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[LobselVith8]

Kinda hope Harding doesn't take over spymaster duties if/when Leliana leaves, be it because she's Divine, just quits, runs off to the Warden as she planned in that kind of world-state, etc etc. 

 

Cause I'm firmly in the 'Harding for dwarf companion next game' boat, and that'd probably remove her from candidacy. :S

 

It wouldn't be the first time it's transpired (Merrill, Isabela, Cullen), so I could see that happen with Harding, who seems to have gotten a very positive reception from fans (and a dwarf romance option is long overdue).

[Catwall]

Goodness, I hope Harding does make a return as an LI ( I hope for ladies and gents, please?) She's an epic cutie pie.

[Merela]

More dwarven love, NSFW edition.

 

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I wish Varric had not stolen all the chesthair.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

It wouldn't be the first time it's transpired (Merrill, Isabela, Cullen), so I could see that happen with Harding, who seems to have gotten a very positive reception from fans (and a dwarf romance option is long overdue).

 

I'm still kinda convinced Harding was, like, the proto-dwarf romance. Testing the waters to see if it could work. Prodding for reactions and all that. An experiment, a prototype. 

 

I, for one, am pleased to have participated in this experiment, BioWare. Now feel free to give it a go, I say. :3

[DalishRanger]

Well said. You elaborated on the points I touched upon briefly very well. I had even forgotten a few of the things mentioned, like how Bianca explains the lyrium smuggling operations rather then us being able to say "Are these sodding nuglickers daft?!" upon seeing the lyrium being carted around without containers.

 

I recently came across that last night on my replay and facepalmed when Dorn asked why they needed sealed containers. I couldn't stop thinking, "YOU'VE BEEN SMUGGLING LYRIUM YOUR WHOLE LIFE, HOW IS THIS NEWS TO YOU?" Not a huge deal but... yeah, the little details count and it would've been nice to have a dwarf-specific option there, kind of like when you could recruit Riz (Rits? Ritz? The missing scout woman) with Cadash-exclusive text. In fact, that and maybe one other time are the only instances where I saw specifically marked unique dwarf dialogue. I don't mean things like "A dwarf stands for us all" so much as ones that give criminal/Carta unique dialogue even if you don't have the Underworld perk. Did anyone notice other points where it came up?

 

Edit: I have to second the Well said too, veeia. It's more apparent when replaying Dorn what missed opportunities there are. While it was nice that it was recognized I was a dwarf in passing here and there, playing a reforming criminal who is an agnostic founded in the current problems of the present, but open to questioning spiritual matters, a discussion on the oddities of being in the Fade, their place in Andrasteanism, etc - would have been very relevant and much, much more engaging than the glossing over that we get instead.

[Catwall]

More dwarven love, NSFW edition.

 

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I wish Varric had not stolen all the chesthair.

I'm still in chargen with my second lady Cadash, and now you're tempting me to start over yet again to make a male Cadash even sooner than I had planned. I love this dilemma!

[Tishina]

It wouldn't be the first time it's transpired (Merrill, Isabela, Cullen), so I could see that happen with Harding, who seems to have gotten a very positive reception from fans (and a dwarf romance option is long overdue).

That's my main reason to hope she doesn't take Lel's place. She's good at what she does, but I see her best suited for out in the field rather than managing a network. That's more Varric's thing.

 

Edit: I should add that I'd be thrilled if they added her as a future LI, she's one of the best NPCs they've written, IMO, the dwarven beauty is just a bonus.

[sandalisthemaker]

 

Thanks, I'll probably take a stab at a dwarf again soon after my first attempt ended with jarring beard-jaw graphical issues, we'll see how that goes. Creating decent male characters seems to be something that evades me, after all my attempts. :S

 

Certain face shapes really do make the moustache portion of the beards all wonky. The face shape I prefer is usually compatible with the beards, though. 

 

For my guy, I used head #3 (the one with no eyebrows and a bushy black beard lol ) and then set the face shape to the 6th one and went from there.  The mouth tends to be protruding in a lot of the presets, which makes the moustaches even worse, so make sure you bring the mouth closer to the rest of the face.

 

Good luck.

[Tishina]

More dwarven love, NSFW edition.

 

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I wish Varric had not stolen all the chesthair.

