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[90s Kai]

Okay Dwarflings! Since we can all pretty much agree there is a dwarf centric DLC on the way, I was wondering what you all think (or hope) will be in it. Obviously there will be darkspawn, but I hope we get a tale of how mighty the Dwarven Empire was or go explore some thaigs that were long forgotten. But what I really want is (this will sound silly) but I want a drinking match. Dwarfs love their ale an other alcoholic beverages, so I want that included as well. It would be glorious!

[Qun00]

Harrowmont vs Bhelen seems like a surprisingly easy choice.

Bhelen is no saint, but he is more pro casteless while Harrowmont enforces tradition.

Or is it there more to it?

[Tishina]

Harrowmont vs Bhelen seems like a surprisingly easy choice.

Bhelen is no saint, but he is more pro casteless while Harrowmont enforces tradition.

Or is it there more to it?

A lot more, depending on whether you're an Aeducan or a Brosca. Actually for a Brosca, it's heavily weighted in favor of Bhelen because your sister is his concubine and has a son by him plus he's friendlier to the casteless. For an Aeducan, you're torn between Bhelen's betrayal and family loyalty (plus I still have major suspicions about Harrowmont's role in your exile as an Aeducan warden.) Overall, the rumors seem to suggest Bhelen's been the better choice overall (he even seems to have been good to your sister if you played Brosca.) But I don't know if WoT2 confirms the gossip you hear about them...

[Gilsa]

Okay Dwarflings! Since we can all pretty much agree there is a dwarf centric DLC on the way, I was wondering what you all think (or hope) will be in it.

 

1. Dwarven throne

2. Dwarf outfit -- well, this is just me being greedy as the DLC will need to cater to all races anyway (and the qunari didn't have much to begin with so they totally deserved their DLC pack, should have been qunari-only to be fair to them though) so I won't pout if this doesn't happen. Just being honest.

 

Harrowmont vs Bhelen seems like a surprisingly easy choice.

Bhelen is no saint, but he is more pro casteless while Harrowmont enforces tradition.

Or is it there more to it?

 

Bhelen is very much "ends justify the means." There's a lot of collateral damage in his rise to power. When you choose Bhelen as the king, there are comments from dwarves here and there that they'll be punished or executed for not supporting him. In DA2, Bhelen hunts down Harrowmont's last surviving family member just to wipe out his former rival's bloodline. It's just mean-spirited.

 

They're both terrible choices. One will liberate the casteless (in a sense), but will crush anyone caught in his way. He's devious and calculating. Harrowmont will keep Orzammar bogged down in traditions and the status quo won't change, but he's not vicious like Bhelen is. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

Personally I think the writing direction for the dwarves changed drastically after Origins. It was implied that Harrowmont was going to die shortly after the epilogue so it wasn't unreasonable to think he'd be replaced by someone not-Bhelen. Now epilogue has been dismissed as "rumors" by the writers and as of DA3, Bhelen has been written as the best choice while it was ambiguous in all of Origins. I remember endless threads discussing Harrowmont vs Bhelen which meant the choice came down to the wire. Now it's written like duh, Bhelen was the best all along. Y'know?

[Tishina]

1. Dwarven throne

2. Dwarf outfit -- well, this is just me being greedy as the DLC will need to cater to all races anyway (and the qunari didn't have much to begin so they totally deserved their DLC pack, should have been qunari-only to be fair to them though) so I won't pout if this doesn't happen. Just being honest.

 

 

Bhelen is very much "ends justify the means." There's a lot of collateral damage in his rise to power. When you choose Bhelen as the king, there are comments from dwarves here and there that they'll be punished or executed for not supporting him. In DA2, Bhelen hunts down Harrowmont's last surviving family member just to wipe out his former rival's bloodline. It's just mean-spirited.

 

They're both terrible choices. One will liberate the casteless (in a sense), but will crush anyone caught in his way. He's devious and calculating. Harrowmont will keep Orzammar bogged down in traditions and the status quo won't change, but he's not vicious like Bhelen is. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

Personally I think the writing direction for the dwarves changed drastically after Origins. It was implied that Harrowmont was going to die shortly after the epilogue so it wasn't unreasonable to think he'd be replaced by someone not-Bhelen. Now epilogue has been dismissed as "rumors" by the writers and as of DA3, Bhelen has been written as the best choice while it was ambiguous in all of Origins. I remember endless threads discussing Harrowmont vs Bhelen which meant the choice came down to the wire. Now it's written like duh, Bhelen was the best all along. Y'know?

