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[Bhryaen]

The detractors don't seem to recognize that any attention is good attention. If the devs see that their work evokes emotional reactions, they know they've done good. Surprised though. In as brief a time as I've been on this thread there've already been two "me hates yoos" posts. Haven't paid attention to any elf or qunari threads to see if they get the same.

 

@merela

Friggin' awesome having Fjalar on that poster!

 

I never romanced Alidude after it seemed he forced my elf girl into a grappling kiss, but I'm getting a kick out of dwarfy romance gifts. What about gems that we can pick from the Stone as commonly as surfacers find their odd plants? "Here, my love, for you... a cup of purest lava from the lyrium springs near Aeducan Thaig." *they bask in its warmth and share their first kiss* Even in the Deep Roads ya can't stop da love flowin'...

[vertigomez]

The detractors don't seem to recognize that any attention is good attention. If the devs see that their work evokes emotional reactions, they know they've done good. Surprised though. In as brief a time as I've been on this thread there've already been two "me hates yoos" posts. Haven't paid attention to any elf or qunari threads to see if they get the same.
 
@merela
Friggin' awesome having Fjalar on that poster!
 
I never romanced Alidude after it seemed he forced my elf girl into a grappling kiss, but I'm getting a kick out of dwarfy romance gifts. What about gems that we can pick from the Stone as commonly as surfacers find their odd plants? Here, my love, for you... a cup of purest lava from the lyrium springs near Aeducan Thaig. *they bask in its warmth and share their first kiss* Even in the Deep Roads ya can't stop da love flowin'...

Oh man, we get the occasional flame but elf threads spontaneously combust.

As for dwarfy gifts, I remember Olinda said something about Leske "getting another ribbon for his girl". Unless that's some sort of weird euphemism , I'm betting that surface goods in general are in high demand.

[TEWR]

Worst race in the series. Bioware should just cut them completely from CC since only a select few even bother to plays as them.

 

Your trolling game is weak, young grasshopper.

[Merela]

 

A few months ago, I made a post about the french comic book series "Nains" and its first volume, Redwin de la Forge. The second volume, titled Ordo du Talion, has been released last wednesday. It tells the story of Ordo, the sixth and last child of a distinguished family of the Order of the Talion (the name of the old dwarven coin); born the sixth day of the sixth month, he's destined to be given at the age of six to the Black Lodge, an order of assassins in the service of the Talion. Thirty years later, Ordo has become a master assassin and has woved to avenge himself for all his suffering by sneaking into the Order's most impregnable fortress and stealing their most precious treasure.

 

Do not ask me which story I prefered between Redwin's and Ordo's - let's just say both deserve a hug. Like, the biggest hug ever. Poor guys. The Order of theTalion made me think of the surface Merchant Guild, and the Black Lodge was what the Carta could be if it was under the Guild's direct control and not run by casteless thugs. Next volume will be about the Order of the Temple, who are scholars and priests and craftsmen - the exact release date hasn't been settled yet except for the month: february 2016.

 

And dammit, I can't wait.

 

(An excerpt of the comic has been released on the net - I'm putting it under the spoiler tag. It's in french, but if you want a translation, do not hesitate to ask - I'll do my best.)

Spoiler

[Bhryaen]

@merela

See, I was never a big dwarf enthusiast until DAO (despite my main character in NWN being a dorf), but that sort of material piques my interest. Given the explicit history of the Cadash clan, it's completely believable that they'd be another Antivan Crows in the DAverse rather than "just a bunch of carta thugs." Exiled from the Deep Roads by fate, there's no reason they wouldn't have forged more of a name for themselves on the surface and had that same sort of standing in Thedas as the "Order du Talion." (Damn "Shadows of Mordor" for making the name Talion stick in my head for different reasons. haha)

 

EDIT:

That poster is awesome! (Except maybe the hair...) I wanna Ordo! Funny though- he seems to be stepping on a Skyrim warrior's helm.

[Tishina]

Best to ignore the trolls, feeding them is what they want.

 

Hey, heads up, a dwarf couple mods worth noting at Nexus:

 

-- DF outerwear at Skyhold: http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/910/?

 

--  Hawke's warpaint for dwarves: http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/896/?

 

I like the availability of the latter because I thought long and hard about tattoos for my dwarf and decided that if it wasn't mandatory, then I didn't see my surfacer doing it on purpose. There was dwarf merchant in DAO that talked about painting temporary tattoos on when they had to sell in the Diamond Quarter and wiping it off when they left. That always stuck with me, the idea of just painting things on without conforming. So that's why Hawke's warpaint mod appeals to me on some level.

Thanks! I'd love Hawke's warpaint as an addition to Zhenya's red badger mask, but I'm not sure I want a replacement.

[Tishina]

Oh man, we get the occasional flame but elf threads spontaneously combust.