One of the modders was explaining earlier that they're using a single skin texture for all the characters (or something close to that). So they can't mod one without modding them all. Beards are apparently a separate thing, I guess, and maybe Varric has some special overlay? I need to remember to ask next time it comes up.

[TEWR]

More dwarven love, NSFW edition.

 

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I wish Varric had not stolen all the chesthair.

 

I reject the idea of no Dwarven chest hair for Nasir.

[DalishRanger]

One of the modders was explaining earlier that they're using a single skin texture for all the characters (or something close to that). So they can't mod one without modding them all. Beards are apparently a separate thing, I guess, and maybe Varric has some special overlay? I need to remember to ask next time it comes up.

 

Considering we never see Varric naked, I imagine his chest hair is likely a skin overlay of his armor sets.

[DalishRanger]

Exactly that, yes. Saw the Ken and Barbie nudes in the mods before, got a good laugh. Even the nude models are just general "armors" for each race and gender, shared by all. The characters' models are what they are because they're assigned exclusively to that character through coding, in an oversimplified nutshell.

 

Edit: Based on my (intermediate at best, granted) understanding of model/mesh and texture modding and the general architecture of DA games, including Inquisition, to give any Inquisitor a unique body mod that didn't automatically give all dwarven males chest hair when nude (for example), you'd have to create a whole new texture and model ID assigned as a different "armor" and set it to be used at certain points. Not sure if that's possible or if only texture recolors are doable right now, though.

[TEWR]

We should all just ask each other questions about our Dwarves.

 

In the spirit of this post, here's a question for you folks: What's your Dwarf's stance on being a part of the Carta?

 

Nasir was only doing it as a means to survive. He never much cared for being a mercenary and smuggler or a criminal, even though he was good at it. He led a company during the Blight and in fact traveled down to Ferelden to meet the Darkspawn head-on (and oversee some lyrium deals with Rogek after word hit the Cadash syndicate that he was back in business) and that's where he met my DN, Leliana, Shale, and a few other people in my 10 Wardens and Companions WS. And after meeting my DN, he was offered a position as the Left Hand of the King, essentially. He took it because it seemed more honorable then being a Carta thug all his life... along with how my DN stirred some passions Nasir never really knew he had, in regards to Dwarves.

 

 

Lawd, every time this 'You're just trying to be different!' crap starts, I just...take it away for me, Dorian.

 

 

Ugh.

 

I must know where and how he says this.

[Gilsa]

I recently came across that last night on my replay and facepalmed when Dorn asked why they needed sealed containers. I couldn't stop thinking, "YOU'VE BEEN SMUGGLING LYRIUM YOUR WHOLE LIFE, HOW IS THIS NEWS TO YOU?" Not a huge deal but... yeah, the little details count and it would've been nice to have a dwarf-specific option there, kind of like when you could recruit Riz (Rits? Ritz? The missing scout woman) with Cadash-exclusive text. In fact, that and maybe one other time are the only instances where I saw specifically marked unique dwarf dialogue. I don't mean things like "A dwarf stands for us all" so much as ones that give criminal/Carta unique dialogue even if you don't have the Underworld perk. Did anyone notice other points where it came up?

 

Off the top of my head, Flissa in the Haven bar will be nervous when the dwarf walks in and fumble over her words about how they failed to support the dwarves when the darkspawn attacked, go dwarves and Stone rah rah, and the Inquisitor can put her at ease with three different responses (one dialogue branch will mention Orzammar).

 

I will have to ponder on where else I've run into these scenarios.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I must know where and how he says this.

 

Meeting Bull in Redcliffe, as I recall.

 

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[Tishina]

Exactly that, yes. Saw the Ken and Barbie nudes in the mods before, got a good laugh. Even the nude models are just general "armors" for each race and gender, shared by all. The characters' models are what they are because they're assigned exclusively to that character through coding, in an oversimplified nutshell.

 

Edit: Based on my (intermediate at best, granted) understanding of model/mesh and texture modding and the general architecture of DA games, including Inquisition, to give any Inquisitor a unique body mod that didn't automatically give all dwarven males chest hair when nude (for example), you'd have to create a whole new texture and model ID assigned as a different "armor" and set it to be used at certain points. Not sure if that's possible or if only texture recolors are doable right now, though.

That makes sense.