True, though I always thought there was a lot of room as an Aeducan for suspecting Harrowmont himself of manipulating events and trying to set you up to be killed by Trian (how else did Trian know where to send his mercs?) and was simply undercut by Bhelen. I also was suspicious of Harrowmont's role in your non-traditional exile as a kin-slayer (Gorrim makes it clear that you should have been allowed to present a defense.) What Bhelen does is nasty, but there's no reason not to suspect Harrowmont didn't do the same thing since killing off threats to power is pretty much the norm. Though I agree, they appear to have written Bhelen as the good choice, but I think all we actually have is gossip - there's no way to tell if it was slanted by the speakers.

[Gilsa]

Right, I remember that. You presented a strong case for Harrowmont's culpability as well. It would be so awesome if the DLC even touched on this with a codex so we can go AH HAAA! =p

[EggplantRed]

I'm annoyed with how the Carta Coat for rogues has terrible skin coloring. The ONE coat just for dwarven rogues is limiting. The forearms and hands are pre-colored for light skin tones. No one accounted for dark skin tones on this armor and it's really beginning to bug me. It's difficult to pretend they're gloves and not hands because they made sure to paint knuckles and fingernails on!

I just needed to get that off my chest. Maybe someone on the team will see this and slap it in a patch. A girl can hope...

[Merela]

So today's tweet is about lyrium...

 

Dammit Bioware!

[Qun00]

When you're in Orzammar, one of the npcs says "No offense, but how do you even walk with those awkwardly long limbs?"

I found that pretty amusing. If people on the surface find dwarves unappealing for being short, well, it goes the other way around too.

Equally insightful was my meeting with Kardol from the Legion of the Dead. If you tell him he should care more about the Blight, he says Orzammar has to fight the darkspawn everyday and yet the surface doesn't care about that.

It's a very good point.

[Tishina]

When you're in Orzammar, one of the npcs says "No offense, but how do you even walk with those awkwardly long limbs?"

I found that pretty amusing. If people on the surface find dwarves unappealing for being short, well, it goes the other way around too.

Equally insightful was my meeting with Kardol from the Legion of the Dead. If you tell him he should care more about the Blight, he says Orzammar has to fight the darkspawn everyday and yet the surface doesn't care about that.

It's a very good point.

My response to that has always been that everyone's about the same height lying down...

 

I liked Kardol too, I would like to have had more interaction with him.

[andy6915]

When you're in Orzammar, one of the npcs says "No offense, but how do you even walk with those awkwardly long limbs?"

I found that pretty amusing. If people on the surface find dwarves unappealing for being short, well, it goes the other way around too.

Equally insightful was my meeting with Kardol from the Legion of the Dead. If you tell him he should care more about the Blight, he says Orzammar has to fight the darkspawn everyday and yet the surface doesn't care about that.

It's a very good point.

No, it's not a good point. Yeah, blights mean that the pressure is let off of Orzammar... But the fifth blight was different. As soon as Ferelden is beat by the blight, Orzammar is SCREWED. Their food lifeline would be gone, which means starvation. On top of that, the darkspawn will then have Orzammar in a pincer attack. They'll be getting hit by the surface AND mines entrance, all while famine and starvation are hitting them. Orzammar would have been wiped OFF THE MAP if the fifth blight had won. So, Kardol wants a good dwarven reason to care about the blight? How about Orzammar getting annihilated.

[berelinde]

Considering that Kardol's diet probably consists of deepstalker, nug, and the occasional deep mushroom, he probably gives very little thought as to what the rest of Orzammar eats. You're right. Orzammar cannot survive without outside trade, but most people in Orzammar don't realize that. As Iron Bull says, people are people. They think about the things they need to think about to go about their lives from one day to the next and leave the mental heavy lifting for the big brains.

[Qun00]

It's not so much about the fact that a Blight relieves Orzammar of the bulk of the Darkspawn horde as it is that the kingdoms of the surface feel very little sympathy for the dwarves' daily struggle in the Deep Roads.

I'm not surprised that some dwarves couldn't care less when a surfacer comes asking for help.

[Tishina]

Gilsa, I posted some screenshots of Zhenya in the carta cut pajamas while she's being made Inquisitor on Tumblr. I was so much happier with the way she looked than I'd been with Reska, thank you!

