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[vertigomez]

You could do it now behind spoilers, I think? I don't have the book yet, but I've been seeing tantalizing hints on another thread.

Oh, I see! Well, as long as no one minds and the thread won't get locked or anything...

Can one of you guys drop a little teaser?

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On the anniversary of Tug's death each year, Leliana opens a bottle of distilled plum brandy, imported from Antiva, and drinks it in memory of her friend. She pours a glass onto the stone for Tug, saying, "Atrast tunsha, salroka."

BRB CRYING

[Gilsa]

I needed somewhere to share my video game love.

My friends play but they don't get as deep as I can sometimes so I turned to Tumblr to indulge myself 

 

I signed up for tumblr because I wanted a place to document all the dwarf dialogue in Inquisition. I've seen people come in and complain that there were barely any dwarf content so there was less of a reason to play the race. That got me wondering if that was actually true or if people were having flawed memories. It's been enjoyable to take the time to really listen instead of running from quest to quest.

 

Tishina previously pointed out that there was a human sneering at elves and a dwarf would scoff at the human in return for the bad attitude. That theme has been continuing through Skyhold. I like to run around to try to get them to spawn to see if there's more banter to be had. It's nice to see the in-game underdogs stick up for each other even though the reality is a bit different on the forums.

 

So, when are we allowed to discuss WoT2 spoilers?

'Cause I have so many dwarf feels rn.

 

I'm not getting it, but discussion does not bother me in the slightest. Spoiler tags would probably be wise. (Not that I learned that the hard way. *cough*)

[vertigomez]

I signed up for tumblr because I wanted a place to document all the dwarf dialogue in Inquisition. I've seen people come in and complain that there were barely any dwarf content so there was less of a reason to play the race. That got me wondering if that was actually true or if people were having flawed memories. It's been enjoyable to take the time to really listen instead of running from quest to quest.

Tishina previously pointed out that there was a human sneering at elves and a dwarf would scoff at the human in return for the bad attitude. That theme has been continuing through Skyhold. I like to run around to try to get them to spawn to see if there's more banter to be had. It's nice to see the in-game underdogs stick up for each other even though the reality is a bit different on the forums.

I follow you on tumblr, and I gotta say I reeeaally appreciate all the dwarfy tidbits you post! It's nice to be able to whip them out and use them as ammo when the haters get antsy... errr, I mean, for reference.

I'm not getting it, but discussion does not bother me in the slightest. Spoiler tags would probably be wise. (Not that I learned that the hard way. *cough*)

Woohoo! There's quite a bit of fun stuff in here, like

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That bit about "the Stone lives beneath Orlais", Oghren's letter to his kid, info on Branka and Hespith's relationship and how Oghren's House was absorbed by Branka's when she was named Paragon, bedtime stories for baby dwarves!!, SIGRRUUUNNN, bits about Bhelen and Jarvia et al, and SEAFARING DWARVES.

My phone can't take a picture worth a crap but if anyone would like me to look something up and transcribe it I'd be happy to.

[Cespar]

I just pre-ordered the book, so I can't wait to up my Dragon Age's knowledge. I'm happy to hear that there are things about Cassandra. Hopefully there will be things about Cole .

Also, I bought the first book in the dwarven series.

[Merela]

Also, I bought the first book in the dwarven series.

 

I hope you'll enjoy it!

 

I've been in a The Hobbit mood myself lately and I ended buying the replica of Fili's sword (and I shall order Kili's one next week). It really looks great (the lovechild of a sword and an axe) and it'll make a badass wall-decoration, but it's also soooooooo heavy. Carrying the box around in the public transport was a bit unnerving, but thankfully I managed not to drop it on someone else's feet.

[Sifr]

Wait a moment, regarding one of those bits of information in WOT V2?

 

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If House Kondrat was absorbed into Branka's House when she was named Paragon, does that mean that when she was said to have "taken her entire House with her" into the Deep Roads to find the Anvil, this would included most of - if not all - of Oghren's family?

 

Because that would mean that Oghren is basically one of the last people of his House left alive? And it'd also make that part of Origins a hundred times even more depressing to replay again, knowing that in addition to Oghren finding out that his family is dead, it was his super-crazy ex-wife that fed them into the meat-grinder and turned them into Darkspawn chow?

 

[vertigomez]

Wait a moment, regarding one of those bits of information in WOT V2?
 

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If House Kondrat was absorbed into Branka's House when she was named Paragon, does that mean that when she was said to have "taken her entire House with her" into the Deep Roads to find the Anvil, this would included most of - if not all - of Oghren's family?
 
