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[Cespar]

Duncan did said and many others that dwarves make for excellent wardens. I don't think that they're that resisted to the taint. But then again, Ruck down in the deep road seems to have survived for a while on the darkspawn blood or was he eating the spiders? Maybe the stone in the dwarves have something to do with that resistance, if that holds any water I suppose. 

 

Now I'm kind of interesting in playing with my templar dwarf. 

[Zetrial]

Duncan did said and many others that dwarves make for excellent wardens. I don't think that they're that resisted to the taint. But then again, Ruck down in the deep road seems to have survived for a while on the darkspawn blood or was he eating the spiders? Maybe the stone in the dwarves have something to do with that resistance, if that holds any water I suppose.

Now I'm kind of interesting in playing with my templar dwarf.

Resistant, not immune. It still affects Dwarves, Ruck is proof of that, but I can't think of any other race that could survive for any period of time by eating Darkspawn flesh like he did.
Also to expand on my previous post, I think it more likely whatever we did was to combat something, whether that be Demons or Darkspawn, who knows, but it could be possible Dwarves managed to beat back the first Darkspawn and whatever created it, finding it near impossible to keep dead like Cory, constantly body jumping, so they imprisoned it in a cage in the fade and cleaved themselves off from it, so no one could break it open. At the time they may not have been aware of a surface world.

[Cespar]

At first glance I wasn't a fan of the race. But after playing both origins in DA:O & playing the alchemist in DA:I multiplayer I am now. Would consider a romance but...that height thou! Then again....fun siiiiiizzzzzeeee

We don't discriminate here. Love is love. 

[veeia]

Maybe try Sera's romance? She's really not THAT much taller, and super fun and cute with a dwarf lady.

[Yinello]

I can't believe I'm still not over the fact that Cullen won't romance my Dwarf, even after I enjoyed Blackwall's romance thoroughly. How does my Cadash get over Blondie? D=

[veeia]

Felt the same about Solas, altho by the end I was so happy with Blackwall and also lol Solas's romance ending, so it evened out for me but...fanfic? Be the change you want to see in the world, etc.

Cullen/Cadash would have been super cute, it is sad it can't happen in the game.

[Cypher0020]

Question about taint with dwarves lol

 

I know the 'Calling' is the song, the start of the mental deterioation.

 

But the physical effects.  People like Ruck, Hespith, heck, even Wesley.... or Beth/Carver........

 

that's what a warden, our dwarven HOF's will eventually become?

 

I just remember Ruck telling my Brosca he coul sense the darkness in her......

[Yinello]

Felt the same about Solas, altho by the end I was so happy with Blackwall and also lol Solas's romance ending, so it evened out for me but...fanfic? Be the change you want to see in the world, etc.

Cullen/Cadash would have been super cute, it is sad it can't happen in the game.

 

I considered fanfic but I dunno, it just feels a little off it not being canon. I don't know if I should wait for mods either. xP

 

I know others also really wanted to romance him with Qunari so it's a shame.

 

Edit: Hue, I actually found some fanfics. xD 

[Zetrial]

Maybe try Sera's romance? She's really not THAT much taller, and super fun and cute with a dwarf lady.

She seems like the perfect fit for a carta type Dwarf, isn't hung up on rules and can be mouthy. I love her, pity she doesn't dig Dwarven men. So she'll pretty much settle into a sidekick role for me.
I've never seen the alure of Solas myself, I haven't been able to trust him or think positively of him since the first conversation with him.

[Zetrial]

Question about taint with dwarves lol

I know the 'Calling' is the song, the start of the mental deterioation.

But the physical effects. People like Ruck, Hespith, heck, even Wesley.... or Beth/Carver........

that's what a warden, our dwarven HOF's will eventually become?

I just remember Ruck telling my Brosca he coul sense the darkness in her......

Larius is probably a better example of what a Warden will become rather than crippled, sick and dying. A Warden has survived infection of taint so it isn't killing them like those others, instead it is turning them to something akin to Darkspawn. So rather than lose themselves and turn on allies they go on a suicide mission. That is my take on it.

[TobiTobsen]

Question about taint with dwarves lol

 

I know the 'Calling' is the song, the start of the mental deterioation.

 

But the physical effects.  People like Ruck, Hespith, heck, even Wesley.... or Beth/Carver........

 

that's what a warden, our dwarven HOF's will eventually become?

