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[Gilsa]

Wow!! That's just stupendous! The outfits totally feel lore-friendly, too. Great job.

[Merela]

Wow!! That's just stupendous! The outfits totally feel lore-friendly, too. Great job.

 

Thank you, Gil'! Askthebroodyelf really did a great job. Fjal' outfit is based on a "retexture for Halamshiral outfits" mod I once saw on Tumblr, and Cass' dress is based on a real medieval-themed wedding dress. I'm happy it suits her so well.

[Gilsa]

Found it and reblogged it. The world needs MOAR CADASH AND CASSANDRA.

[Caddius]

Corypheus actually only has red lyrium grafted onto his person in Inquisition, as a result of Bianca contacting him and him discovering it bears the taint and thus allows him to use it as fuel for his spells along with the whole 'power of the Blight' thing. Look at his Legacy rendition. It's absent.

 

Remember, the Magisters of old were reputed to have used the blood of countless slaves and 2/3 of the lyrium they had to breach the Fade, but it's clear that it happened in their homeland (see the note on the Claws of Dumat. It takes place in Sethius' home).

 

It's also a fact that a kossith settlement in the south of the Korcari Wilds fell prey to the Darkspawn before the Magisters entered the Golden City by about 20 or so years. Which is pretty clear that the Magisters are not the first Darkspawn, merely the first Awakened Darkspawn. And with my theory on page 269 that the Darkspawn are the result of a corrupted Titan -- since Genlocks were the first ones noted to be seen -- it would explain a lot. 

 

And no, those from Orzammar don't believe it. As one example, you have Shaper Czibor's entries on the matter saying it's all a load of BS.

 

Why would Cory have discovered the PT then only to have to be told about it again, when no Darkspawn has ever set foot in there?

 

Hell, you'd have to explain to me how in the same year the Magisters invaded Dumat got tainted when it takes the Darkspawn centuries to find one through tunneling efforts.

I'm in agreement with most of this, especially that darkspawn have probably been around for longer than the magisters. As the dwarves tend to point out, it stretches plausibility that the magisters breached the Black City, fell, created other darkspawn, uncovered Dumat, and started a massive assault. It looks like darkspawn were already nipping at the empty stretches of the Deep Roads between thaigs for a number of years, growing in strength. By the time Aeducan started to lead forays against them, Dumat was in charge. *shrug*

However, the kossith colony wasn't wiped out before the First Blight, wasn't it? It was established about fifteen years before the First Blight is said to start. It's just that the Wiki Timeline mentions it being wiped out by darkspawn during the Blight in the same entry, to save space.  

Also worth noting that Corypheus has blue lyrium in him in Legacy, matching the accounts of ancient Magisters being mutated by lyrium. 

[Tishina]

Next chapter

 

https://www.fanficti...Acerbic-Alchemy

http://archiveofouro...apters/10481373

[themageguy]

I really want to play a dwarf who can draw upon a titans power and shape the stone.

The earthy abilities of the earth shaker sha brytol are soooooo damn awesome.

Makes stonefist seem lacking lol

[themageguy]

Actually if they do bring about a magic using dwarf class in future games, i hope that their magic is a bit of mix mash of stone spells, force mage spells from dragon age 2, and enhanced melee attacks.

Leave the lightning, flame and frost to the surfacers

[SgtSteel91]

Stonefist can work for Mages and "Shapers." Like Mages make the Stonefist from rocks in the Fade, like the Rift Mage ability describes while the Dwarven one could be making it from surrounding rocks.

[Qun00]

From what I've heard, all the Descent DLC does is hint at stuff. Nothing in the way of big revelations.

That seems somewhat disappointing.

[Andraste_Reborn]

From what I've heard, all the Descent DLC does is hint at stuff. Nothing in the way of big revelations.

That seems somewhat disappointing.

 

I would say that the existence of

 

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gigantic living beings in the Stone whose blood is lyrium is a pretty big revelation. Not to mention that we now know there's another group of - possibly immortal - ancient dwarves under the Deep Roads, and have a much better idea of what the Rock Wraith was in DA2. We may not know all the details about the Titans yet, but their existence is still an important reveal.

