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#3826
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There aren't enough hours in the day. I keep getting called away from my computer and losing my trains of thought. I wanted to touch on the conversation we had earlier about how our characters looked. As long as you love your own character, people will follow your lead. I've seen some characters (not here) that I wouldn't have looked twice at, but the posters would keep sharing pictures and making jokes and having such fun that they grew on me. There was a guy that made a human noble with way, way too strong of a chin, but he loved it and refused to change it. He had such a good attitude despite the teasing (both good and bad) and to this day, I can't remember his name, but I clearly remember his character and I think of it fondly.

 

And furthermore, there's a very helpful thread in the character creation section of the forum called "Realistic Face Proportions." You only need to read the first post. It basically breaks down the face into measurements. I've found it helpful enough that I actually got a ruler to measure my character's face and see if the eyes were at the halfway point in the head and so on. I like the features I've picked out, but the measurements give me a little more confidence in how it all comes together. Make sense?

 

Unfortunately, I have never been able to find a good guideline on dwarven facial features or how to draw a dwarf. Every time I google for something like this, the results give me those damn dwarves from Snow White. My husband dug out his D&D book (link below) and showed me a couple pictures that helped create a better visual how to create them.

 

http://www.aegisoft....dbook [OEF].pdf

Dwarves - p. 14

Elves - p. 16

 

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You can see that dwarven faces are shorter, wider, and rounder with strong jawlines. With the elves, the faces are slimmer and have longer features. They both compliment the bodies they're designed to fit on. If anyone has seen a good guide or has a better link, I absolutely would love to get my hands on that. (Especially female ones!)


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#3827
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TEWR, I think I know who you're talking about, she's a friend of mine and I've seen you on her blog before! (Prob def best not to link haha, if it's that person)

I love what, if we are talking about the same person, she's done with her Hawke and Warden in her Inquisition canon, it's so fun to read about. I'm still weirdly fixated on shoving together existing pieces for my "canon", but seeing her stuff (and others, including yours!) is really exciting and interesting and oddly liberating for me, even though I don't feel the pull to do it (at this moment)

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So what are everyone's HOF's up to right now?

 

She returned to Orzammar with Gorim so I imagine that -- apart from Grey Warden business -- she's reviewing maps of the Deep Roads and looking for ways to beat back the darkspawn threat, try to reclaim a thiag or two along the way. Harrowmont was supposed to die back in DAO, but since that's clearly not happening, I imagine she's been gone on GW business long enough for him to declare her dead at this point.

 

And honestly, before we found out that we weren't going to play our wardens again, I had truly hoped that she'd find Alistair again and make amends and talk him into rejoining the Grey Wardens. I really thought he'd come back after he walked out at Landsmeet once he cooled off. I get why he did it, not mad about that. Just frustrated that it all ended so abruptly like that, y'know? Every subsequent game afterwards, I keep looking for news of drunk Alistair, hoping that he turned it all around even though they'll probably never be together again at this point. I totally think of Judy Garland's "The Man That Got Away" when I think of their sad romance. They were such a beautiful couple. :crying:

 

Moments before it all changed.

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#3829
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Same Gilsa. And that's one thing I couldn't accept and also wasn't ever contradicted so in my canon, she found him and he's with her. I'm actually glad now they didn't show drunk!Alistair because I doubt they would have given him the arc id like him to have so I can make it whatever I want, but I was seriously disappointed.

That and the Architect were my top 2 non dwarf related wishes for the game so :(
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#3830
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TEWR, I think I know who you're talking about, she's a friend of mine and I've seen you on her blog before! (Prob def best not to link haha, if it's that person)

I love what, if we are talking about the same person, she's done with her Hawke and Warden in her Inquisition canon, it's so fun to read about. I'm still weirdly fixated on shoving together existing pieces for my "canon", but seeing her stuff (and others, including yours!) is really exciting and interesting and oddly liberating for me, even though I don't feel the pull to do it (at this moment)

 

I figured you would know who I'm talking about! And yeah, it's definitely her. I enjoy reading a lot of what she writes because she gives it so much depth and interesting stuff, more then Bioware has done. She's a great writer.

 

And thanks! Feel free to ask me any questions pertaining to my characters, on tumblr or here, whenever you want! I'd be very interested in hearing about your own world-state and characters as well when you feel the pull to talk about it.

 

That offer also goes out to the other posters!


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#3831
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So what are everyone's HOF's up to right now?

Which one, I completed 11 PTs of DAO :P ?

 

The Worldstate for my Zhenya has my warrior Ozera Aeducan and Zevran off in the west trying to find the cure, with Alistair probably tearing his hair out (he broke up with her at the Landsmeet, but they stayed friends since she'd expected all along to break off with him when he was forced to get married anyway.) Until they decided to search for a cure, she'd been cheerfully serving as Warden Commander and Alistair and Anora's chancellor.