 

Got one great one of her snarling at Cory while he was dangling her (though that scene isn't realistic; she'd have tried kicking to discover whether he still had any, um, jewels left at the least.)

 

[themageguy]

My hopes for a Deep Roads DLC

*Darkspawn and Dwarf lore- especially the Titans.

*More corrupted Magisters

*Sandal

*Shaper- lore and abilities

[Fandango]

Okay Dwarflings! Since we can all pretty much agree there is a dwarf centric DLC on the way, I was wondering what you all think (or hope) will be in it.

A long, gruelling dungeon crawl through the Deep Roads would be great my pov. In terms of lore, I'd love to learn a little something about Titans.

[Gilsa]

@Tish -- I saw when I was scrolling by on my phone! It was a nice surprise! Your screenshots are glowing with how much you love your Inquisitors.

[90s Kai]

 

Dragon Age

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Deep Roads DLC confirmed? 

 

   

[Gilsa]

Man, every Tuesday I come here hoping something got released since that's when they put things out. Guessing we've got another week of teasing ahead of us.

 

Also, thanks to Tishina, I just found out that JoH is on sale for like $10 on Origins so I will go ahead and pick up that DLC after all.

[Lynx7386]

I do really like the dwarves and their culture/style, but it seems like none of the Dragon age games have made playing anything but human feel right.  The story just never seems to coincide with an elven or dwarven (or qunari) player character.

[Tishina]

I do really like the dwarves and their culture/style, but it seems like none of the Dragon age games have made playing anything but human feel right.  The story just never seems to coincide with an elven or dwarven (or qunari) player character.

I thought DAO did pretty well with Origin stories that made what you were doing make sense, plus every one of the major story quests had special content for a race (or mages.) The city elves got a little shorted in that game, I think, because the one quest in the alienage was much shorter than, say, a Paragon of her Kind (and the Dalish aren't any more welcoming than humans or dwarves, honestly.) But I've been a little disappointed that the other races felt like afterthoughts in DAI, particularly dwarves and qunari.

[Cespar]

I do really like the dwarves and their culture/style, but it seems like none of the Dragon age games have made playing anything but human feel right.  The story just never seems to coincide with an elven or dwarven (or qunari) player character.

Please tell me how? You can't just say that without any reasons why you feel that way. 

 

I can't speak for anyone else here, but I never felt like Brosca or Cadash didn't fit in the game. The little reactions here and there about a dwarf pc is all I need. 

[Andraste_Reborn]

I do really like the dwarves and their culture/style, but it seems like none of the Dragon age games have made playing anything but human feel right.  The story just never seems to coincide with an elven or dwarven (or qunari) player character.

 

That's really a matter of taste. I think most origins work well in DAO; Dalish elf was the only one that felt weak and disconnected from the rest of the game to me. (Ironically, between Merrill and the appearance of the clan in DA2 and all the elfy stuff in DAI, it has become the one most relevant to the series as a whole.)

 

As for Inquisition, between the Solas romance, the Temple of Mythal, and Ameridan, an elf Inquisitor seems to get more relevant content from the game than anyone else. And having played all four races now, I thought human was the boring option. Everyone expected somebody like my noble warrior to be the Herald, and that was much less fun for me than surprising everyone as a dwarf or a qunari. My dwarf run, in particular, felt like what would happen if the snarky sidekick accidentally became the protagonist of the story. Which is pretty much what happened, considering that she was only the hero because she touched the wrong ball.

[Qun00]

Tell me a little about how you guys roleplayed your Carta dwarves, whether it was in DAO or DAI.

I must admit I'm not the most creative guy and I tend to do it the most obvious way, hardly going beyond "mwahahaha, I'm an evil criminal!" and "Grrrr, I hate the caste hierarchy!"

[berelinde]

My latest Cadash (I named her Shayle because, reasons) is an acclimated surfacer. She's heard about the Stone and dwarfy dwarves, but her take on it is a lot like Varric's: "That's nice, but not at all relevant to me." Like Varric, she's quietly Andrastian, but not a particularly observant one. She's unapologetic about her Carta connections, but she isn't a hardened criminal. She describes her past as if it were just a business, a way for a dwarf to make a living among humans. She's both astonished and relieved that her new role allows her to escape that life.

 

As for the possibility of a dwarf-centric DLC, IT'S ABOUT FRICKIN' TIME! Dwarves seem to get left in the cold compared to the other races, so I like the idea that they might finally be getting some love.