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[Andreas Amell]

Does anybody wonder if connecting with a Titan could cure Bartrand's madness? 

[Sifr]

Doesn't Adaar know some Qunlat words?

 

My best guess is that Adaar only knows a smattering of Qunlat they picked up from either their parents or other Vashoth/Tal-Vashoth they've worked with. They don't seem to know it well enough that they don't have to ask Bull to provide a translation whenever he's said something in Qunlat.

 

Does make sense though why Cadash and Lavellan are more fluent in their respective ancestral language than Adaar is, since Dwarves (even on the surface) and the Dalish tend to value tradition, whereas Tal-Vashoth and Vashoth might try to distance themselves from the Qunari language as part of their rejection of the Qun and anything associated with it.

 

Cole mentions that they used to be Dwarves and still think they're Dwarves, as I recall.

 

Remember the Gangue Shade, and given Valta's comment on feeling Renn in the Stone, and things seem like they might piece together.

 

With how the Gangue Shade might tie into things regarding the Stone, makes you wonder what other Origins enemies that we thought were inconsequential at the time might actually be important lorewise, such as the Trickster Whim, Fade Beast and Shah Wyrd?

[Caddius]

Malvernis, the bonus boss in Legacy, definitely looks a lot more interesting now. Turning the Stone into slime and wreaking enough havoc on the dwarves that they bury him on the surface.

[TEWR]

Does anybody wonder if connecting with a Titan could cure Bartrand's madness? 

 

Bartrand's madness seems to be the result of connecting with a Blighted Titan. Given that lyrium is the blood of a Titan, and red lyrium which originated in the PT is corrupted, it stands to reason that somewhere there's a Blighted Titan out there. Probably is the source of the Darkspawn, and has some ties to the Golden City, on some level.

 

Or maybe the lyrium's Blighted, but the Titan is dead. Wouldn't be surprised if BW pulled a Lovecraftian reference by having a dead Titan and saying "even dead gods can dream", like they did in ME2.

 

His mind's already connected to one. Probably isn't gonna do him, or another Titan, any good if he connects to one now. Valta seems to have a symbiotic relationship going on, where she draws from it and it draws from her a touch. I imagine the same would apply for Bartrand, and a new Titan might experience madness, if not some level of Blight.

[Andreas Amell]

How do we know the song of another Titan won't overcome the tainted effects of Blighted lyrium? 

[TEWR]

We don't, but as of now, based on what we know, it's a long shot with not a whole lot going in its favor.

 

As an aside, we know that in the Hissing Wastes Bull and Cadash will have a convo about the tombs -- more then likely Inq. and Bull, rather then solely Cadash -- and Varric and Cadash get one as well.

 

Do the other companions get anything? I brought Sera and Cole for one journey and Cole does say about the Demons in the tombs "They used to be Dwarves. They think they still are" like I thought, but Sera's comment to all of what happened was, upon Nasir saying that he lit the wrong order and it wasn't right, "Ya think?!".

 

Which made me laugh, but I was hoping those two would have their own things to say.

 

Of course I still need to open the final tomb now that key's made, so maybe there's something?

 

EDIT: alas, they were quiet here as well. Unless Varric overrides them. I brought him along as well but I thought that Varric and Bull both played even if they were in the party together. My memory might be wrong though.

 

....one would think Dorian might have something to say as well.

[Tishina]

How do we know the song of another Titan won't overcome the tainted effects of Blighted lyrium? 

It might, but you'd risk that untainted Titan being tainted instead. Is it worth risking something that's fairly catastrophic to save one person?

[Gilsa]

@TEWR -- As far as I know, only Varric, Iron Bull, and Blackwall have commentaries for the tombs (the long ones). I don't know the priority order, but I know Varric will override Blackwall if they're in the same group. Sera will tease Blackwall if they're in a group together during the commentaries. Dorian will make a snark to Iron Bull if they're together. I don't recall anyone joining in for Varric.

 

Another thing I noticed was that if you're in the Crestwood flooded caves and you come across the nugs, Cole will comment on the dwarves not remembering the dwarves. And I'm not positive if Varric will override Cadash, but whenever I had him in group, he definitely did. (Too tedious to investigate as it's random which party member will comment on the nugs -- even if I just brought both Cole and Varric, sometimes Varric will be the one to talk about braised nugs instead of Cole speaking up. Argh.)

 

Edit: Found my transcript of what these three have to say: http://gilsa-childof...companion-tales

[Drumknott]

So, I've only just completed Descent, had to get high enough level in this run, so had to wait a couple of weeks!

 

It was quite good, although I'm not sure about the ending. Still, it was fun to walk around with Snake.

 

 

My inquisitor having one of those days..

 

[FrankWisdom]

So, I've only just completed Descent, had to get high enough level in this run, so had to wait a couple of weeks!

 

It was quite good, although I'm not sure about the ending. Still, it was fun to walk around with Snake.

 

 

My inquisitor having one of those days..

 

 

Holy crap... Miley Cyrus just got dwarfed y'all!!! (that was just an impression ... I don't really talk like that... I swear 

 

 

 

[myahele]

In DAO, Leliana's friend had an ancient Dwarven incantation of "The Stone lives beneath Orlais." So I guess it's safe to assume that's true?