Because that would mean that Oghren is basically one of the last people of his House left alive? And it'd also make that part of Origins a hundred times even more depressing to replay again, knowing that in addition to Oghren finding out that his family is dead, it was his super-crazy ex-wife that fed them into the meat-grinder and turned them into Darkspawn chow?

 

That is exactly right, my friend.

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With the elevation in Branka's status, her family was named to Noble Caste, and all members of House Kondrat were absorbed into the newly noble House Branka. (...) In 9:28, Branka mounted an expedition into the Deep Roads to retrieve the Anvil. She took all of House Branka, save Oghren, with her for support.

Also, fun fact: apparently Hespith was Oghren's distant cousin and a warrior.

[Tishina]

Wait a moment, regarding one of those bits of information in WOT V2?

 

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If House Kondrat was absorbed into Branka's House when she was named Paragon, does that mean that when she was said to have "taken her entire House with her" into the Deep Roads to find the Anvil, this would included most of - if not all - of Oghren's family?

 

Because that would mean that Oghren is basically one of the last people of his House left alive? And it'd also make that part of Origins a hundred times even more depressing to replay again, knowing that in addition to Oghren finding out that his family is dead, it was his super-crazy ex-wife that fed them into the meat-grinder and turned them into Darkspawn chow?

 

That was kinda my first thought when I read it. I feel a bit more sympathy for him now...

[Sifr]

Yep, that's a lot more depressing.

 

[Reznore57]

The story of Oghren is WOT 2 is just a whole pile of depression.

Seriously.

 

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  He was so drunk , he dropped his baby 2 times .And there's a letter he send to his kid where he says , he will probably die soon but it's okay because  being a warden and leaving his son was the best thing he could do as a father.

 

It made me really sad .

 

[vertigomez]

The story of Oghren is WOT 2 is just a whole pile of depression.
Seriously.
 

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  He was so drunk , he dropped his baby 2 times .And there's a letter he send to his kid where he says , he will probably die soon but it's okay because  being a warden and leaving his son was the best thing he could do as a father.
 
It made me really sad .
 

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Plus, the picture they chose for his profile WTF. Drunk, miserable, "pathetic" Oghren instead of him being all confident and warriory or at least grinning? It's sad AF!

[TEWR]

What does it say about Sigrun or Velanna or Nathaniel, if anything? I've seen a few things on tumblr, like Velanna's childhood or Nathaniel's work with a bow, but that's about it.

 

 

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And there's a letter he send to his kid where he says , he will probably die soon but it's okay because  being a warden and leaving his son was the best thing he could do as a father.

 

NOT IN MY VERSE WILL THAT HAPPEN.

 

Wait, is this letter in regards to the siege on Vigil's Keep.... or Adamant?

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Plus, the picture they chose for his profile WTF. Drunk, miserable, "pathetic" Oghren instead of him being all confident and warriory or at least grinning? It's sad AF!

 

You mean like this?

 

[vertigomez]

Oghren's letter was written just before the siege at Vigil's Keep.

What does it say about Sigrun or Velanna or Nathaniel, if anything? I've seen a few things on tumblr, like Velanna's childhood or Nathaniel's work with a bow, but that's about it.

Oh lawd oh lawd, where to begin?

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Nate's profile says he was "squired under [his mother's] cousin Ser Rudolphe Verley, a trained chevalier and fixture in the court of the ruling Vael family of Starkhaven". Apparently his parents didn't get along very well (or at least disagreed a lot). He became an archer after meeting one of Ser Rudolphe's watchmen. He partook in the Grand Tourney once. Said he would've been quite content to live his life as a wandering knight had his family not been disgraced and killed.

Velanna was apparently a precocious little mage. When her powers manifested she declared herself First. Apparently a lot of her anger at humans was dismissed as "a personality quirk of a severe young woman". There's a punch-you-in-the-feels note attached, written by her Keeper's successor: Is it any surprise? Seranni was Velanna's whole world. She would never admit it, but she clung to her sister like life. With Seranni gone, Velanna was missing a piece of her whole heart. She was broken, no longer whole. And what wouldn't you do to restore your heart?

And Sigrun gets a huuuge letter. I'm just gonna put the whole thing here 'cause snippets don't do it justice.

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Yesterday, a friend suggested that I write a report about myself.

