr account just so I can pour out my fandom somewhere, but I haven't had the time to sit down to work on one. I don't even know what to call it. I have an account to read tumblr posts on my phone while I'm lying in bed with my toddler waiting for her to nod off already. =p
Speaking of which, there's a few tumblr posts that are interesting enough to share with the dwarf thread. I'll make another post after this when I dig them up.
While I agree Bhelen's the better choice I wish it wasn't so forced down us now. To be honest I preferred the ambiguous nature. The devs have, from Origins, made a story that kisses Bhelen's ass even if you're a DN.
Now they've dropped all pretense at it and have admitted Bhelen's ass is their cushion for their face.
(Yes I really hate Bhelen that much since I played a DN
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I wonder how much of this is because of Jennifer Hepler's departure. She was the "Queen of Dwarves" and responsible for a lot of the content in Origins. She's no longer with the company. It's possible the shift in direction could be due to someone else picking up the slack and solidifying the "Bhelen is good, Harrowmont is bad" theme?
Hi there! I just wanted to share my dashing rogue assasin-to-be Varvara Cadash with you folks. She's my 3rd character after mage Trevelyan and reaver Adaar (haven't finished qunari though, dwarf stole my heart), but I already love her so much, she's my precious dwarfette. Can't decide yet whom she will love, Blackwall or Josie
Here're many faces of my lady Cadash.
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Keep us updated! She looks fantastic, btw.
Here's a few dwarf-specific posts I saw from David Gaider on tumblr. Sharing here for ponderment.
Hey, random fan here! You've answered a few of my questions here on tumblr before, including dwarf related ones, and I just wanted to tell you something. While I do agree with the previous anon that finally getting a dwarven romance would be pretty neat, I'm just grateful for everything you and your team have done, romance and otherwise. The Dragon Age team is a hardworking group that I'm eternally grateful for, considering all the fun I've been able to have over the years. Thank you.
Oh, that’s nice.
What I find infinitely more reassuring than the idea I’m some dwarf-hating, bisexual-hating ogre guarding the Gates of Romancedom — and that everyone else on the team would immediately jump all over these things if I didn’t insist otherwise — is the idea I should lose my job so you get the exact romances you want.
So thanks for that. I hope you had a lovely Christmas.
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Does the Dragon Age team have anything personal against dwarves? So far, they've definitely been the most neglected race in Dragon Age. As a person whose favorite fantasy race are the dwarves, it's something that totally bums me out when I play your games that I otherwise regard very highly.
I’m not sure what you mean. Considering so few players choose to play as a dwarf, if we truly had something personal against them we would cut them out as a playable race completely—because, if there was indeed something we have against them, it’s their height. They and Qunari will always be the most difficult to accommodate cinematically (due to the vastly different heights). I’d like to go back to a dwarven setting like Orzammar again (maybe Kal-Sharok?), but it would require the right story to make it happen.
Thanks for posting these, Gilsa. I hate that someone hoped for Gaider to lose his job because of dwarf-content. What a shitty thing to say to someone.
.... I’d like to go back to a dwarven setting like Orzammar again (maybe Kal-Sharok?), but it would require the right story to make it happen....
This particular quote makes me think (and I admit that I might be reading too much into it) that they are probably not planning a dwarf setting for DA4. If this is a recent quote, I'd assume that he'd know if they were going to Kal-Sharok or Orzammar in DA4 already, given that they've probably already begun their planning for that game. Again, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the ? after Kal-Sharok sounds like he might have a few ideas for it, but it didn't fit into the next game. I'm fine with that as long as we continue to get to play as dwarf PCs and get some dwarf-related side-quests.
Of course, this is assuming that the post is current, that they have actually begun the development of DA4, and that Gaider isn't pulling a fast one. All of which might might not be true.
@daveliam -- The top two quotes about romances were posted three days ago. The Kal-Sharok one (on the bottom) was dated five months ago.
I hate that someone hoped for Gaider to lose his job because of dwarf-content. What a shitty thing to say to someone.
That actually made me angry - I hate thinking that anyone might get the impression that dwarf romance fans in general are like that. I know David Gaider is smart enough not to assume that everyone who wants a dwarf romance agrees with that idiot, but it's horrible that anyone would think that was an appropriate thing to say.
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My Brosca was one of my two favorite PTs. I imagined the only reason Koshka hadn't run for the surface to escape the Carta was because of Rica, and she planned to do it as soon as Rica had a noble protector. She didn't bully for the fun of it, only when she felt she needed to make certain people remembered she was a predator and dangerous.