[Tishina]

Off the top of my head, Flissa in the Haven bar will be nervous when the dwarf walks in and fumble over her words about how they failed to support the dwarves when the darkspawn attacked, go dwarves and Stone rah rah, and the Inquisitor can put her at ease with three different responses (one dialogue branch will mention Orzammar).

 

I will have to ponder on where else I've run into these scenarios.

I think there was a remark or two by Blackwall about the dwarf's background, but I don't know if that's romanced only.

[TEWR]

Funny, Nasir didn't have that Flissa comment in his meeting with her on my second playthrough. He got it the first time but she was just like "Oh hello there" this time.

[DalishRanger]

I think there was a remark or two by Blackwall about the dwarf's background, but I don't know if that's romanced only.

 

He did reference it at a few points in Dorn's plays, yes. More so than any other companion or adviser, even (Josie's questions about your background where you can fill in details nonwithstanding).

 

And oh yeah, I do remember the Flissa one now. Just can't think of many times I saw the dwarf icon in conversation and I could make special dwarf or Carta related commentary. To be fair, I didn't see a lot for my qunari or elf either, but I've seen more for my elf about 1/3 through the game than I did for all of Dorn's.

[Tishina]

OK, a few shots of Zhenya, none of them great. I think I need to turn off blood spatters when I want photos

 

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[veeia]

Faith, yes. But also mages/templars, how one relates to Corypheus as well (also about faith and magic's place in it). I see it as a final bookend to Anders' view of magic and Asunder.. and who the Inquisitor is in relation and response to that..

 

The champion of racial relations angle just comes off out of left field.. like a side story, trying to force it's way as the main story.

 

I think the game is about who the Inquisitor is in relation to Corypheus, yes. I'm not sure what you mean by "magic's place in it" though. My reading of it is that it's about how faith is something that always requires uncertainty....which is something Cory couldn't handle, and Quizzie has to. Cass's storyline does a much better job of laying this out than Quizzie's, but I think that's a side effect of how the theme only works if you play as a strong Andrastrian believer. Quizzie--even if they were only human-- is allowed a full spectrum of beliefs, so this can't be as reinforced as it is with her. 

 

The magical themes in the book are a continuation of DA2 and Asunder, yes, but they aren't and have never been just about mages. Magic affects everyone, and on a deeper level, it's not really about magic. It's about freedom and control and how we treat people when we fear them. In DA:I, it moves away from this, because really the M-T quest isn't asking us who is "right." or "who we should side with"  It gives us reasons beyond morality to side with them and then tries to show us that both went too far, and the initial conflict is set aside for a new one. It's asking us "what do we do with a group of people who became so fanatical that they were led astray?"...it's coming back to faith, again. What do we do with faith that's been twisted? Can we have faith in these flawed people? Would it be worth the cost? 

 

And huge parts of the game like Orlais, the Grey Wardens, and the Well of Sorrows didn't really have a huge connection to a mage PC. I think some of this may be your own bias, if you're someone who naturally gravitates towards the mage-centric ideas in the games? 

 

As for the champion of the racial relations....not sure what you mean there. In fandom? Because the game really doesn't support that as a narrative anymore than Origins did. Quizzie doesn't work for dwarves, she works to save everyone. There's a small side effect, seen really only in a few minor NPCS, where it challenges people's assumptions of what dwarves are, but that's tiny and isn't really carried out in any meaningful way. But it's natural for people to be attracted to want to further explore that angle in their posting and headcanons, since it's a present but only partially explored aspect. 

 

...I'm sorry if this conversation is annoying to people here, but I often find it's through disagreements that I sort out my thoughts better. I'll try to post more silly dwarf stuff later, hehe. 

[Gilsa]

I think there was a remark or two by Blackwall about the dwarf's background, but I don't know if that's romanced only.

 

Nah, all dwarves get the "you are who you choose to follow" conversation with Blackwall with special Cadash dialogues at the onset. The only difference for a dwarf romance is the addition of the heart option "I hope you don't think less of me for it" to the other three standard replies. Once he gets into the story about the chevalier, it's the same conversation for all races. Non-romanced get him regretting and wondering what might have been. Romanced get him NOT regretting and saying he would have never met the Inquisitor otherwise. I need a moment to go fan myself now.