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[daveliam]

A question, Dwarf lovers if you will indulge me. Who is your favorite LI to pair with a Dwarf? I was considering a gentleman Dwarf for Dorian, but I am unsure...

 

I'm partial to Cadash and Bull.  I kind of love that Cadash is up for riding the Bull and I kind of love that Bull can fall for such a tiny little bundle of awesome like Cadash.  Of course, I do male Cadash and Bull, but I also totally get female Cadash and Bull too.

 

I don't know what judgements to make exactly. You're all humans like I am. I'm puzzled most of all. I can't figure out how to really approach this. Yet you're taking it so personally that you're making me feel like I'm in a debate with actual dwarves.

 

Which I'm not.

 

It doesn't harm me, you're right. I just think it's silly. And "cute" at best. Does that mean I'm stopping you? Writing letters to Bioware? What are you worried about? Do you simply expect everyone to be all accepting and get along? That's not realistic. Sometimes we are divided, people have strong opinions.. and there's nothing to do but accept the difference. 

 

People like what they like.  That's the extent of it.  It's not your place to understand why people like what they like.  Suffice it to say that people enjoy Cass and Cadash pairings.  You don't.  Okay.  Great.  Moving on.  This thread is the dwarf support thread.  You should be unsurprised to see people favoring dwarf pairings in this thread.  If you can't get down with that, this is probably not the best thread to be posting in. 

 

And to bring it back to dwarf love.  I've been tinkering around with a new dwarf.  I won't get around to playing him for quite some time (doing a dual run - alternating between Agathe and my remaking my canon qunari Inquisitor; then I'm expecting to lose some time to dissertation work) so I likely won't get to play him through until the spring.  He's a sword and board warrior and I'm designing him to be the dwarf version of Dorian, specifically to romance Dorian and give him a sassy, cocky run for his money.  I like how he looks.  Expect updates on him in the upcoming months. 

 

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Meet Finnlagh Cadash

 

He will bring my Inquisitor tally to four:

 

Talan Adaar - male qunari two-handed warrior (romanced Dorian)

Graeme Cadash - male dwarf dual wield rogue (romanced Bull)

Agathe Cadash - female dwarf ranged rogue (romancing either Sera or Josephine or Blackwall -- she can't decide yet!)

Finnlagh Cadash - male dwarf sword and shield warrior (romancing Dorian)

 

I definitely can't shake my dwarf preference, even if my canon Inquisitor is a qunari! 

[Obvious_Shining]

hey boys

[sandalisthemaker]

I've played dwarves before. You don't have to defend their general presence. I even have said multiple times I'd love a dwarf specific game. With a majority of dwarf companions.

 

I just like things to be in their proper time and situation. It's annoying that people picked the Chantry game to end all Chantry games to carry on their dwarf (or qunari) love. That the game got delayed because enough people complainedt to have this.. when Bioware originally had another story in mind. It just shows how defiant people are being, wanting the games to be their own sandbox, instead of working with the premise.

 

As for romance and racial pairings, I never really gave it much thought until this game. Then realism and nudity changed it for me, I think. It wasn't the dwarves that bothered me at first though. I kind of spun out of control with Qunari hate, after running into youtube vids. The comments I saw discouraged me. People just laughing at the scene, saying Cass needs a "bull's dick". She was my favorite character I was waiting for. I expected better than stuff like this. But it's all become a big joke. I don't find it easy to like fellow Bioware fans anymore. This open nature of her relationship has brought in all kinds of people to abuse it or respect where she's coming from.

 

So since the behavior of some fans has troubled you, you then go on to trouble others with your own behavior? And anyway Youtube is a festering cesspool that is way worse than even the BSN.  People here in the dwarf thread are nice and chill, so I don't know why you are equating the two.

 

I suspect Cassandra isn't losing any sleep over the comments of DA:I players. You play your story, and let other people play theirs.

[Merela]

Hey boys

Eh. Made me laugh. Like your previous montage. Nothing wrong with it.

[daveliam]

hey boys

 

Yawn.

 

 

 

How am I troubling you? I have not done anything like the above.

 

Unfortunately Cass isn't real (I wish that wasn't true). But someone should care

 

Seriously, can we just drop it?  Romance Cass with whoever you want.  I genuinely don't care and I don't see why you care who other people romance her with....

[Fandango]

I'm romancing Cass with my dwarf quisitor. I have just one qualm with that relationship. To really get her approval really high, you have to be the faithful Andrastian, which feels weird for a dwarf. It's not totally out of the question, but it seems odd.

I have the vague recollection reading that it's not all that uncommon for surface Dwarfs to be Andrastian. Me, I role-played someone who's natural scepticism waxed and waned throughout the game. T'was great fun!