 

I just remember Ruck telling my Brosca he coul sense the darkness in her......

 

To be precise the Calling (or the Long Walk) is the "ritual" that the Wardens undertake if they start hearing the song of the archdemons as an effect of the blight sickness. To prevent themselves from turning into ghouls they go to the Deep Roads and fight a final stand against the darkspawn to take down as many as they can before they are killed. If they don't do... well... Riordan implied that you wouldn't even have a choice: "You'd seek them out... or they'd seek you out."

 

So, yes. There is only one way being a warden ends. If our HOF doesn't find a cure for the taint they will eventually start to hear the song and, if they live long enough, will show the same physical changes as Ruck, Hespith, Larius and others infected with the blight..

[Cypher0020]

Well that sucks...........death by ghoulification, losing your marbles, or suicide walks into the deep roads

 

I just remember Ruck/Hespith freaking me out, especially as my female Brosca..... not even going with....possibly becoming a broodmother..... *shivers* that's a fate worse than death

 

do wardens hear the song all the time? If so........isn't going back to Orzammar like..... really really bad?

[TobiTobsen]

Well that sucks...........death by ghoulification, losing your marbles, or suicide walks into the deep roads

 

I just remember Ruck/Hespith freaking me out, especially as my female Brosca..... not even going with....possibly becoming a broodmother..... *shivers* that's a fate worse than death

 

do wardens hear the song all the time? If so........isn't going back to Orzammar like..... really really bad?

 

If I remember it correctly Wardens only hear the song when it's time for their calling or in nightmares in times of a blight.

The latter, combined with a higher exposure to darkspawn, being responsible for shorter lifespans of wardens that actually serve in a blight compared to those who are members of the order in "peaceful" times.

[Zetrial]

If I remember it correctly Wardens only hear the song when it's time for their calling or in nightmares in times of a blight.

The latter, combined with a higher exposure to darkspawn, being responsible for shorter lifespans of wardens that actually serve in a blight compared to those who are members of the order in "peaceful" times.

 

Even the presence of an Archdemon should accelerate it, Larius survived 30 years before his calling while it would appear our Warden is starting to fear it after 10.

 

Well that sucks...........death by ghoulification, losing your marbles, or suicide walks into the deep roads

 

I just remember Ruck/Hespith freaking me out, especially as my female Brosca..... not even going with....possibly becoming a broodmother..... *shivers* that's a fate worse than death

 

do wardens hear the song all the time? If so........isn't going back to Orzammar like..... really really bad?

 

Wardens aren't your regular ghouls like Ruck, they can both sense the taint but Wardens are tapped in to the hive mind like Darkspawn. So they probably turn even worse than those that freaked you out.

[Cypher0020]

Yeah what brought on the HOF's quest to cure the Calling like.......right now? It's been what.... 10-11 years since the 5th Blight... I personally think that y'know, Coryfish, massive tear in the sky is sliiiiiiiiiiighty more important then curing your disease

 

I mean.. still got time left........e

[Zetrial]

Grabbed these shots to add help add to my earlier theory. I'm sure most Dwarf players would of seen or heard these lines already, but it lends weight that Dwarves are incomplete, missing a part of themselves. Whether that is the Lyrium soul essence voodoo I mentioned earlier, we have no idea. I do hope we eventually find out the origin of Lyrium and first fall of the Dwarves, or whatever came before the Great Thaigs.

 

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[Tishina]

I considered fanfic but I dunno, it just feels a little off it not being canon. I don't know if I should wait for mods either. xP

 

I know others also really wanted to romance him with Qunari so it's a shame.

 

Edit: Hue, I actually found some fanfics. xD 

Go for the fanfic! There's no reason given in game for the race gating, and in fact it's been implied, I think, that it was a matter of not having enough time to do the work to make Cullen available to qunari and dwarves so there's no reason to feel uncomfortable about writing that ship. If I could write romance, I would write it myself. Probably my biggest disappointment in playing a female dwarf are the LIs available; I could really have gone for Blackwall

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(once I got over the reveal) if there had been romance development after you who he really is so you could actually find out who he is when he isn't trying to be Warden Blackwall. Cutting the romance off where they did makes me feel like they only wrote part of the story; the real romance would have been trying to discover that and regain trust, etc.

IB, well BDSM isn't my thing, but my real objection is the very negative "my way or the highway" ultimatum that starts the relationship, and despite the fact I love his character, it's probably the one romance I won't do. Sera feels way too young to me. And Josephine's is too fairy tale-bland for my taste.