[Qun00]

But was their existence in doubt before?

For instance, nobody's ever seen an Old God but everyone agrees they exist.

[Reznore57]

But was their existence in doubt before?

For instance, nobody's ever seen an Old God but everyone agrees they exist.

 

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It's not like their existence was in doubt , it's more nobody remembers the Titans , they were erased from history.

 

We , as player , knew something called Titans may have existed because the OGB says the word Titan to a dwarf Inqui.

But in game ,except maybe a few very special snowflakes no one knows there are huge creature underground , that lyrium is the blood of those creature and that the dwarves used to have a deep bond with them. 

[Tishina]

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It's not like their existence was in doubt , it's more nobody remembers the Titans , they were erased from history.

 

We , as player , knew something called Titans may have existed because the OGB says the word Titan to a dwarf Inqui.

But in game ,except maybe a few very special snowflakes no one knows there are huge creature underground , that lyrium is the blood of those creature and that the dwarves used to have a deep bond with them. 

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Exactly. Even the existence of something dwarves underground were connected to (the Stone) has mostly been treated as a myth in game except for dwarves born underground. Now the surfacers have evidence that dwarven religion has a basis. And if there was any information even metagaming as to the actual source of lyrium, I've never seen it before this. It creates huge new questions about magic, the fade, Templars, etc.

[Gilsa]

I'm big on quotes, but I've been waiting for people to have a chance on the game before I started pulling random tidbits I enjoyed from the DLC. However, this quote is relevant to Tish's comment above:

 

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After Renn dies:

Cole: "It sings softly under the silence. The Stone took him back. He's home again."

Valta: "Somehow that brings me comfort."

 

That kinda blew me away. Like Tish said, the Stone had mostly been treated as a myth in the game, that we only had the dwarves' word for it. Now we were watching an underground dwarf listening to the Stone and describing what it sounded like (air through lungs). She actually led us in the right direction, even pointing out that a room with bonus loot wasn't necessary. Cole senses the Stone and reinforces that the dwarven belief system is an actual thing. It makes characters like Varric a lot more interesting because he chose to be Andrastian instead of a believer in the Stone. And that is a religion that specifically excludes elves and dwarves.

[Merela]

I'm big on quotes, but I've been waiting for people to have a chance on the game before I started pulling random tidbits I enjoyed from the DLC. However, this quote is relevant to Tish's comment above:

 

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After Renn dies:

Cole: "It sings softly under the silence. The Stone took him back. He's home again."

Valta: "Somehow that brings me comfort."

 

That kinda blew me away. Like Tish said, the Stone had mostly been treated as a myth in the game, that we only had the dwarves' word for it. Now we were watching an underground dwarf listening to the Stone and describing what it sounded like (air through lungs). She actually led us in the right direction, even pointing out that a room with bonus loot wasn't necessary. Cole senses the Stone and reinforces that the dwarven belief system is an actual thing. It makes characters like Varric a lot more interesting because he chose to be Andrastian instead of a believer in the Stone. And that is a religion that specifically excludes elves and dwarves.

 

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Not only Varric but Cadash as well, depending of how you play them. During the conversation with Josephine back in Haven, Fjalar made fun of the stone sens of dwarves and what he considered to be archaic believes (aka "worshipping ghosts" and "listening to pebbles"). He's, after all, a staunch Andrastrian. Yet during The Descent, he went from "Nothing indicates it's actually a Titan (Renn approves)" to "Yep, we're definitely inside a Titan.". It was an interesting change to watch.

[Gilsa]

@Merela -- HAH, that's one heck of a character growth! =D

[Merela]

@Merela -- HAH, that's one heck of a character growth! =D

 

Thanks to the DLC! I was really happy with the Descent and how it impacted Fjal'.