"Wow, Sigrun, you've lived such an interesting and varied life! Surviving Dust Town, the Legion of the Dead, the surface... I could just go on and on! But there's so much left untold! Why don't you write all about it? It'll be such an inspiration to others, don't you think? Other casteless, other legionnaires, other small but terrifying people..."

(Not her words exactly.)

First I thought, "What? Really? My life?" And then I thought, "Well, why not?" Let's see if darkspawn blood makes good ink!

(It doesn't. Just so you know. It seems to want to crawl off the page on its own. I'm not making this up. I swear it does that.)

Anyway, let's start from the beginning...

I was born in Dust Town. They say I slid out of my mother like a buttered nug going through a I was an easy birth. My mother's name was Jana, and we had a little shack in Dust Town that we shared with her brother and his wife and their four children. My mother made her bits helping merchants unload the brontos. It was never really enough. She loved me, though, and she told me that often, and was sorry she couldn't give me more. It never occurred to her to go to the surface. It doesn't occur to many dusters.

From the time I could walk, I did what I could. Begging came first--a crying child, brand or no brand, is hard to see, even for the most cold-hearted nobles. But the ladies were the easiest. Especially those who couldn't have children of their own. And believe me, it was a big problem up in the Diamond Quarter. Maybe having man-sized statues of your ancestors peering down at you with their glittering eyes didn't do much for the mood I pitied them.

Anyway, when I got old enough that the tear-stained face just wasn't working anymore, I turned to thieving. It helped put a little more food on the table, especially since my ma was getting sicker. I won't go into that. I'm not looking for sympathy, and it's just something that happens to dusters. Dust Town's just a hard life, you know? No food, smoke and waste from the forges--it's just bad. Anyway, it was my turn to look after her, so I did, as much as I could.

That's when I met Mischa. She helped me out. I stole some food and she caught me, but paid for it instead of telling the shopkeeper. Don't think I even thanked her. I have sh1t for manners these days, but back then, it was worse. Much worse. Anyway, she told me that if I ever wanted to get away from stealing, to come see her at her shop in the commons. So the next day, I did. She started me off running errands for a few bits a day. Tough lady, never gave me a moment's rest. Sigrun, deliver this package to Janar. Sigrun, get those plates off the shelf and wrap them in leather. Sigrun, just run over to the door and come back. Now do it twice more. Things like that. Even though she wanted to help, I think deep down she believed what everyone always says about us brands, that we're bad. We can't help it. We're born criminal, and if left to ourselves, we do criminal things on instinct. Like sh1tting and fcuking breathing. She thought if she didn't keep me constantly occupied, it would be, "Oops, how did I end up with the monument to Endrin Aeducan in my pocket? I guess I must've swiped it without realizing!"

I guess I showed her how wrong she was, huh? (That was sarcasm.) I couldn't even look at her when the guards were taking her away. I didn't have to look at her. I could tell she was staring at me. I could feel it. She knew it was me that planted the statue of Paragon Bemot. Who else could it be but me? It was the rotten casteless duster. It was her own fault for trusting me.

Well, after Mischa was exiled, it was back to thieving for me. It was in my nature, after all. And by that time, my ma had died and dear Uncle Boro wasn't going to support me, so I was on my own. I could've gone to someone in the Carta and tried my hand (and other bits) at being a noble hunter. But I didn't have the looks, and no noble's going to put up with a mouthy brand. Not mouthy in the way I'm mouthy anyway. So thievery it was. Big time, this time. Got protection from the Carta to work certain parts of the Commons. I was doing all right, till they found me with my hand in Damira Helmi's pocket. She had this beautiful, ruby-encrusted purse... I was thinking of all the roast nug I was going to eat, and I got careless. The guards chased me all through the Commons. I really should've just gone with them, but I was stupid. I fought back, and one of the guards, he... cracked his head on a pillar. I just wanted to trip him to get away. I never intended for him to die.

But he died, and they caught me. A casteless killing a member of the Warrior Caste in good standing? Well, it was execution or the Legion. I chose the Legion. They threw me a party! Well, they threw a party for the Legion recruits from the upper castes. I just happened to be there. And technically it was a funeral, with dirges and mourning. But there was also feasting and drinking, which, to me, made it a party. I ate all the roast nug I could, and then we were ushered out the great doors and into the dark.

Paragon's mercy, was it dark. You don't know dark until you've been in the Deep Roads without a torch. People started lighting them, slowly, but in those first few moments, I thought I was going to cry. And then I felt a hand on my shoulder, and someone telling me that it was going to be all right. It was Varlan Vollney. We became friends. He taught me to read and write. Without him, you wouldn't be reading this right now, would you?