[Tishina]

Grabbed these shots to add help add to my earlier theory. I'm sure most Dwarf players would of seen or heard these lines already, but it lends weight that Dwarves are incomplete, missing a part of themselves. Whether that is the Lyrium soul essence voodoo I mentioned earlier, we have no idea. I do hope we eventually find out the origin of Lyrium and first fall of the Dwarves, or whatever came before the Great Thaigs.

 

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You know, I think Cole has a similar conversation about Templars...

[Zetrial]

You know, I think Cole has a similar conversation about Templars...

 

It is the conversation about Templars, he gives a brief description of how they feel and says Varric and a Dwarf Quizzy feel like it too.

[Tishina]

It is the conversation about Templars, he gives a brief description of how they feel and says Varric and a Dwarf Quizzy feel like it too.

Interesting. I think, considering their lyrium addiction, those two conversations definitely tie in together.

[Fandango]

Grabbed these shots to add help add to my earlier theory. I'm sure most Dwarf players would of seen or heard these lines already, but it lends weight that Dwarves are incomplete, missing a part of themselves. Whether that is the Lyrium soul essence voodoo I mentioned earlier, we have no idea. I do hope we eventually find out the origin of Lyrium and first fall of the Dwarves, or whatever came before the Great Thaigs.

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Fascinating! You know, when Cole remarks that Dwarves are incomplete and always striving to connect to something older and bigger than themselves, I'm reminded of a conversation I had with Dagna about her Fade research:



Listening to that again, could it be that Dagna made that connection?
 

Dagna : There's something there. I was face-deep in a rune and for a moment I was tall. Really tall. And I thought. I thought all the thoughts.

Inquisitor : You felt taller? How much taller?

Dagna : Like, mountain-tall. Or I was the mountain. But I was moving. I felt dizzy. You know what I remembered? Watching a shaperate carve the wall of memory. Except... big. Isn't that weird? Maybe there were fumes.

Inquisitor : What do you mean when you say "thought all the thoughts"?

Dagna : I don't know. As if, for a moment, I was around all my people. And my thought was all of theirs?

Inquisitor : Your thoughts were our thoughts?

Dagna : No, no, my thought was all of our thoughts. Like parts. Ugh, words are mush. Maybe that's what the Stone feels like. Or we think it feels like. If we think it feels ? Creepy.

Seems probable right? But a connection to what? The past? The Stone? Her ancestors? Something else?

[Zetrial]

Fascinating! You know, when Cole remarks that Dwarves are incomplete and always striving to connect to something older and bigger than themselves, I'm reminded of a conversation I had with Dagna about her Fade research:



Listening to that again, could it be that Dagna made that connection?


Seems probable right? But a connection to what? Skyhold? The Stone? Her ancestors? Something else?

As near as I can tell, the residual energy of the mark from the scrapings off Quizzy triggered a connection between Dagna and the Lyrium in the rune she was working.
So if all Lyrium is connected, not as a hive mind of all Lyrium sharing one consciousness but a linked consciousness, all Lyrium channelled into each other, Dagna then taps in, breaching whatever it is that separated Dwarves and Lyrium via the mark and suddenly has the perspective of all Lyrium.
'As big as a mountain' is her feeling all of it as an extension of herself, her view not just her own but all Lyrium, that much perspective making her dizzy. All the scattered thoughts of the Lyrium now also her thoughts.
So if my theory that Lyrium is part of the essence of the Dwarves were to ring true, and the remaining essence returns to the stone which is the home of Lyrium, seeking the rest of itself then Dagna connected with what Dwarves believe, with the stone, with all Dwarven ancestors.
Given the effects a scraping of the mark allowed Dagna that connection, I believe if we are ever going to find out the history of the Dwarves it will be with the Inquisitor. As Dagna believes, the anchor is a key, it can be used to open or close locks, if Dwarves are locked away from magic, it could potentially undo it.

[Fandango]

So you agree that Dagna might have made that connection? Cool! Ok, given that it was the Quizzy's fade stained sample that allowed Dagna to make that transition so, I wonder whether the breach being open for so long might have changed that dynamic for other Dwarves too:

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Quizzy did experience a dream of sorts after all.

If so, how might that manifest itself in future games (mages anyone)?

Interesting!