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[AresKeith]

Bianca's outfit looks a lot better here (minus the hood)

 

[Elhanan]

Just how short is the dwarven gestation period?....

Hey! Is that a Dwarf joke?!!!

[90s Kai]

Okay I've missed the past few months of this thread (due to college  ) but if someone could give me a run down of the "Titans", and if you all happen to have a consensus of what they are, I would greatly appreciate it. All I know that it is something Kieran said to Cadash in the story.

[Elhanan]

Okay I've missed the past few months of this thread (due to college  ) but if someone could give me a run down of the "Titans", and if you all happen to have a consensus of what they are, I would greatly appreciate it. All I know that it is something Kieran said to Cadash in the story.

Found this, if it helps:

[andy6915]

That's some nice Legion armor

 

I don't know why they call that armor "Legion of the Dead" armor, though I have an idea as to why which I say further down. It isn't Legion armor, it's dwarven noble armor. Legion of the Dead comes only in darker colors and has a specific heraldry on it and the metal is a bit rough looking, while noble armor is lighter colored and has no heraldry and is very smooth metal (they also have a different design of the crotch-cloth thing). The "Legion of the Dead armor" matches the latter description perfectly, and not remotely the former. I think they just named it that because it's a more recognizable name since that was an armor in DAO, but it's actually just like the armor that the dwarven noble warden starts the game in.

 

Compare, you tell me which is looks more similar to.

 

 

 

[draken-heart]

I decided to bite the bullet and make a male dwarf warrior named Anfri (my name as a dwarf from normal fantasy). debating weapon & shield or two handed reaver for no real reason.

[andy6915]

I decided to bite the bullet and make a male dwarf warrior named Anfri (my name as a dwarf from normal fantasy). debating weapon & shield or two handed reaver for no real reason.

 

Well, what suits them? Do they prefer offense or defense? Dwarves actually probably make great sword and shield warriors, their low center of gravity means they're probably quite hard to deal with when they're using a shield nearly as big as they are. However, 2-handed certainly makes a dwarf look more impressive. I personally prefer the actual feel and auto attack style of 2-handers, not to mention 2-handed warriors are considered more special and elite in DAI. I mean, nearly every warrior in DAI in a sword and shield user, whereas bruisers (2-handed weapon users) are always elites and never ever standard enemy units. Makes it seem like bruisers are more rare and special than the people who just use the standard rank-and-file style of sword and shield style. So you can tell what I suggest.

 

You know, I actually have a hard to imagining a dual wield rogue dwarf. Dwarves are not graceful, not elegant, should realistically have little dexterity with their squat and broad skeletal structure. Elves and humans are the types to be able to be acrobatic and flexible, not dwarves. Dwarves have a body type practically made for warriors, but not for being a fast and agile person ducking and weaving in and out of stealth to stab someone in the back. But my next dwarf in DAI is going to be a dual wield dwarf, so... I don't know how to reconcile this.

[Cespar]

Okay I've missed the past few months of this thread (due to college  ) but if someone could give me a run down of the "Titans", and if you all happen to have a consensus of what they are, I would greatly appreciate it. All I know that it is something Kieran said to Cadash in the story.

I'll give you a short summary of what I have speculated on. 

 

I don't know if you remember the conversation Solas and Varric had, but Solas told Varric that the dwarves are the severed arm of a once mighty hero, lying in a pool of blood. I believe he's referring to the Titans, who are supposedly the "real" Gods of the Dwarves. 

[Spectre4hire]

So where do you guys think the Descent will start? 

 

Will it be a new surface location for us to explore and would be our access point to the Deep Roads or one of the already established areas we've seen. I know they had one reference to the Storm Coast/Lyrium Falls area during their weeks of hype/tease. 

[Cespar]

So where do you guys think the Descent will start? 

 

Will it be a new surface location for us to explore and would be our access point to the Deep Roads or one of the already established areas we've seen. I know they had one reference to the Storm Coast/Lyrium Falls area during their weeks of hype/tease. 

The last teaser talked about the Storm Coast. So, I'm guessing we're going to be going into the Deep Roads from the Coast. 

[Spectre4hire]

Yeah, I saw that too. 

 

An interesting place to start. Would it be lyrium falls? 

 

B/c that other dwarf area where the Red Templars are isn't unlocked until later in the game. 

[AresKeith]

Speaking of Legion armor, it would be cool if DAI made a rogue version of it

[draken-heart]

Well, what suits them? Do they prefer offense or defense? Dwarves actually probably make great sword and shield warriors, their low center of gravity means they're probably quite hard to deal with when they're using a shield nearly as big as they are. However, 2-handed certainly makes a dwarf look more impressive. I personally prefer the actual feel and auto attack style of 2-handers, not to mention 2-handed warriors are considered more special and elite in DAI. I mean, nearly every warrior in DAI in a sword and shield user, whereas bruisers (2-handed weapon users) are always elites and never ever standard enemy units. Makes it seem like bruisers are more rare and special than the people who just use the standard rank-and-file style of sword and shield style. So you can tell what I suggest.