He died in Kal'Hirol. I still miss him a little bit, sometimes. But he was ready. He'd been ready for a while. He never told me what he did to end up in the Legion, but I got the feeling it was something really bad that he felt horrible about. So he was ready to go. I never was. Not till I met the Grey Wardens.

(Wow, that did not come out well. "Grey Wardens make Legion of the Dead member wish for true death." That's not what I meant. You know what I meant.)

Anyway, there it is--the story of my life. Shorter than I thought it would be. Actually, people say that to me a lot. The other story of my life.

You mean like this?

That deeeefinitely looks happier than the one in the book. >____>

[TheJediSaint]

I think the best than can be expected from Ogrhen is (barely) functional alcoholism.

[AresKeith]

That is exactly right, my friend.

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With the elevation in Branka's status, her family was named to Noble Caste, and all members of House Kondrat were absorbed into the newly noble House Branka. (...) In 9:28, Branka mounted an expedition into the Deep Roads to retrieve the Anvil. She took all of House Branka, save Oghren, with her for support.

Also, fun fact: apparently Hespith was Oghren's distant cousin and a warrior.

 

Lol

[AresKeith]

That deeeefinitely looks happier than the one in the book. >____>

 

How does the book one look?

[vertigomez]

How does the book one look?

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[AresKeith]

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Ouch, no respect for Oghren lol

[Sifr]

Kinda sad really?

 

I mean, compare that to Cullen overcoming his Lyrium addiction which was played as the serious issue it was, while Samson likewise generates a lot of woobieness for how his own Lyrium addiction ruined his life and lead him down the wrong path? But when it comes to Oghren and his alcoholism... nah, very little sympathy given to him whatsoever?

 

Heck, even the Simpsons in later seasons has Barney trying to get sober as a recurring plotpoint, even though he does occasionally relapse?

 

Would be nice if Oghren was finally allowed to catch a break, rather than keeping him in permanently stuck in the gutter? Especially since even Gaider commented that he regretted putting Oghren into Awakening because of how much he ended up becoming a flanderised, one-note caricature?

[Gilsa]

FANTASTIC read on Sigrun. I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thanks for typing all that up. I'm sorry for Oghren. I really thought he was turning it all around with the rousing speech he gave the Warden before the archdemon fight, but that depends on how high his approval is, no? I guess he's got enough of a tragic backstory to keep him an eternal drunk. =/

 

Oh, and speaking of happy moments, Happy Mother's Day.

 

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[Tishina]

Kinda sad really?

 

I mean, compare that to Cullen overcoming his Lyrium addiction which was played as the serious issue it was, while Samson likewise generates a lot of woobieness for how his own Lyrium addiction ruined his life and lead him down the wrong path? But when it comes to Oghren and his alcoholism... nah, very little sympathy given to him whatsoever?

 

Heck, even the Simpsons in later seasons has Barney trying to get sober as a recurring plotpoint, even though he does occasionally relapse?

 

Would be nice if Oghren was finally allowed to catch a break, rather than keeping him in permanently stuck in the gutter? Especially since even Gaider commented that he regretted putting Oghren into Awakening because of how much he ended up becoming a flanderised, one-note caricature?

That and the fact that if you made the US as a dwarven warden, he supposedly sobered up, became a Ferelden general, and named his first daughter (or son) after you. I found his inclusion in DAA annoying because it wiped out that ending too (the one feel-good about the US for a dwarf.)

[Tishina]

FANTASTIC read on Sigrun. I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thanks for typing all that up. I'm sorry for Oghren. I really thought he was turning it all around with the rousing speech he gave the Warden before the archdemon fight, but that depends on how high his approval is, no? I guess he's got enough of a tragic backstory to keep him an eternal drunk. =/

 

Oh, and speaking of happy moments, Happy Mother's Day.

 

Source: http://jenn-y.devian...arest-163409218

It's probably a good thing that my youngest, who's a big Brosca fan too, didn't see this first, or I'd probably have found it pinned to my bedroom door this morning

[Merela]

I tried something today. In my defense, I'm currently running a fever.

 

 

 

That's why he's wearing a beard.

[EggplantRed]

He still looks nice Merela, especially the 'beard' 

Hope you feel better soon!

[vertigomez]

Oh boy, I love Brosca's mom. And hate her. And love her? At any rate, Happy Mama's Day, dorf thread!

Just for funsies, this bit from the Jaws of Hakkon DLC featuring Harding and Bull cracked me up. No real spoilers.