 

But I want to know why would the Stone lead Valta and co. to the Storm coast, rather than near Orlais?

 

I am more or less convinced that there is a Blighted Titan ... or maybe the Taint is just naturally occuring to that Titan and that Titan had blighted/ proto-darkspawn within it.

 

Since the breach "stirred" the Titan in Storm Coast and was also stirred "over 1000 years ago" then perhaps the Red Lyrium Titan awoke when the Magisters breached the Fade.

 

It's said that Titans shaped the world "within(real world?) and without (fade?) so maybe Red Lyrium Titan is doing that?

[Sifr]

Some thoughts on the Titans and the Old Gods;

 

Spoiler

What if some of the Titans have become the prisons that the Old Gods were locked inside of, supposedly deep within the earth?

 

It could actually explain a bit about how it takes the Darkspawn such a long period of time to both seek out and manage to breach the Old God's prisons, as well as why the Sha-Brytol were so obsessed with wearing protective armour and preventing anything from getting close.

 

According to the Ancient Warden mine, there is an Archdemon prison in the Western Approach that might still have one of the Old Gods held within, since even though the Second Blight struck that region badly, it did not begun there but in the Anderfels.

 

Next door to that is the Abyssal Rift, the sort of massive chasm in the earth that a Titan could have potentially caused at some point in the distant past, assuming that they are (or responsible for) Thedas' tectonic plates.

 

Course, it's a little circumstantial and the Abyssal Rift could be naturally occurring, but using the Titans to serve as the prisons for the Old Gods would make a ton of sense for whomever sealed them in there, as a Titan would be an extremely secure location.

[90s Kai]

Hello Dwarflings!
 
Well as some of you may know the trailer for the new DLC came out! And, by the Ancestors, it looks good! And EPIC! (and if you haven't seen it go to the Solas Thread on page 4463 and check it out!) 
 
Anywho!!!!
 
It seems like this is going to be the last DLC.. So how do you guys feel about your Cadash's and what their mark on Thedas has been? Postive, negative, neutral, funny, serious etc???
 
And what about your relationships with 

Spoiler

Solas? Good? Bad? Meh? And when he left how did your Inquisitor feel about it?

[Gilsa]

I saw!! The good news is that fans are finally going to get their closure on Solas, which is what they've asked for every single time a DLC has come out. I feel like Descent has gotten punished for not being a Wolf Hunt. Now that this is coming out, I see people talking about also picking up Descent now, which makes sense. When people are happy, they start picking up the other things they skipped over in protest.

 

I like my Cadash. I don't know that I wanted her to stay as an Inquisitor because she's just a thug flying by the skin of her teeth. She did her job in closing the Breach, but I don't see it as her job to run things politically, etc. I'm curious how things will end for her, especially if this is the last DLC. Morrigan was right that people were going to be gunning for the Inquisitor because she/he is so powerful now.

 

My relationship with ...

 

Spoiler

Solas was on very good terms with Cadash. No ill will for him departing. Do what you gotta do. I don't think my Cadash has any questions for him unless the DLC gives her a reason to look for him.

 

My second Cadash was bugged and never got that Haven dream scene so they actually ended the game not being friends or on good terms. I was annoyed at first, but am glad it played out this way so I can see if this changes his reaction at all when I run through the DLC a second time. I'm a nerd for dialogue variations. =p

[90s Kai]

@Gilsa

 

That's how my Cadash felt. After dealing with the Mage-Templar war, the Wardens and then the Winter palace, sealing the Breach was just the final nail in the coffin for her. She felt like her job was done and she leave the Inquisition and (maybe) start a family. Her experience overall was a positive one. She made long-lasting friendships, met the love of her life and helped save the world. Couldn't get any better than that right? 

[Tishina]

Hello Dwarflings!
 
Well as some of you may know the trailer for the new DLC came out! And, by the Ancestors, it looks good! And EPIC! (and if you haven't seen it go to the Solas Thread on page 4463 and check it out!) 
 
Anywho!!!!
 
It seems like this is going to be the last DLC.. So how do you guys feel about your Cadash's and what their mark on Thedas has been? Postive, negative, neutral, funny, serious etc???
 
And what about your relationships with 

Spoiler

Solas? Good? Bad? Meh? And when he left how did your Inquisitor feel about it?

Spoiler

My Dalish Solasmancer? She just wants answers on why he broke up. I refuse to hold out any hope of a happy ending for her since I batted 0 for 0 in any of the romances being something I could really enjoy (I didn't even get a Zevran cameo or a kiss from Harding, lol.)

 

Reska Cadash? She was probably just as glad to see him go. Didn't particularly like or trust him, but preferred he stayed ahead of any goon squads rounding up mages too.

 

Zhenya hasn't gotten that far yet and I haven't really decided what their relationship will be. She kept him in her group all the way up until In Your Heart Shall Burn because Dorian's going to be the mage for her group, and they were hitting it off pretty well. Reactions in the DLC will probably depend on his explanations...

[TEWR]

Hello Dwarflings!
 