 

You know, I actually have a hard to imagining a dual wield rogue dwarf. Dwarves are not graceful, not elegant, should realistically have little dexterity with their squat and broad skeletal structure. Elves and humans are the types to be able to be acrobatic and flexible, not dwarves. Dwarves have a body type practically made for warriors, but not for being a fast and agile person ducking and weaving in and out of stealth to stab someone in the back. But my next dwarf in DAI is going to be a dual wield dwarf, so... I don't know how to reconcile this.

 

Not exactly sure, really. I feel that they would be good for weapon and shield, but I thought about going with Kinetic's Reaver build either way as a springboard. I will be adding a backstory at some point if people want it,

[andy6915]

Speaking of Legion armor, it would be cool if DAI made a rogue version of it

 

I don't know if that would work, the codex itself states that Legion of the Dead only wear heavy armor. But if you mean a dwarven rogue armor that isn't that gaudy Carta look, I agree. Like how about some nice dwarven medium armor from DAO?

[AresKeith]

I don't know if that would work, the codex itself states that Legion of the Dead only wear heavy armor. But if you mean a dwarven rogue armor that isn't that gaudy Carta look, I agree. Like how about some nice dwarven medium armor from DAO?

 

I forgot about that codex, damn it lore 

[Cespar]

Speaking of Legion armor, it would be cool if DAI made a rogue version of it

Yea, I like the Legion armor, but the bulkiness of it doesn't fit with my main Cadash. The Avvar armor is more of his style or any of the overcoat. 

[andy6915]

I forgot about that codex, damn it lore 

 

You know, I forgot something. Something weird, but interesting. There was a Legion of the Dead armor that looked exactly like dwarven noble armor: It's Sigrun's starting armor, and lacks the Legion heraldry and in fact has no similarity to the Legion armor. And it's also considered medium armor (and she's a rogue), despite having the exact appearance as armor that is considered to be massive weight. So does this mean that the Legion armor found in DAI is actually Legion scout armor that is actually medium weight even though it has a class restriction of being only for warriors, or was Sigrun's armor just sharing the noble appearance because they didn't care to design a unique looking medium Legion armor?

 

http://dragonage.wik...Scout_armor_set

 

 

 

 

Dammit Sigrun, you confused the issue! I think it would be easier to just pretend that armor was not canon, it disagrees with the codex and doesn't even look like it should.

[Gilsa]

I decided to bite the bullet and make a male dwarf warrior named Anfri (my name as a dwarf from normal fantasy). debating weapon & shield or two handed reaver for no real reason.

 

I liked going reaver for RP reasons because you can choose to be a violent thug (as per the conversation with Josephine) and I like the idea of having a dwarf that constantly goes on the offensive. I went with 2H so her scars could be a result of not having a shield to hide behind. That's just me though.

 

 

Yeah, I saw that too. 

 

An interesting place to start. Would it be lyrium falls? 

 

B/c that other dwarf area where the Red Templars are isn't unlocked until later in the game. 

 

I was thinking the very same thing, that other area (name escapes me atm) wasn't accessible until later on like you said and the DLC is available right when you get to Skyhold. Lyrium Falls is such a pain to clear just to access a DLC so I'm thinking it might be a different area. There are plenty of dwarven statues spread out and any number of locations that could serve as the entrance for the DLC.

[andy6915]

I liked going reaver for RP reasons because you can choose to be a violent thug (as per the conversation with Josephine) and I like the idea of having a dwarf that constantly goes on the offensive. I went with 2H so her scars could be a result of not having a shield to hide behind. That's just me though.

 

 

 

I was thinking the very same thing, that other area (name escapes me atm) wasn't accessible until later on like you said and the DLC is available right when you get to Skyhold. Lyrium Falls is such a pain to clear just to access a DLC so I'm thinking it might be a different area. There are plenty of dwarven statues spread out and any number of locations that could serve as the entrance for the DLC.

 

Wait... I think I recall a doorway that doesn't appear on the map and is closed and can't even be interacted with, yet it very much looks like it should be an entrance to something. I could be wrong, but that's what my memory is telling me. I recall that it always puzzled me every time I happen to stumble on it.

