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[TEWR]

Fair enough. 

 

I'm just saying.. it's just not the dwarven dream game you guys make it out to be. It's extremely half-assed. Contrary to what some think, I wish they did make something like that. With all dwarven companions, like the Hobbit or something. edit: maybe not all... but a majority

 

Of course it isn't. We're not saying that the game, as is, is what it should be or that it's a dream come true. We're making it our own dream come true for our own stories.

 

That's why I talk so much about my world-state. It's never going to be something Bioware will do. But it is something I can build off of.

 

Origins wasn't exactly all that better, at least to me. I ended up studying the lore of the Dwarves and found that the justification given to you for why you can't reclaim your title as a DN was... actually rather contrived, because you absolutely could retake the throne. There were so many historical precedents that a DN could build off of and combine to allow them to succeed, to say nothing of cultural precedents.

[sandalisthemaker]

Just looks like defiant pride to me. And overcompensating. Little sincerity.

 

And this just looks like petty trolling to me.

 

We are making the most of what we were given and enriching our experience through background and headcanon. 

[Tishina]

I loved that we could fluster Josephine by giving her a taste of Cadash's ruthless past if we so choose. 

 

My Frederick was all, "Yeeeeeah..... I was hoping this would stay under wraps, but if you insist, I've murdered, stolen, murdered, smuggled, and murdered."

 

Josephine:  ........ Let's not speak of this evar!!1!

 

Lol.

It's why I have such a hard time imagining romancing Josie with one of my Carta girls. Seriously, they'd need a translator standing by at all times.

[Zetrial]

Fair enough. 

 

I'm just saying.. it's just not the dwarven dream game you guys make it out to be. It's extremely half-assed. Contrary to what some think, I wish they did make something like that. With all dwarven companions, like the Hobbit or something. edit: maybe not all... but a majority

 

The whole game comes across as half-assed at times, the scope too large. They could of done better in many many many ways, not just Dwarfs. It doesn't mean those of us whom like parts of it cannot enjoy those parts despite what flaws may be present.

 

[veeia]

I would love it if we could play a hella manipulative dirtbag Carta thug who turned the Inquisition into her own personal multinational religious scam, but the game just doesn't support that morality...not for any character, tbh.

Like I would love to also have a disgruntled angry power mad mage Trev who was like YOU WANNA CONTROL ME? I'll CONTROL YOU ALL!!! I DECLARE MYSELF BLACK DIVINE, BIYOTCHES, TEVINTER HAS IT RIGHT...COME AT ME BRO IM ANDRASTRES CHOSEN YALL CANT TOUCH THIS while Dorian greatly disapproves in the distance.

...but again, the game doesn't support that kind of morality. So it goes. Not the story they wanted to tell, I respect it.

[sandalisthemaker]

It's not petty. 

 

I deleted my own human noble because it sucks. lol. It's annoying to see so much pride in something just as crappy... or crappier. 

 

Hell, maybe I'm jealous and don't even realize it. Where does someone find the capacity for this?

 

Sounds like you have some issues to work out.

[Tishina]

And this just looks like petty trolling to me.

 

We are making the most of what we were given and enriching our experience through background and headcanon. 

Exactly. Don't feed whatever the issue is.

 

Headcannon is almost always required to actually RP ANY race/class/gender combo. I've had no trouble coming up with backgrounds and personalities for dwarves and elves to fit as Inquisitor. I find the game actually does more to shut out the personalities of the only humans I might have played. The only way around headcannoning some of it is to try to make your PC behave exactly the way you think the writers want them to behave, let them tell you exactly who your PC is. Which isn't really role playing IMHO, and certainly has no appeal to me.

[TEWR]

Hey now, Nasir's actions aren't geared to simply the lyrium trade... they're geared to Orzammar's the Dwarves' prosperity.

 

You think too small man.

 

Whoops my mind slipped up, I meant the Dwarves' prosperity, not Orzammar's. Ultimately my Aeducan wants to rekindle relations with Kal-Sharok and bring the Dwarves back in control of the Deep Roads, and my Cadash is helping him with that.

[Zetrial]

At this point though, I think DG is in your camp. I spoke to him about some probs and flexibility issues with human noble.

 

His answer. "Just make up your own backstory."

 

It just doesn't even matter anymore. It's more like TES.

 

Which will always be a problem with any RPG that allows player choice, you haven't lived that characters life nor seen every moment of it. So you will have to transplant some of yourself into them, give them reasoning to speak a certain way, act a certain way, make certain choices. It sounds like you could just be burning out on this sub genre of RPG and need something more akin to a railroaded rpg like a final fantasy.

[veeia]

Exactly. Don't feed whatever the issue is.

Headcannon is almost always required to actually RP ANY race/class/gender combo. I've had no trouble coming up with backgrounds and personalities for dwarves and elves to fit as Inquisitor. I find the game actually does more to shut out the personalities of the only humans I might have played. The only way around headcannoning some of it is to try to make your PC behave exactly the way you think the writers want them to behave, let them tell you exactly who your PC is. Which isn't really role playing IMHO, and certainly has no appeal to me.

Yup. I couldn't come up with a human character I wanted to play because I couldn't find any way to make them not seem like an arrogant, privileged, colonialist assholes and then I went "wait, what if he was??" and Big Tex was born from that.

How well DA: I works for any particular person playing any race or class or whatever is going to vary so much depending on their personal beliefs and priorities...and obviously the way they prefer to play RPGs. I know people who prefer the more solid protagonist, and I respect that, but I really want something more fluid, so while DA:I is not perfect for me, it's good enough to spark the kind of game playing experience I like to have. It's a mess, but messes are fun to play with. I will always take something frustratingly messy and ambitious over something elegant and simple. But that's just me, and other people are different.

[veeia]

Why young and female? That's oddly specific.

[thesuperdarkone2]

I always enjoy playing the unlikely hero. That's why I made an Orc in Morrowind, a Khajiit in Oblivion, and an Argonian in Skyrim. My main canon characters in Inquisition are a Qunari mage and Dwarf warrior. What race I'll make canon will depend on the next game.

[veeia]

Khajiits rule. May you walk on warm sands, etc.

[sandalisthemaker]

I always enjoy playing the unlikely hero. That's why I made an Orc in Morrowind, a Khajiit in Oblivion, and an Argonian in Skyrim. My main canon characters in Inquisition are a Qunari mage and Dwarf warrior. What race I'll make canon will depend on the next game.

 

*StreetMagic's head explodes*

[TEWR]

To be honest I'd say a Dwarf is very likely to be the hero of Inquisition. They have a connection to the lyrium trade, an innate resistance to magic, don't have to worry about all the **** Mages have to contend with, and if they study their arcane arts like Dagna are very well versed in magical weirdness just as much as any mage -- possibly even more so, as we see how the Chantry stifles creative magical thought.

 

A mage is a mage is a mage. Those are a dime a dozen. If you're an Elven Mage you have maybe a greater shot at being the hero the Inquisition needs, but even so, that's all due to hindsight based on story revelations.

[sandalisthemaker]

To be honest I'd say a Dwarf is very likely to be the hero of Inquisition. They have a connection to the lyrium trade, an innate resistance to magic, don't have to worry about all the **** Mages have to contend with, and if they study their arcane arts like Dagna are very well versed in magical weirdness just as much as any mage -- possibly even more so, as we see how the Chantry stifles creative magical thought.

 

Could you imagine if Cadash Inquisitor became part of BioWare's default Inquisition world state.