EDIT: Finnlagh looks awesome Dave - please tell me you chose the British accent?

[sandalisthemaker]

How am I troubling you? I have not done anything like the above.

 

You are not troubling me personally.

 

I am just choosing to engage you because I have nothing better to do at this moment in time.

 

But perhaps its the fact that you are throwing around words like 'fetish', calling people childish, and accusing them of ruining the game by somehow grabbing BioWare by the neck and forcing them to change the game to include content that they like?

[daveliam]

I have the vague recollection reading that it's not all that uncommon for surface Dwarfs to be Andrastian. Me, I role-played someone who's natural scepticism waxed and waned throughout the game.

 

Well, it would definitely make sense for surface dwarves to be Andrastian.  If they are raised in a human-dominated society, then it makes sense that some of them would turn to the dominant human religion as well.  It's a culture thing.  Varric's Andrastian and he's probably the closest parallel to Cadash that we know (well, Bianca is probably a better example, given her underworld connections, but I'm not sure if her religion has ever been touched upon).

[daveliam]

EDIT: Finnlagh looks awesome Dave - please tell me you chose the British accent?

 

I did!  Just fits him much better than the American one (plus, my last dwarf had the American accent so I wanted to mix it up a bit)!  I have this whole head-canon story about how he has the casteless tattoo because it allows him to maneuver through Orzammar without most people stopping him to talk, since his surfacer accent gives him away.  I see him as the enforcer (muscle) for the Orzammar trade trips.

[Fandango]

I did!  Just fits him much better than the American one (plus, my last dwarf had the American accent so I wanted to mix it up a bit)!  I have this whole head-canon story about how he has the casteless tattoo because it allows him to maneuver through Orzammar without most people stopping him to talk, since his surfacer accent gives him away.  I see him as the enforcer (muscle) for the Orzammar trade trips.

Why d'you have to make us brits the outsiders there Dave? Seriously though, great work with the CC.

[daveliam]

The sad thing is that the Chantry itself teaches the dwarves aren't from the Maker. Also something Orzammar would say too. That they're from the stone.

 

Why they still embrace a religion that considers them freaks of nature, I don't know.

 

There's definitely real-world parallels to this.  I personally can't understand it, but then again, I'm an atheist so I can't understand any faith-based beliefs personally.  But I understand that people find comfort in faith and also find comfort in being part of the majority, so I can certainly understand how it would make sense for a surfacer dwarf (or Tal-Vashoth) to be played as Andrastian.  I've toyed with the idea of doing a playthrough like just to see how different the story feels, but I just personally can't get into a character that is driven by faith.  I'm wondering if anyone here has played a devout Andrastian dwarf and can comment on how that story arc feels for them?

 

Why d'you have to make us brits the outsiders there Dave? Seriously though, great work with the CC.

 

Thanks.  And I'm American.  It's my job to make everyone not born in the contiguous states an outsider. 

 

Okay, it might have to do with the fact that everyone in Orzammar has an American accent.  But I like my first explanation better.  'Murica!

[JasonPogo]

I'm romancing Cass with my dwarf quisitor. I have just one qualm with that relationship. To really get her approval really high, you have to be the faithful Andrastian, which feels weird for a dwarf. It's not totally out of the question, but it seems odd.

 

I have romanced Cass as a 100% non believer.  It takes a little longer to get her approval up but it can be done. 

[JasonPogo]

There's definitely real-world parallels to this.  I personally can't understand it, but then again, I'm an atheist so I can't understand any faith-based beliefs personally.  But I understand that people find comfort in faith and also find comfort in being part of the majority, so I can certainly understand how it would make sense for a surfacer dwarf (or Tal-Vashoth) to be played as Andrastian.  I've toyed with the idea of doing a playthrough like just to see how different the story feels, but I just personally can't get into a character that is driven by faith.  I'm wondering if anyone here has played a devout Andrastian dwarf and can comment on how that story arc feels for them?

 

 

 

I'm in the same boat as you.  I made a human and made him very pro Andrastian.  I had to stop playing him as I just could not get into it.  My own real life biases kept creeping in.

[Tishina]

I've been told this thread is a safe heaven for dwarf players, and I was wondering if you guys would mind if I joined? I've enjoyed playing a dwarf since DA:O (my Brosca Warrior is my canon Hero of Ferelden, and he and my Aeducan rogue princess saved the world side by side; it's a long story) and it only felt natural to play DA:I as Cadash - I am quite fond of the idea of dwarves saving the day while humans are too busy sitting on their hands, I admit.

 

By some mischance, I also happen to be a CassxCadash shipper.

