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[Catwall]

I always enjoy playing the unlikely hero. That's why I made an Orc in Morrowind, a Khajiit in Oblivion, and an Argonian in Skyrim. My main canon characters in Inquisition are a Qunari mage and Dwarf warrior. What race I'll make canon will depend on the next game.

Aw yiss! Sneaking through Daggerfall as a Khajiit was one of the best experiences of my gaming life. I don't really "get" people who are adamant about policing other people's RP choices and/or reinforcing the status quo. I would say "whatever makes them happy," but they never actually seem happy, lol. Just uncomfortable that somebody is having fun wrong.

[Tishina]

OK, shalrokas, I'm off to sleep. Remember, this is a friendly thread about dwarves, etc.

[Zetrial]

It's more than that.

 

 

Consider that some people have been fans of the Chantry since the beginning. To have it all explode and just get reformed by anyone is sad. It makes the person who actually gave a damn feel worthless. That no matter how much you care, you're the same as the person who doesn't. One's personal investment or efforts meant nothing.. you're the same hero either way.

 

Yet it doesn't have to be, you have a choice, you can play a Human and rebuild it exactly as it was. Other people having a choice to tear it down while playing an Elf, Qunari or Dwarf won't affect your Human playthrough beyond a feeling of self importance and entitlement.

I can understand being frustrated at things that don't fit or feel right, the Human noble background with an older character being a prime example, it feels wrong for me as well, as such I don't play it. Does it mean I spend all my time complaining to those that enjoy a young PC that it doesn't fit the canon I want, no, I find something else that will fit for me and I can enjoy.

The way you are acting at times is that of a LOTR fan going onto a GOT fan forum, complaining that the paper the book was printed on could of been used for a copy of LOTR, that it was wasted having GOT printed on it. You are going out of your way to create an issue. LOTR or GOT or both is all personal opinion and rather than discussing merits or flaws of each, you just come across bitter that there wasn't another copy of LOTR floating about.

You're thoughts and opinions are very much valid to yourself and others, but venting them here doesn't add anything constructive to the topic people come here to discuss and enjoy and merely serves to derail the enjoyment others seek here.

[Cespar]

My main canon is going to be  either Cassandra as divine or Leliana, especially if she wants to allow all the races to be able to join the chantry. That's something that I always wanted to see in Thedas. Since I like the dwarves and the chantry, and Leliana seems like the best to bring those two things together. But I don't want to be selfish, which means keeping Cassandra from becoming divine so she doesn't break up with my character, but I'm undecided at this moment. I'll probably let fate decided,  .

[TEWR]

 Out of curiosity, when does Josephine probe you on your character's history/beliefs?

Could you imagine if Cadash Inquisitor became part of BioWare's default Inquisition world state. 

 

I'm thinking that's what they'll do. Dalish Elf for DAO, Human for DAII, Dwarf for DA3, and then if DA4 sees us in Tevinter/Rivain, then Qunari.

[veeia]

My canon PT is Hella, and she got hardened Leli as Divine, which is just such a beautiful disaster (and keeps with Hella's overall aesthetic of being a beautiful disaster) so I'm pretty happy with that. 

 

Honestly I'm not too crazy about the whole Divine choice anyway. It doesn't feel that meaningful to me, because the set-up twists my suspension of disbelief too much and the pay-off is pretty thin and also I don't really think Bioware will make it that matter that much the future anyway lmao soooooo....I don't really angst over it, just get excited to see who it will be depending on my choices because I still have no idea how it works (yes I read the thread, no I still don't get it, yes I'm a bit daft) and its like, the only real surprise in the end game after the first PT. I suspect when I do Olim's Cassmance, I'll be a bit more engaged with the plot...his Dorian run ended up having Cass as Divine so. o.O 

 

Poor Olim. Dorian's running off to Tevinter and Cass is gonna dump his ass for Andraste. Can't catch a break, even when he has two LI. 

[sandalisthemaker]

My canon PT is Hella, and she got hardened Leli as Divine, which is just such a beautiful disaster (and keeps with Hella's overall aesthetic of being a beautiful disaster) so I'm pretty happy with that. 

 

Honestly I'm not too crazy about the whole Divine choice anyway. It doesn't feel that meaningful to me, because the set-up twists my suspension of disbelief too much and the pay-off is pretty thin and also I don't really think Bioware will make it that matter that much the future anyway lmao soooooo....I don't really angst over it, just get excited to see who it will be depending on my choices because I still have no idea how it works (yes I read the thread, no I still don't get it, yes I'm a bit daft) and its like, the only real surprise in the end game after the first PT. I suspect when I do Olim's Cassmance, I'll be a bit more engaged with the plot...his Dorian run ended up having Cass as Divine so. o.O 

 

Poor Olim. Dorian's running off to Tevinter and Cass is gonna dump his ass for Andraste. Can't catch a break, even when he has two LI. 

 

Dorian ran away to Tevinter?

 

He stayed with my Trevelyan because "there's no you in Tevinter."

 

I hope he stays with my Cadash.

[veeia]

Lmao, well, he didn't run off immediately, but I got the ending where Dorian still plans to leave...eventually...but he's dawdling...

That fit his and Olim's relationship well, tbh, but I have no idea what I did to trigger it.

[veeia]

Oh wait. I think when Dorian said he was going to leave, Olim supported him without asking him to stay, maybe you choose the "but I need you here?" option?