Ah, nice. It literally never occurred to my character to go to the surface. She didn't ask about her father to Rica, so had no idea he had escaped to the surface. (She'd always assumed she was the result of a failed attempt at noble hunting, which would explain why Kala favored Rica but hated her). Since the hole under the ground was the only world she had ever known, she assumed that's all there was. She felt she was trapped in this city with these horrible people who looked down on her and her sister, and so always acted aggressive to prove she was strong and respectable.
Imagine her shock when she mouthed off to a surface merchant, who then said words to the effect of, "I don't understand why you stay here when the doors to the surface are right there." It was like her whole world opened up. She was still toying with the idea of the surface when she met Duncan, but she still had a job to do to help Rica, and then, well... the rest is history.
She had no idea that there even were people as naive and sweet as Alistair, but when he turned out to be real, she decided it was her job to protect him from being used and toughen him up just enough that he'd survive without becoming bitter. When she found out who he was, she instantly put two and two together and realized that Eamon was going to want to put him on the throne, and not trusting Eamon, she decided the best way to make sure Alistair was protected was to put herself into position to be his mistress (and considering how Rica was treated by at least some of the nobles, there's no particular stigma to that for dwarves). By the time of the Landsmeet, she was thoroughly in love with him. And every king needs a fiercely protective assassin who's known to have a particular talent for poisons as a chancellor, right? (I really loved the idea of two kings with Brosca sisters as mistresses, btw, though apparently once Brosca becomes a paragon, Bhelen marries Rica.)
Nice. My Brosca was similarly surprised by human kindness, but with Duncan. After being treated like dirt by everyone since infancy, she became convinced that everyone (except Rica) was rotten under their shows of toughness or moral superiority. She often bullied and mouthed off to people because she felt that people show their "true colors" when insulted or challenged (especially by a "brand"). Duncan was the first person to be unfailingly polite and respectful to her even when she mouthed off to him, and embody the honor and compassion that most casted dwarves only pretend to have. He was also the first person after Rica to show he recognized her worth (which meant so much to her), stood up for her to the casted dwarves, saved her from execution, brought her to the surface, showed her a whole new world where she didn't need to be aggressive or ruthless for day-to-day living.
I imagine Brosca mellowed out once she got to the surface, since most surfacers have never heard of the caste system and don't realize she's supposed to be a "brand," so she has no reason to be rude to them. I imagine she idolized Duncan for it (much like Daveth and Alistair), and so dedicated her life to stopping the Blight and then rebuilding the Grey Warden Order in Ferelden in his memory. (What else is she gonna do? Doesn't want to return to Orzammar, but also doesn't know what to do with herself since the surface is so far and alien from everything she's ever known. At least the Wardens give her purpose and direction.)
She didn't romance anyone though. While she stopped being actively aggressive and ruthless, she also wasn't nice. She wasn't friendly, talkative, or overly interested in other people's affairs. Since DAO romances require you to be kind, polite, and supportive of your partner, I couldn't get her to kick off any romance dialogue while keeping her in-character. (Plus, she's attracted to muscle-bound dwarven men. The thicker, the better.) But that's all right. She grew a lot as a person, helped her sister find happiness, proved to herself and the world that she's more than a common thug, and found a greater purpose in life than just knocking skulls or helping her sister get knocked up. It was more than enough for her.
Did you have Morrigan along when you talked to Brosca's mother? I think it may be about the only time in the entire game when when one of your party members reacts to someone insulting you (and one of the reasons I loved Morrigan).
Actually, YES! I believe so! Doesn't she comment that you two have more in common than she thought, since Kala is just as verbally abusive to Brasca as Flemeth is to Morrigan? That was hilarious! XD
I get frustrated because the people who are the biggest jerks about dwarf content never post in the dwarf thread, or contribute to dwarf discussions on tumblr, or add to a dwarf dialogue in any meaningful way/ often they don't even play as dwarves themselves, I've noticed. They're just jerks.
But I doubt Gaider or any of the writing team associates dwarf fans with that element, because they complain about everything. At least I hope not.
I can't even talk about Cassandra in her fan thread, because people attack me for romancing her as a dwarf. I'm not going to change what's in my signature, but I'm going to stay out of that thread.
I can't even talk about Cassandra in her fan thread, because people attack me for romancing her as a dwarf.
... really? People are weird.
I think Cadash and Cassandra would be adorable together - my female dwarf Inquisitor flirted with her at every opportunity . However, my male dwarf is scheduled to #ridethebull, so I think I'm going to make a Dalish rogue for her instead.
