So I created a male dwarf with an American accent - my fem dwarf has one too. It felt sort of right even though I think the fem American is a little flat at times. What did others choose?
American all the way for my male dwarf. The voice fits his look perfectly IMO.
I'm curious, if Leliana vacates her position with the Inquisition (after Corypheus is dealt with), would her successor be Lace Harding?
I know it's speculation, but she seems to be the most prominent member of Leliana's group whom we meet, and she's even there during the confrontation with Corypheus, although she narrowly misses being part of the final battle.
That's been my headcanon since I beat Inquisition a few weeks ago, that Harding would take over. She seems to have an affinity I feel with the ravens and crows that very few people can get (as we learn in a note that one of Leliana's agents is flustered with them and they with he) as shown in the Hinterlands cinematic.
But I can also see the point in that Harding might not have Spymaster material in her. It's a grueling job and you have to be willing to sacrifice your people, something Varric notes and something he says makes him a bad pick (as he worries about them all).
Yet something deep inside me says she can be that, if need be.
So I created a male dwarf with an American accent - my fem dwarf has one too. It felt sort of right even though I think the fem American is a little flat at times. What did others choose?
I went with the N. American accent for my lady Cadash, and I love it. 
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The only thing "off" about Dorian/Cadash are the animations in their kissing scene. They kind of just shove their faces into one another, and Cadash tends to grow and shrink throughout the scene, but that only makes me laugh in a good way.
Not talking about just romance. I mean the Inquisition and all it's trappings and activities. Perhaps that romance is cool.. I don't know.
I'm curious, if Leliana vacates her position with the Inquisition (after Corypheus is dealt with), would her successor be Lace Harding?
I know it's speculation, but she seems to be the most prominent member of Leliana's group whom we meet, and she's even there during the confrontation with Corypheus, although she narrowly misses being part of the final battle.
Probably Harding or Charter, I'd lean more towards Charter running and training up the spies and Harding being her chief officer in the field.
TEWR'S post is great and covers a lot of my thoughts.
The lack of meaningful dialogue in the Templar-Mage conflict is incredibly frustrating. Cadash's entire background revolves around lyrium, and they don't get any special dialogue or knowledge of it. I mean, before the game came out, in the thread some of us were worried that there would be too much focus on that and not enough on other dwarven lore, which is hilarious considering how it worked out. We even get some cool revelations about lyrium in this game, and Cadash doesn't get to react or say anything.
The lack of meaningful exploration of what it means to be a dwarf who is the Herald of Andraste is frustrating. Remember in Origins when Brosca/Aeducan could talk to Chantry sisters about dwarves place in Andrastrianism? Why is that kind of content not in this game, where it's more relevant? Why does it just end with "how can a dwarf be Herald of Andraste", asked by NPCs? Why can't we ask that, and have a meaningful conversation...idk, maybe with Giselle? They haven't shied away from those kind of theological dialogues before, so why not when the entire game is a theological dialogue?
Or what it means to be a dwarf who enters the Fade? Dwarves are cut off from the Fade, fullstop. They don't dream in the fade and they don't have magic, and now we have a character who defies both of those "facts", and it is barely acknowledged, even by Solas or Dagna and completely ignored by the PC.
Or what it means to be a former criminal outcast who leads a righteous religious faction? I mean, that's huge. I would have loved to have seen Cadash really have to deal with the Carta--because they aren't idiots, they would grab that opportunity and look to exploit it. These concepts are tossed out by Josie and Dorian but ignored in the larger PC's narrative.
Or what it means to be Andrastrian and a dwarf? Like TEWR said, there's no room for reformation in the game, no room for examining how faith changes and people diverge in beliefs and take ideas from their own culture and mix them into their faith. Ironically, the best example of this is the joke song Andrastre's Mabari....because it shows how Fereldan has incorporated something important to them into a religion they joined.
And there are so many things in the smaller narratives too, like, why does Cadash--the reformed criminal-- not have special dialogue with Blackwall after the revelation? Why can't Cadash, a street level criminal, understand what Sera, a street level criminal, is offering when she is recruited? Why does Bianca explain lyrium smuggling and the Deep Roads and the Merchants Guild to Cadash?
The reactivity is just weak and shallow a lot of the time, imo. This is a pretty critical post, and I want to stress that I love the game, but I had to fill in a lot of the blanks myself.