 

So I'm just going to post some screenshots of my Fjalar (also known as the nerd) and sit quietlly in a corner while basking in the awesomeness that are the dwarves in the DA settings, if it's fine with everyone.

 

Oh, I also cook delicious brownies.

 

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Welcome! This is our safe haven, definitely. Better hide the brownies from this crowd, though

[Merela]

There's definitely real-world parallels to this.  I personally can't understand it, but then again, I'm an atheist so I can't understand any faith-based beliefs personally.  But I understand that people find comfort in faith and also find comfort in being part of the majority, so I can certainly understand how it would make sense for a surfacer dwarf (or Tal-Vashoth) to be played as Andrastian.  I've toyed with the idea of doing a playthrough like just to see how different the story feels, but I just personally can't get into a character that is driven by faith.  I'm wondering if anyone here has played a devout Andrastian dwarf and can comment on how that story arc feels for them?

 

My Cadash is a fervent andrastrian convert, and the story actually feels really good. Much better than if he believed in the Stone, or was atheist, I would say. The 'Dawn will come' scene was all the sweetest, after having to face complains about a heathen dwarf being the Herald of Andraste since the beginning. Romancing Cass and her commenting about Fjalar being a faithful man? My smile was the largest ever. The whole 'Here lies the Abyss' mission led to a crisis of faith, which was also really interesting to explore. No really I liked it.

[daveliam]

My Cadash is a fervent andrastrian convert, and the story actually feels really good. Much better than if he believed in the Stone, or was atheist, I would say. The 'Dawn will come' scene was all the sweetest, after having to face complain about a heathen dwarf being the Herald of Andraste since the beginning. Romancing Cass and her cmmenting jalar was a faithful man? My smile was the largest ever. The whole 'Here lies the Abyss' mission led to a crisis faith, which was really interesting to explore. No really I liked it.

 

This was exactly what I thinking when I was toying with the idea of creating an Andrastian character.  I thought it could be very interesting to play with the idea of a crisis of faith because of that scene.  I normally play it as, "Uh, duh.  I told you I wasn't chosen.", but can see really interesting themes that could emerge from a character with faith being presented that same information.  I'm kind of fascinated by it.  I'd love to give it a whirl some time, but I suspect that I'd get about two hours in and lose patience with the character.  I'm becoming more and more narrow in the ways in which I enjoy RPing my characters.  For better or worse.

 

Fortunately, being a dwarf is right in the wheelhouse!

[JasonPogo]

Well to be honest the game feels as though it was writing with the expectation that you would be Andratian.  Whenever you express your views that you are not the Herald the game just feels like it is humoring you and goes on with its assumption that you are a religious figure regardless.

[Merela]

Welcome! All fans of Dwarves are welcome here, and fear not for your tale of your Brosca and Aeducan, as my own Aeducan led not one, not two, not three, but nine other Wardens (alongside the original companions) against the Blight!

 

 

Welcome! This is our safe haven, definitely. Better hide the brownies from this crowd, though

 

Also, I wanted to thank you for the welcome. It seems I might have brought troubles with me, for which I want to apologize. Double helping of brownies for all!

[Tishina]

Oi, just caught up. Seriously, remember the ignore button if necessary. Some people get hung up on appearance over the real person. I don't care if someone looks like quasimodo, if he or she is a loveable person, that's what matters. I also don't understand why some people get their knickers in a twist over who other people romance in their games. Besides, it isn't as if dwarves were given any more appropriate options...

[Tishina]

Also, I wanted to thank you for the welcome. It seems I might have brought troubles with me, for which I want to apologize. Double helping of brownies for all!

Nah, I think this followed over from one of the other boards. Apparently people take offense at short people having a romance.

[daveliam]

Well to be honest the game feels as though it was writing with the expectation that you would be Andratian.  Whenever you express your views that you are not the Herald the game just feels like it is humoring you and goes on with its assumption that you are a religious figure regardless.

 

I liked Mother Giselle at first but then she kept on insisting on passive-aggressively calling me chosen.  I was like, "Dammit lady!  Didn't we go over this?" and she just smiles and condescendingly tells me that it doesn't matter.  Urgh!

 

Also, I wanted to thank you for the welcome. It seems I might have brought troubles with me, for which I want to apologize. Double helping of brownies for all!

 

No worries.  I love brownies! 

 

Oi, just caught up. Seriously, remember the ignore button if necessary. Some people get hung up on appearance over the real person. I don't care if someone looks like quasimodo, if he or she is a loveable person, that's what matters. I also don't understand why some people get their knickers in a twist over who other people romance in their games. Besides, it isn't as if dwarves were given any more appropriate options...

 

Here, here!