... really? People are weird.
I think Cadash and Cassandra would be adorable together - my female dwarf Inquisitor flirted with her at every opportunity
Yea, someone thinks it's a fetish. They even went so far to call the people that romance Cassandra as a dwarf or qunari, freaks.
I can't even talk about Cassandra in her fan thread, because people attack me for romancing her as a dwarf. I'm not going to change what's in my signature, but I'm going to stay out of that thread.
I kind of hate that about BSN sometimes. People get so devoted to a particular view of a character that they become incredibly close-minded about anything that varies from that and it can get uncomfortable. I'm personally torn with that right now because there seems to be a feud between Dorian fans and Bull fans over their relationship if you don't romance either of them. And while I prefer Dorian, I find some of the Dorian fans down right insulting of Bull and his fans and it makes me uncomfortable in that thread sometimes. I wish we could all just get along. Rainbows and kittens. We do it in the dwarf lover thread (and the gay KISA thread), which is why those two are my favorite threads to stay in, to be honest.
... really? People are weird.
I think Cadash and Cassandra would be adorable together - my female dwarf Inquisitor flirted with her at every opportunity
Aw yeah! Make him a redhead! Join us!
I get frustrated because the people who are the biggest jerks about dwarf content never post in the dwarf thread, or contribute to dwarf discussions on tumblr, or add to a dwarf dialogue in any meaningful way/ often they don't even play as dwarves themselves, I've noticed. They're just jerks.
But I doubt Gaider or any of the writing team associates dwarf fans with that element, because they complain about everything. At least I hope not.
Dwarf-loving poseurs in my mind. Fringe elements who we don't claim! 
Hi there! I just wanted to share my dashing rogue assasin-to-be Varvara Cadash with you folks. She's my 3rd character after mage Trevelyan and reaver Adaar (haven't finished qunari though, dwarf stole my heart), but I already love her so much, she's my precious dwarfette. Can't decide yet whom she will love, Blackwall or Josie
Here're many faces of my lady Cadash.
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She's beautiful! I wish I could share pics of my Dwarf, Anneska, but I'm on Xbox One (no screenshots yet) and the camera on my phone is absolute garbage.
I love seeing people's Dwarf characters- they are a treasured rarity though.
I kind of hate that about BSN sometimes. People get so devoted to a particular view of a character that they become incredibly close-minded about anything that varies from that and it can get uncomfortable. I'm personally torn with that right now because there seems to be a feud between Dorian fans and Bull fans over their relationship if you don't romance either of them. And while I prefer Dorian, I find some of the Dorian fans down right insulting of Bull and his fans and it makes me uncomfortable in that thread sometimes. I wish we could all just get along. Rainbows and kittens. We do it in the dwarf lover thread (and the gay KISA thread), which is why those two are my favorite threads to stay in, to be honest.
I had a similar experience with the Alistair and Zevran threads back in the DAO days. I liked both characters as romance options, but Alistair got a lot of hate from some of those that had the nasty shock of being dumped after crowning him king or just from those that resented how much of a golden boy he seemed to be. On some level it was understandable because there wasn't really a way to yell at Alistair so venting frustrations in a thread was easier and unfortunately, toxic. Thread wars developed, unpleasant memes were passed around in the name of "fun," and so on. It was the start of me not being interested in character threads in general. The dwarf thread was a pretty good place to be in. Got carried away at times with the Bhelen and Harrowmont stuff, especially with comparing them to political figures (!), but still awesome stuff. Harrowmont died in the epilogue, IIRC, so we speculated on whether our Paragon Aeducans would return to rule or if someone better than both Harrowmont and Bhelen would take over from there. This was all before it was announced that Hawke would be the next protagonist, that the stories of our wardens were truly over.
tl;dr: character threads = crapshoots, dwarf thread = infinitely awesome. =D
Yea, someone thinks it's a fetish. They even went so far to call the people that romance Cassandra as a dwarf or qunari, freaks.
Well now I'm gonna edit my signature and deliberately post in the Cass thread just to annoy that person 
(only half-joking here.... maybe).
That sucks. Ppl actually wanted Mr. Gaider to lose his job? Seriously?
Well joke's on them, my M!Cadash is gonna romance Cass. Can't wait to start that PT
Aw yeah! Make him a redhead! Join us!
That's the plan 
. I feel like all Bull riding Inquisitors should be redheads.
First, though, I need to complete the game with my qunari mage Inquisitor who's romancing Dorian. (They're adorable.)
Dwarf-loving poseurs in my mind. Fringe elements who we don't claim!