I apologize. I kind of find it fun to troll back.
Anyways, Go Dwarves!
Unfortunately, it's the kind of thing that gets threads shut down, and this is a popular thread as race-oriented ones go. It's a good way to show there are people who are very enthusiastic about dwarves. I enjoy a good debate too, but only if it's going to go somewhere reasonable and only if it doesn't cause problems.
Not talking about just romance. I mean the Inquisition and all it's trappings and activities. Perhaps that romance is cool.. I don't know.
My first playthrough was with a human Inquisitor.
Now, on my second playthrough as a dwarf, I found the scene where Cass leads him up the stairs at Skyhold to officially name him Inquisitor to be so much more inspiring and heartwarming with a dwarven Inquisitor.
Lace Harding. 
I'm so sorry, that name is just...adorable. I wonder if they translated it in the french version. Dentelle Harding. I'd actually love it! 
Not sure she's the type to take over Leliana's job.
She's lived out in the wilds her whole life, she's an excellent scout...not the makings of an excellent spymaster. Only person I could think of that could ever fill her role (that we know, anyway) is Varric, really.
Varric certainly has his own network of spies and could do the job, but he seems to be deciding between writing a novel or helping rebuild the devastation in the Free Marches (the latter of which my Lavellan encourages, since he can write his novel afterwards), so I don't imagine he would consider filling the role (particularly since he mentions worrying too much about the people and their families).
Not sure she's the type to take over Leliana's job.
She's lived out in the wilds her whole life, she's an excellent scout...not the makings of an excellent spymaster. Only person I could think of that could ever fill her role (that we know, anyway) is Varric, really.
Wow, just wanted to say that's probably the best elven female I've seen so far. Your avatar I mean.
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TEWR'S post is great and covers a lot of my thoughts.
The lack of meaningful dialogue in the Templar-Mage conflict is incredibly frustrating. Cadash's entire background revolves around lyrium, and they don't get any special dialogue or knowledge of it. I mean, before the game came out, in the thread some of us were worried that there would be too much focus on that and not enough on other dwarven lore, which is hilarious considering how it worked out. We even get some cool revelations about lyrium in this game, and Cadash doesn't get to react or say anything.
The lack of meaningful exploration of what it means to be a dwarf who is the Herald of Andraste is frustrating. Remember in Origins when Brosca/Aeducan could talk to Chantry sisters about dwarves place in Andrastrianism? Why is that kind of content not in this game, where it's more relevant? Why does it just end with "how can a dwarf be Herald of Andraste", asked by NPCs? Why can't we ask that, and have a meaningful conversation...idk, maybe with Giselle? They haven't shied away from those kind of theological dialogues before, so why not when the entire game is a theological dialogue?
Or what it means to be a dwarf who enters the Fade? Dwarves are cut off from the Fade, fullstop. They don't dream in the fade and they don't have magic, and now we have a character who defies both of those "facts", and it is barely acknowledged, even by Solas or Dagna and completely ignored by the PC.
Or what it means to be a former criminal outcast who leads a righteous religious faction? I mean, that's huge. I would have loved to have seen Cadash really have to deal with the Carta--because they aren't idiots, they would grab that opportunity and look to exploit it. These concepts are tossed out by Josie and Dorian but ignored in the larger PC's narrative.
Or what it means to be Andrastrian and a dwarf? Like TEWR said, there's no room for reformation in the game, no room for examining how faith changes and people diverge in beliefs and take ideas from their own culture and mix them into their faith. Ironically, the best example of this is the joke song Andrastre's Mabari....because it shows how Fereldan has incorporated something important to them into a religion they joined.
And there are so many things in the smaller narratives too, like, why does Cadash--the reformed criminal-- not have special dialogue with Blackwall after the revelation? Why can't Cadash, a street level criminal, understand what Sera, a street level criminal, is offering when she is recruited? Why does Bianca explain lyrium smuggling and the Deep Roads and the Merchants Guild to Cadash?
The reactivity is just weak and shallow a lot of the time, imo. This is a pretty critical post, and I want to stress that I love the game, but I had to fill in a lot of the blanks myself.
Thank you. Ultimately, I agree with you more than want to fight.
Like I said.. I like real vision in storytelling. Not stuff like this. I'm not a bad guy for lashing out.. perhaps my approach sucks though, I don't know. The way people are so proud, despite all of it, does provoke me to be that way, I guess.