 

The worldstate for my Derzka, Dalish warrior, has Misha, another Dalish warrior who is looking for a cure so he and Morrigan and their son can live a semi-normal life. He's not that attached to the Wardens when there isn't a blight.

 

The worldstate for Volya, Dalish mage, is a rogue warden queen-chancellor in a political marriage with Alistair and with Zevran as her lover. Presumably Zevran's with her in this WS too, but I haven't gotten nearly that far. I'd assumed once things stabilized, she handed over the wardens in Ferelden to Nathaniel.

 

My next three worldstates will be a female city elf rogue attached to Leliana and a female Dalish rogue with a warden Alistair-both mostly concentrated on being Warden Commander, and my Koshka Broska rogue who's King Alistair's mistress and chancellor.



#3832
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I've never completed a dwarf playthrough in Origins, but now that I have become a huge dwarf fan, I'm planning on doing it. 


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Not sure if this will be noticed, but just wanted to apologize for things getting out of hand last night. I'll stay out of your hair... it shouldn't have gotten to that point. Take care.


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I've never completed a dwarf playthrough in Origins

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#3835
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^ I know. I'm just awful. But I've seen the light now!


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^ I know. I'm just awful. But I've seen the light now!

 

Even I'll recommend it. ;) I like both of them, but Aeducan is better. Probably the most obviously competent Warden from the getgo.


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#3837
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My husband dug out his D&D book (link below) and showed me a couple pictures that helped create a better visual how to create them.
 
http://www.aegisoft....dbook [OEF].pdf
Dwarves - p. 14
Elves - p. 16
 
dwarfproportions_zps6cc78c41.png
 
You can see that dwarven faces are shorter, wider, and rounder with strong jawlines.


Thanks for the share Gilsa - that's kind of what I had in mind when crafting my Quizzy. Well, minus the strong jawline.
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#3838
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Did someone mention handsome dwarves…?  :P

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Not sure if this will be noticed, but just wanted to apologize for things getting out of hand last night. I'll stay out of your hair... it shouldn't have gotten to that point. Take care.

 

I'm sure we all appreciate it and can respect your passion. Things are bound to get heated between passionate people, for good or bad. Best of luck and I for one don't mind if you pop in and discuss Dwarfs from time to time, as you would of noticed even us Dwarf fans wish they could of done more to help it fit or expanded upon it.


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I'm sure we all appreciate it and can respect your passion. Things are bound to get heated between passionate people, for good or bad. Best of luck and I for one don't mind if you pop in and discuss Dwarfs from time to time, as you would of noticed even us Dwarf fans wish they could of done more to help it fit or expanded upon it.

 

Before anyone else says it: You're too kind. I know I went overboard a bit. I got temp banned for it. Probably a good thing to take a time out.

 

But yes, it comes from passion. And passion, too focused, can sometimes be negative on things outside that focus. 


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#3841
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Not kind, just understanding. I had to step back at times short of letting passion rip myself or just ignore it head in to game and forget about the forum for a hour or 2. Cooler heads prevail and all that.



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I'll be getting more pics up soon :)

 

Thanks to you guys, I just became a PS4 screenshot junkie!

 

I now look for the perfect pose to get all of my toons right in  :bandit:  even missing on some gameplay since I got the shot out of focus

 

But the dwarf love  :wub: 


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#3843
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Before anyone else says it: You're too kind. I know I went overboard a bit. I got temp banned for it. Probably a good thing to take a time out.

 

But yes, it comes from passion. And passion, too focused, can sometimes be negative on things outside that focus. 

Thank you, and I'm sorry it came to a temp ban. As others said, we'll be delighted to discuss dwarves and everything related to that with you.


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#3844
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Meet Xavier Cadash.

 

That's one sexy dwarf right there, am I right?............. <_< 

 

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Once upon a time there was a dwarf visiting the mighty city of Val Royeaux.

He was there on a quest to help his friend, the esteemed Lady Josephine of house Montilyet, to find out the motive for the murder of her envoy and therefore went to the house of Comte Boisvert. Instead of Monsieur Boisvert they met an assassin posing as the Comte, making honeyed threats and hollow excuses for the sad fact that they would have to kill Lady Montilyet.

It was the great misfortune of the dastardly cutthroat that he never had business with the Carta before...

 

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Because Thoryn Cadash doesn't like snobs and he surely isn't in the "veiled threats" business. He is in the "get in my way and I'll bash your topsider skull in" business!


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#3846
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Damn, that is one *SERIOUS* face he's putting on there. 



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Skraal is starting to put on some swag, if only I could get this pose when he has his Inquisitors Cap on.

 

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#3848
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I have NO clue weather or not Xavier will romance Josie or Cass

 

They both fit his personality so well



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Skraal is starting to put on some swag, if only I could get this pose when he has his Inquisitors Cap on.

 

 

Nice!  Is that the cowboy hat?  My guy never takes that thing off, well except when mandatory in cutscenes. 



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If Josephine is romanced, does it get acknowledged in the party or war table banter? (Wondering the same thing about Cullen, too, actually.)