[sandalisthemaker]

Oh wait. I think when Dorian said he was going to leave, Olim supported him without asking him to stay, maybe you choose the "but I need you here?" option?

 

My memory is fuzzy on the dialogue options. I don't remember having to ask him to stay.  I could be wrong though. His approval was maxed out (to the point where he was no longer approving of actions that he should have been by the time I reached the Temple of Mythal). Maybe that has something to do with it?

[thesuperdarkone2]

Well Dorian's staying for Iron Bull in my game. LOL

[Gilsa]

To be honest I'd say a Dwarf is very likely to be the hero of Inquisition. They have a connection to the lyrium trade, an innate resistance to magic, don't have to worry about all the **** Mages have to contend with, and if they study their arcane arts like Dagna are very well versed in magical weirdness just as much as any mage -- possibly even more so, as we see how the Chantry stifles creative magical thought.

 

 

Oh, hey, is that another special Cadash/crow dialogue now that I think about it? I remember the Inquisitor telling the war table she'll reach out to her contacts to secure some extra lyrium for the mage/templars that they just sided with. And then when you exit the war table, there's Josephine talking with a dwarf outside of her office about getting extra lyrium. I never knew if that was related to Cadash's commentary or played out regardless for all races.

 

 Out of curiosity, when does Josephine probe you on your character's history/beliefs?

 

Once you arrive in Haven and finish talking with the war table, the first conversation with Josephine is with that masked Orlesian protesting about his lands being used for the Inquisition. You will need to do something after that -- fast travel somewhere or maybe complete a quest -- to get the next conversation to start. That's the history/beliefs one.

[sandalisthemaker]

Well Dorian's staying for Iron Bull in my game. LOL

 

I've heard he does that.

[veeia]

He will also stay for you if you're his BFF. :3 he stayed with Hella.

[veeia]

It's a crow dialogue, not Cadash, iirc.

Personally I think Cadash should have started with that perk, all mages with the magic one, and Trev with the nobility one.

[Cypher0020]

So what will your quizzy's go after Inquisition?

 

I mentally headcanon that Ardris wanted to return to her family probably after she closed the Breach. I picture her having taken ship from some Free Marcher port, like Starkhaven or soemthing, in the spring or summer, getting to Fereldan in about 3 to 4 weeks.... promising to be home soon.

 

Then freakin' Coryfish shows up. Ugh.

 

My gal just wants to go home, to her family, just go back to being a hired sword

[TEWR]

Yeah, at first I thought the contacts was Cadash only, but when I saw a youtube vid of a Lavellan with that I got sad.

 

Cadash gets even less unique content then I thought.

[Gilsa]

Blah. When I reroll my canon Cadash eventually, I'm gonna skip all the knowledge perks except for crow. I thought it was kinda dumb that my thug Cadash would know who Flemeth was or have answers ready about magic, but the metagamer in me couldn't resist clicking on those icons just to see what they said. I actually want to flub through the dance with Florianne and pick all the crass answers, but I don't want her to lead the dance and twirl Cadash around like a puppet. If only I could skip the dance entirely! =p

[TEWR]

It's a crow dialogue, not Cadash, iirc.

Personally I think Cadash should have started with that perk, all mages with the magic one, and Trev with the nobility one.

 

And Qunari get a unique perk all to themselves titled "No"

[BigBad]

Honestly, I wouldn't be too surprised if Bioware made the Cadash the default world state Inquisitor for future games. After all, the default Warden is Dalish and I distinctly remember back in the day that the Dalish origin was pretty commonly considered the worst, giving the least motivation for playing politics in Ferelden and being the only origin whose starting area and origin characters do not reappear in later plotlines. (Aside from Tamlen, I guess.)

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Honestly, I wouldn't be too surprised if Bioware made the Cadash the default world state Inquisitor for future games. After all, the default Warden is Dalish and I distinctly remember back in the day that the Dalish origin was pretty commonly considered the worst, giving the least motivation for playing politics in Ferelden and being the only origin whose starting area and origin characters do not reappear in later plotlines. (Aside from Tamlen, I guess.)

 

Actually, you do revisit the starting area and meet origin characters again with the Dalish Origin. Just...in Witch Hunt and DA2. 

 

Ended up the origin with the least callbacks initially ended up being the one with the most callbacks in the long run. My canon Warden is Dalish, and I've always found playthroughs flow very nicely with a Dalish Warden, because of the sort of continuous recognition it gets throughout the series rather than just in Origins, IMO. Also made it so full Origins+all DLC runthroughs start and end in the exact same place, basically. Dat full circle. 

[TEWR]

I'm thinking I'm gonna have Nasir believe in both the Maker (or at least kinda entertain the possibility he exists.... or just say what people want to hear) but certainly I want him to have a firm belief in the Stone.

 

Problem being, I gotta figure out how to do that enough times so I get the special faith-based options surrounding Andrastianism. Specifically the Ser Ruth one.

[Gilsa]

Actually, you do revisit the starting area and meet origin characters again with the Dalish Origin. Just...in Witch Hunt and DA2. 

 

Ended up the origin with the least callbacks initially ended up being the one with the most callbacks in the long run. My canon Warden is Dalish, and I've always found playthroughs flow very nicely with a Dalish Warden, because of the sort of continuous recognition it gets throughout the series rather than just in Origins, IMO. 

 

I wonder how much of an impact Solas is going to have on this overall, if people want to go back to DAO and get the fuller Dalish experience. I've seen a couple of people express an interest in playing dwarves in origins after enjoying their Cadash game more than they expected.