Kinda hope Harding doesn't take over spymaster duties if/when Leliana leaves, be it because she's Divine, just quits, runs off to the Warden as she planned in that kind of world-state, etc etc.
Cause I'm firmly in the 'Harding for dwarf companion next game' boat, and that'd probably remove her from candidacy. :S
I actually greatly prefer the male American voice to the male British voice, to be honest. If anything, I thought the British voice was flatter, though I do wonder sometimes if that has more to do with how I'm playing my Dalish versus my dwarf and qunari, who are both more on the snarky side. Plus I can't picture Dorn with anything other than dat bass. Haven't done a female qunari or dwarf run yet, so I haven't had the chance to develop an opinion on her voice. Considering rolling a female qunari for Sera, so perhaps I'll get a chance then.
Now, on my second playthrough as a dwarf, I found the scene where Cass leads him up the stairs at Skyhold to officially name him Inquisitor to be so much more inspiring and heartwarming with a dwarven Inquisitor.
I'm inclined to agree, though I played a dwarf first and a human third, so that might be simply "new game, fresh scene" bias talking, aheh.
I'm not sure if I can see Harding as replacing Leliana. I think she's a great scout and can be ruthless if need be, but I haven't seen enough of her to gague if she'd be good as a head of command and all the extra organization it entails. I imagine she leads her groups of scouts now, but that's very different from managing an entire organization of spies and scouts and intel.
Thank you. Ultimately, I agree with you more than want to fight.
Like I said.. I like real vision in storytelling. Not stuff like this. I'm not a bad guy for lashing out.. perhaps my approach sucks, I don't know. The way people are so proud, despite all of it, does provoke me to be that way, I guess.
And perhaps we can leave it there for one night? At least till tomorrow, lol. This was quite a lot of time wasted on the subject.
Wow, just wanted to say that's probably the best elven female I've seen so far. Your avatar I mean.
Ey, thanks. It took a lot of grueling nitpicking over features and restarting, but I'm rather content now. :3
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And perhaps we can leave it there for one night?
I agree. Veeia says more than I could anyways.
Ey, thanks. It took a lot of grueling nitpicking over features and restarting, but I'm rather content now. :3
Yes, your qunari was great, and now so is your elf.
I went British with my dwarves and American with my elf and human.
I just picked the voice that worked best with the character, tbh, I wasn't trying to be a special snowflake there.
My lady dwarf is way too reactionary and emotional for the American voice, and my male dwarf is a dirtbag cocky jokester, so the British voice fit him perfectly. My elven lady was a more pragmatic, militant type so American worked perfectly with her, and my human male is Big Tex so there was no question on the VA there.
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My first playthrough was with a human Inquisitor.
Now, on my second playthrough as a dwarf, I found the scene where Cass leads him up the stairs at Skyhold to officially name him Inquisitor to be so much more inspiring and heartwarming with a dwarven Inquisitor.
If it was a human noble. I understand. Their story isn't any more fleshed out than dwarves. They just have the benefit of being relevant.
It's more compelling as a mage. Because this game isn't about examining race relations. On a race level, that special moment you see has nothing to do with anything else in the story.
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I actually greatly prefer the male American voice to the male British voice, to be honest. If anything, I thought the British voice was flatter, though I do wonder sometimes if that has more to do with how I'm playing my Dalish versus my dwarf and qunari, who are both more on the snarky side. Plus I can't picture Dorn with anything other than dat bass.
I'm inclined to agree, though I played a dwarf first and a human third, so that might be simply "new game, fresh scene" bias talking, aheh.
I'm not sure if I can see Harding as replacing Leliana. I think she's a great scout and can be ruthless if need be, but I haven't seen enough of her to gague if she'd be good as a head of command and all the extra organization it entails. I imagine she leads her groups of scouts now, but that's very different from managing an entire organization of spies and scouts and intel.
I'm using the female American voice for Zhenya, and I may try the American voice when I create my male Cadash, I haven't decided. If I do a second female dwarf, she'll get the British voice because I really have liked her so far. My Dalish both got the British voice.
I went British with my dwarves and American with my elf and human.
I just picked the voice that worked best with the character, tbh, I wasn't trying to be a special snowflake there.