I feel like a lot of the people who do this stuff don't even care about the specific 'issue' they just hate EA or BioWare or David Gaider for some reason and jump on anything to complain about. People were also yelling at him about Sera, and it's not like he wrote her. (Not that he isn't responsible for overseeing the characters and storylines as lead writer, but assuming I wanted to yell at someone about Sera, he would not be first on my list.)
Although my first run at DA:O was a dwarf, with DA:I it's my third
Human 2H warrior, Qunari Mage, now 1H warrior dwarf (I don't like rogue so much in any game).
This is Jack, she is less angry than her namesake though (because we all have favourite characters )
Although my first run at DA:O was a dwarf, with DA:I it's my third
Human 2H warrior, Qunari Mage, now 1H warrior dwarf (I don't like rogue so much in any game).
This is Jack, she is less angry than her namesake though (because we all have favourite characters
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She's pretty. I really the androgynous parts of her looks. She's traditionally gorgeous, but she has a masculine haircut and thick eyebrows. Nice work with her.
Here's a few dwarf-specific posts I saw from David Gaider on tumblr.
Anyone have screens of the Legion armor and the Carta assassin armor on a female dwarf? I can't find any.
Thick eyebrows makes me drool. I can't even . Nice one, Drum!
Ah, nice. It literally never occurred to my character to go to the surface. She didn't ask about her father to Rica, so had no idea he had escaped to the surface. (She'd always assumed she was the result of a failed attempt at noble hunting, which would explain why Kala favored Rica but hated her). Since the hole under the ground was the only world she had ever known, she assumed that's all there was. She felt she was trapped in this city with these horrible people who looked down on her and her sister, and so always acted aggressive to prove she was strong and respectable.
Imagine her shock when she mouthed off to a surface merchant, who then said words to the effect of, "I don't understand why you stay here when the doors to the surface are right there." It was like her whole world opened up. She was still toying with the idea of the surface when she met Duncan, but she still had a job to do to help Rica, and then, well... the rest is history.
Nice. My Brosca was similarly surprised by human kindness, but with Duncan. After being treated like dirt by everyone since infancy, she became convinced that everyone (except Rica) was rotten under their shows of toughness or moral superiority. She often bullied and mouthed off to people because she felt that people show their "true colors" when insulted or challenged (especially by a "brand"). Duncan was the first person to be unfailingly polite and respectful to her even when she mouthed off to him, and embody the honor and compassion that most casted dwarves only pretend to have. He was also the first person after Rica to show he recognized her worth (which meant so much to her), stood up for her to the casted dwarves, saved her from execution, brought her to the surface, showed her a whole new world where she didn't need to be aggressive or ruthless for day-to-day living.
I imagine Brosca mellowed out once she got to the surface, since most surfacers have never heard of the caste system and don't realize she's supposed to be a "brand," so she has no reason to be rude to them. I imagine she idolized Duncan for it (much like Daveth and Alistair), and so dedicated her life to stopping the Blight and then rebuilding the Grey Warden Order in Ferelden in his memory. (What else is she gonna do? Doesn't want to return to Orzammar, but also doesn't know what to do with herself since the surface is so far and alien from everything she's ever known. At least the Wardens give her purpose and direction.)
She didn't romance anyone though. While she stopped being actively aggressive and ruthless, she also wasn't nice. She wasn't friendly, talkative, or overly interested in other people's affairs. Since DAO romances require you to be kind, polite, and supportive of your partner, I couldn't get her to kick off any romance dialogue while keeping her in-character. (Plus, she's attracted to muscle-bound dwarven men. The thicker, the better.) But that's all right. She grew a lot as a person, helped her sister find happiness, proved to herself and the world that she's more than a common thug, and found a greater purpose in life than just knocking skulls or helping her sister get knocked up. It was more than enough for her.
Actually, YES! I believe so! Doesn't she comment that you two have more in common than she thought, since Kala is just as verbally abusive to Brasca as Flemeth is to Morrigan? That was hilarious! XD
Oh, my Brosca was fiercely loyal to Duncan after all that (and the initial reason she started looking out for Alistair).
And yes, Morrigan says almost exactly that!
Yea, someone thinks it's a fetish. They even went so far to call the people that romance Cassandra as a dwarf or qunari, freaks.
Man, talk about issues! I see something bordering on that sometimes in other threads (usually people who play nothing but humans or an occasional elf because even in games they seem to feel the need to look like something out of a Hollywood romance film), but nothing nearly that bad. I think the dwarf/Cass romance is incredibly well done.
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