Well as some of you may know the trailer for the new DLC came out! And, by the Ancestors, it looks good! And EPIC! (and if you haven't seen it go to the Solas Thread on page 4463 and check it out!) 
 
Anywho!!!!
 
It seems like this is going to be the last DLC.. So how do you guys feel about your Cadash's and what their mark on Thedas has been? Postive, negative, neutral, funny, serious etc???
 
And what about your relationships with 

Spoiler

Solas? Good? Bad? Meh? And when he left how did your Inquisitor feel about it?

 

Nasir grew into the role of Inquisitor in my 'Verse, though he ade it a point to bring in Hawke and my Aeducan as Inquisitors as well -- in fact, both the companion cast and my other OCs feature, and they're Inquisitors too, with Nasir/Tobias/Xanthos being High Inquisitors -- to try and balance out the power dynamic because he didn't trust himself to have carte blanche authority over the Inquisition -- particularly after his run-in with the Envy demon after he got the Mages.

 

He tried to make the world a better place though, righting wrongs and all that, while also playing by the rules as much as possible and if need be breaking them. So his mark on Thedas is overall good, though he will be understandably pissed that after all he's done... after all the hard work... it's still not enough and he will be called to answer for things.

 

(honestly excited to hear Nasir get pissed. When he got angry at Cass and Varric I was so happy)

 

Though in my 'Verse Nasir's mark -- the actual one, though I realize you didn't ask about this -- has troubled him since... well... the beginning. It causes him pain, the magic spreads, makes him ill, etc. Josephine will even ask what it's like and Nasir answered that it feels like his nerves are on fire.

 

Spoiler

As for Dr. Eggman, Nasir and he were on good terms when they left, though in my 'Verse Nasir was privy to his secret (wasn't the only one in fact) after time passed, facts were found, and information dug up. Of course, he does have a lot of questions for him, but he does consider Solas his friend.

 

Marisa Lavellan on the other hand... while she loves him and does know his secret, she did not appreciate him leaving without saying goodbye or even taking her. And she's going to be pissed and maybe try to slug him.

[TEWR]

Cool, I just had a Hissing Wastes specific banter between Bull and Sera (I think). It wasn't tied to the Dwarf stuff, just the area. I'm paraphrasing a lot of it because it wasn't until Sera's last line that I even thought I got an area banter.

 

Bull: You know, I think I like it here

Sera: I've seen better. It's boring.

Bull: I like it. It's simple. You get up, get going, stop at camp. It's direct.

Sera: Nobles keep sand for their nugs.

 

I dunno something like that.

[Andreas Amell]

It might, but you'd risk that untainted Titan being tainted instead. Is it worth risking something that's fairly catastrophic to save one person?

I really doubt one broken mind will affect an overmind like a Titan. It's more likely Titans are the more dominant mind. And the more dwarves that are connected to it will lessen any chance of Bartrand's illness affecting it. 

[Gilsa]

@TEWR - Interesting. Never got that one. So much depends on who is in the group and where and when. Mind reels.

[Tishina]

I really doubt one broken mind will affect an overmind like a Titan. It's more likely Titans are the more dominant mind. And the more dwarves that are connected to it will lessen any chance of Bartrand's illness affecting it. 

I'm not sure physical size or dominant mind matters in this instance. A virus can be deadly and you can't even see it, and the taint can corrupt lyrium which is a Titan's blood (the reason I use that particular comparison.) Also consider a computer virus which can be a relatively tiny line of code and the damage it can do. Bartrand's one person, and not even that important (maybe not even to Varric) in the larger scheme of things, so I don't personally see the benefit as worth even a small risk of the contact corrupting a Titan since it appears they can be tainted.

[Andreas Amell]

You assume Bartrand's illness is contagious like the people used to think insanity was contagious.

 

FYI: it's not.

 

Bartrand's condition could just be the same as other lyrium-addled people, except his was caused by red lyrium. 

[Andreas Amell]

Moving to another topic:

 

Does anything think surface dwarves should reclaim Kal Repartha as a colony in the Hissing Wastes? 

[Spectre4hire]

So with the new Golden Nug feature coming in the next patch. 

 

I'll have my legion of the dead armor ready for my early Cadashes while I'm still at Haven? No more riding through the hissing wastes with a level 12 dwarf frantically avoiding all the rifts and venatori while trying to to get to the ruin and unlock the legion of the dead schematic. 

 

Thanks, Bioware. 

[Tishina]

So with the new Golden Nug feature coming in the next patch. 

 

I'll have my legion of the dead armor ready for my early Cadashes while I'm still at Haven? No more riding through the hissing wastes with a level 12 dwarf frantically avoiding all the rifts and venatori while trying to to get to the ruin and unlock the legion of the dead schematic. 

 

Thanks, Bioware. 

Yep! Considering how expensive some of those patterns are, and you get them late in game and they're race restricted, I'm SO relieved. Especially for the one I bought without realizing there was a race restriction. By the time I realized I not only couldn't use it, I couldn't even use it for a companion, I was too far past that point to want to go back and load a save game, sigh. Now, that pattern might finally get used, lol.