My lady dwarf is way too reactionary and emotional for the American voice, and my male dwarf is a dirtbag cocky jokester, so the British voice fit him perfectly. My elven lady was a more pragmatic, militant type so American worked perfectly with her, and my human male is Big Tex so there was no question on the VA there.
Which is why it's nice they put the option in for players to decide despite defaults, I think. Myself, while I realize I can come up with plausible reasons why a surfacer dwarf might sound more like a Free Marchers human or a Dalish elf might sound more American akin to how they did in DAO... I've yet to see a dwarf or qunari with a British accent and the inconsistency would just bug me, personally. So I've no problem with the defaults. I am really liking the female British voice on my human though, it's only the male one that's left me kinda "blah" so far... though, I'm having trouble getting attached to my elves and keep remaking them, so that might be part of it. I haven't found one that fully feels "right" just yet.
I'll be going with the british voice for a dwarf. What I was going to do last time.
A snarky dwarven brit is too good to resist.
Yes, your qunari was great, and now so is your elf.
Thanks, I'll probably take a stab at a dwarf again soon after my first attempt ended with jarring beard-jaw graphical issues, we'll see how that goes. Creating decent male characters seems to be something that evades me, after all my attempts. :S
StreetMagic, what do you think the game is about then? Serious question! I am honestly baffled as to why people keep saying it's best suited for a mage.
I actually feared that a bit going in, but the M/Tconflict is resolved quickly, and from my perspective...really didn't have satisfactory reactivity to a mage character, unless Trev gets a ton of special dialogue options that Lavellan/Adaar doesnt....
I feel like the game is about faith. Through the lens of Andrastrianism, yes, but faith, not anything to do with magic.
TEWR'S post is great and covers a lot of my thoughts.
The lack of meaningful dialogue in the Templar-Mage conflict is incredibly frustrating. Cadash's entire background revolves around lyrium, and they don't get any special dialogue or knowledge of it. I mean, before the game came out, in the thread some of us were worried that there would be too much focus on that and not enough on other dwarven lore, which is hilarious considering how it worked out. We even get some cool revelations about lyrium in this game, and Cadash doesn't get to react or say anything.
The lack of meaningful exploration of what it means to be a dwarf who is the Herald of Andraste is frustrating. Remember in Origins when Brosca/Aeducan could talk to Chantry sisters about dwarves place in Andrastrianism? Why is that kind of content not in this game, where it's more relevant? Why does it just end with "how can a dwarf be Herald of Andraste", asked by NPCs? Why can't we ask that, and have a meaningful conversation...idk, maybe with Giselle? They haven't shied away from those kind of theological dialogues before, so why not when the entire game is a theological dialogue?
Or what it means to be a dwarf who enters the Fade? Dwarves are cut off from the Fade, fullstop. They don't dream in the fade and they don't have magic, and now we have a character who defies both of those "facts", and it is barely acknowledged, even by Solas or Dagna and completely ignored by the PC.
Or what it means to be a former criminal outcast who leads a righteous religious faction? I mean, that's huge. I would have loved to have seen Cadash really have to deal with the Carta--because they aren't idiots, they would grab that opportunity and look to exploit it. These concepts are tossed out by Josie and Dorian but ignored in the larger PC's narrative.
Or what it means to be Andrastrian and a dwarf? Like TEWR said, there's no room for reformation in the game, no room for examining how faith changes and people diverge in beliefs and take ideas from their own culture and mix them into their faith. Ironically, the best example of this is the joke song Andrastre's Mabari....because it shows how Fereldan has incorporated something important to them into a religion they joined.
And there are so many things in the smaller narratives too, like, why does Cadash--the reformed criminal-- not have special dialogue with Blackwall after the revelation? Why can't Cadash, a street level criminal, understand what Sera, a street level criminal, is offering when she is recruited? Why does Bianca explain lyrium smuggling and the Deep Roads and the Merchants Guild to Cadash?
The reactivity is just weak and shallow a lot of the time, imo. This is a pretty critical post, and I want to stress that I love the game, but I had to fill in a lot of the blanks myself.
Well said. You elaborated on the points I touched upon briefly very well, better then I could've done I feel. I had even forgotten a few of the things mentioned, like how Bianca explains the lyrium smuggling operations rather then us being able to say "Are these sodding nuglickers daft?!" upon seeing the lyrium being carted around without containers.
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