[Gilsa]

Korbin is also in the Legion of the Dead and this is the armor he wears:

 

[andy6915]

Korbin is also in the Legion of the Dead and this is the armor he wears:

 

 

That... Looks a bit lighter than the other metal dwarven armor. Could that be what the Legion scout armor was supposed to look like, was that what Sigrun's armor was supposed to be? I like it, that would actually look good on a dwarven rogue. I mean it's still heavy armor, but it's not "massive" heavy.

[TEWR]

Okay I've missed the past few months of this thread (due to college  ) but if someone could give me a run down of the "Titans", and if you all happen to have a consensus of what they are, I would greatly appreciate it. All I know that it is something Kieran said to Cadash in the story.

 

I have a few ideas.

 

We know that the PT Dwarves "feasted upon the gods" and are called the Profane when they turned into Rock Wraiths. They lie outside of the temple, outside of the religious sense of decency. We also know that lyrium is alive, and there's a codex in Inquisition that talks of a Tevinter sculptor who encountered a giant statue that talked -- and it wasn't a Golem.

 

We know that the Golems also exist inside the PT and the Anvil of the Void is too... complex for me to believe that Caridin just made it (plus a codex on the Primeval Thaig is written from an Orzammarian perspective, hinting at there being one near Orzammar). So with the idea that the Anvil is a relic of the PT Dwarves, I have to believe the Titans have something to do with lyrium and the Stone. We know lyrium is alive.

 

Now, looking at the statues in the PT itself and comparing with the ending image from the Descent trailer, it seems similar to one another. Here's a photo I took of the being at the end:

 

 

 

I however don't have a good image of the statues in the PT. This is about all I've got:

 

At least they're similar to my eyes, or perhaps it's a rendition that looks nothing like them but is meant to represent them. So my guess is that lyrium and the Stone are alive, but that they're separate in what the Titans are. That is to say, the Titans are lyrium and the Stone combined and brought to life, and perhaps the Dwarves are what causes the lyrium in the first place. Perhaps they return to the Stone, cause more lyrium to spring up, and this causes something to happen that makes the Stone manifest as a Titan?

 

Or... something but I'm pretty sure I know what might've caused the Titans to go bye-bye. Perhaps the creation of the Veil by Solas, separating the Fade from the mortal realm by way of a barrier, had some sort of effect on the Titans and caused them to dissolve into their components (Stone and lyrium), alive but separate. But with the threat of the seriously weakened Veil and the Breach, it's caused a Titan to come back. Maybe?

 

Can someone compile all the known codexes on the PT, Rock Wraiths, the Stone, lyrium, etc? Anything that might be relevant to this tinfoil posturing I'm attempting to do?

[Caddius]

*dons tin foil hat*

I have only a couple of things worth adding.

Caridin's Journals indicate that he got the idea from the Anvil of the Void from whispers from the ancestors.

The vision the ancestors gave me has come to fruition.

I am honored that the ancestors believe I have the strength to bear this burden and forge Orzammar's defenders.

http://dragonage.wik...ridin's_Journal

It wouldn't surprise me if he actually just found it and used it, as a left-over artifact of the Titans or the Primeval dwarf culture. Or he made it with their aid. *shrug*

 

While this doubles as a Transformers shout-out, this seems the closest to a Titan we've seen in Dragon Age so far. Looking for the blood of the earth, which the Tevinter thinks is lyrium, but that's also used to refer to dragons. Red lyrium seems to be used by Meredith to animate similar statues in the Gallows, which is intriguing.

http://dragonage.wik..._Gate_Guardians

 

Someone with World of Thedas Volume II can fill us in more on the dwarf-captained ships from the west that underwent a great catastrophe, and are always trading to get more lyrium. I can see this as the last remnants of the Primeval culture, or just dwarves servicing the last of the Titans.

I'm leaning toward the ideas that lyrium is either literally the remnants of the dwarves, or it's the remnants of the Titans themselves.

The Temple of Mythal codex suggests some kind of proto-darkspawn. Pillars of the earth could be either the Old Gods, something completely different, or the Titans, with the proto-darkspawn actually being corrupted dwarves.

http://dragonage.wik...d_Elven_Writing

[Caddius]

...So.

According to the wiki entry for Primeval Thaig, the Claws of Dumat found in the Fade during Inquisition are also seen in the Primeval Thaig. 

The Claws being used for blood sacrifice of elves on a massive scale to enter the Black City in the flesh.

I have no idea what to make of this yet.

http://dragonage.wik.../Primeval_Thaig

http://dragonage.wik..._Claws_of_Dumat

 

Other useful entries.

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Valdasine

http://dragonage.wik...ent_Rock_Wraith

http://dragonage.wik...iki/Rock_wraith

[andy6915]

Golems do indeed predate the anvil of the void, which we see in the primeval thaig. So I too think that he merely got the idea from elsewhere, he didn't come up with it himself.