[TEWR]

I'm big on quotes, but I've been waiting for people to have a chance on the game before I started pulling random tidbits I enjoyed from the DLC. However, this quote is relevant to Tish's comment above:

 

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After Renn dies:

Cole: "It sings softly under the silence. The Stone took him back. He's home again."

Valta: "Somehow that brings me comfort."

 

That kinda blew me away. Like Tish said, the Stone had mostly been treated as a myth in the game, that we only had the dwarves' word for it. Now we were watching an underground dwarf listening to the Stone and describing what it sounded like (air through lungs). She actually led us in the right direction, even pointing out that a room with bonus loot wasn't necessary. Cole senses the Stone and reinforces that the dwarven belief system is an actual thing. It makes characters like Varric a lot more interesting because he chose to be Andrastian instead of a believer in the Stone. And that is a religion that specifically excludes elves and dwarves.

 

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Yup, and how later on Valta says she can hear Renn even. I did like these little bits that make the Dwarven belief system legit

 

Take that Chantry!

[TEWR]

Also am I the only one who was kinda annoyed at the codex from Josephine trying to explain how we should act around Orzammar Dwarves if we're a Dwarf ourselves? I mean I realize we're in the Carta but still, it bugged the **** out of me being told that stuff.

[Sifr]

Am I the only one curious that now they've been debunked as Titans, what the giant creatures that inspired the Gate Guardians are?

 

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Were they just giant Golems, some kind of Rock-Wraith and/or Titan Guardian, or something else?

 

[Bhryaen]

Funny the "recent" mention of magic-using dwarves in this thread. I just went to the Hissing Plains for the first time and in one of the ruins came up a codex entry speculating about how dwarves were able to "install" magic demon-summoning traps into their crypt puzzles. Research into the question revealed that there was a dwarven word used in related ancient literature that meant something like "stone waste" or "stone impurity" as part of the explanation, asserting dwarves are able to draw magic from the properties of stone! Dwarven Stone Mage- new DA class... XD

[Tishina]

Funny the "recent" mention of magic-using dwarves in this thread. I just went to the Hissing Plains for the first time and in one of the ruins came up a codex entry speculating about how dwarves were able to "install" magic demon-summoning traps into their crypt puzzles. Research into the question revealed that there was a dwarven word used in related ancient literature that meant something like "stone waste" or "stone impurity" as part of the explanation, asserting dwarves are able to draw magic from the properties of stone! Dwarven Stone Mage- new DA class... XD

I saw those in the Hissing Waste just yesterday too, and was thinking about them!

[Sifr]

Also am I the only one who was kinda annoyed at the codex from Josephine trying to explain how we should act around Orzammar Dwarves if we're a Dwarf ourselves? I mean I realize we're in the Carta but still, it bugged the **** out of me being told that stuff.

 

I think that it's made up for by the minor reveal that Cadash is our second bilingual Inquisitor (after Lavellan) and able to read Ancient Dwarven. Even if they are a little "rusty" with it, it was cool to know they'd actually learned the language when most dwarves (on the surface and even in Orzammar) no longer bother to learn it at all.

 

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It'd have been even better if when Valta returned Renn to the Stone, Cadash and/or Varric had chimed with "Atrast tunsha. Totarnia amgetol tavash aeduc", uttering the full funeral rite as a sign of respect. We don't know how fluent Varric is, but he at least knows that bit of dwarven from Legacy.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Doesn't Adaar know some Qunlat words?

[TEWR]

Funny the "recent" mention of magic-using dwarves in this thread. I just went to the Hissing Plains for the first time and in one of the ruins came up a codex entry speculating about how dwarves were able to "install" magic demon-summoning traps into their crypt puzzles. Research into the question revealed that there was a dwarven word used in related ancient literature that meant something like "stone waste" or "stone impurity" as part of the explanation, asserting dwarves are able to draw magic from the properties of stone! Dwarven Stone Mage- new DA class... XD

 

Cole mentions that they used to be Dwarves and still think they're Dwarves, as I recall.

 

Remember the Gangue Shade, and given Valta's comment on feeling Renn in the Stone, and things seem like they might piece together.