As for dwarfy gifts, I remember Olinda said something about Leske "getting another ribbon for his girl". Unless that's some sort of weird euphemism , I'm betting that surface goods in general are in high demand.

It's one of the reasons the regulars on here work so hard to keep things respectful; it really doesn't take much to cause an explosion. I think the durability and activity of the thread supports how popular they are, but also how popular dwarfdom has the potential to be if they had the chance (i.e. better quality of cutscenes, romances we aren't shoe-horned into, a 3rd class...)

 

I think anything they can't easliy produce themselves (most fabrics, leather, wooden items, luxury foods, for instance) would be in high demand.

[Bhryaen]

I just went a-searchin' for this thread's OP- ladylionhart- via Google. Apparently she only posted to the Deviant Art site a couple weeks ago, so she's still active even if she seems to have abandoned Bioware's forum months ago. She does remain kinda cool:

 

"I go by the name of Sabriel, or LadyLionhart. I’m 23 years old, from South Africa, and have been reading (and writing stories and poems) ever since I can remember. I’ve always loved stories, whether I read them in a book or watched them happen in a movie. Writing is one of my biggest passions, and it’s one of the best ways I can express myself in. Therefore, I hope you enjoy the fanfictions that I post here!

 

"I’ve been reading fanfics for a very, very long time and through every tough time I go through in life, I always turn to fanfiction and original stories. It’s my way of dealing with hardships – throw yourself into a book, and by the time you stop reading, your own problems will seem much more manageable than before. I hope that by posting my own fan stories, I might place a smile upon someone’s face, whoever they might be, like so many fanfictions have done for me!"

 

She mentions DA as one of her most influential games, mind you. I couldn't manage to navigate the Deviant Art site (due to some prior account I don't recall) enough to send a "note" mentioning to read her BW forum messages. *grumble* Maybe someone else can? She's also on Tumblr. I'm not- no interest at present.

[Bhryaen]

Have you guys seen this thread mentioning this YT vid? OMT (Oh, my Titans!) I'm floored again... No longer a Sandal detractor. Long live the Prophet! Screw Solas. The Song of the "hive-mind" is the primary concern. (EDIT: Kate Mulgrew: "Alas, so long as the music plays, we dance.") The Song must be Don Henley's "All She Wants to Do Is Dance." Worst, most repetitive, catchy song ever! "All she want to is-" No, it isn't all she wants to do!!!!

[AndornArakh]

Hey gurs, just a bit off topic, but I'm wondering how Kal-Sharok would look. I've just gotten back to re-reading The Last Thane which details the fall of the dwarves in Krynn. Hybardin itself is a giant stalactite in a great cavern that is home to the dwarven equivalent of high elves and is multicolored and vibrant, it would make an interesting contrast the the rock and fire of Orzammar.

[AndornArakh]

@merela--my only complaint about the series is that it does not contain an english translation. The art and designs are amazing I just wish i could what is going on in the story.

[Remki]

She mentions DA as one of her most influential games, mind you. I couldn't manage to navigate the Deviant Art site (due to some prior account I don't recall) enough to send a "note" mentioning to read her BW forum messages. *grumble* Maybe someone else can? She's also on Tumblr. I'm not- no interest at present.

 

Ooh, she's a Sabriel fan, neat! What's her tumblr? Is it the same as her name here? I could message her on there. It's even possible I already follow her, the Sabriel fandom is pretty small and we generally all follow each other on there (but I follow literally about 700 blogs so I'd have to check through my list to see if I do).

 

Have you guys seen this thread mentioning this YT vid? OMT (Oh, my Titans!) I'm floored again... No longer a Sandal detractor. Long live the Prophet! Screw Solas. The Song of the "hive-mind" is the primary concern. (EDIT: Kate Mulgrew: "Alas, so long as the music plays, we dance.") The Song must be Don Henley's "All She Wants to Do Is Dance." Worst, most repetitive, catchy song ever! "All she want to is-" No, it isn't all she wants to do!!!!

 

That's video is... really interesting. I haven't played the Decent DLC so I'm only going off what she said in the video. But if it's true it makes a lot of sense. It feels a lot like Cthulhu, actually. Dead gods who aren't quite dead, whose followers are mindless drones under their will, shaping the world in their sleeping and waiting for the day when their eons-long machinations herald their awakening. I mean the Blight is freaking creepy and the whole thing with Solas and the Evanuris is going to be a shitstorm for the ages, but if this is also part of it? Man, Thedas is way darker than we thought, and that's saying something.

 

I think she's missing someone though (at least in the video, I didn't read her extended theory version on her blog). Yes, Flemeth puts Hawke on the road to Kirkwall and helps start things there, but it's VARRIC that takes Hawke to the Deep roads. It's Varric and Bartrand who hear about the lost Thaig and mount the expedition to get it. And it's Varric who continues research on the red lyrium even after everything that happens because of the idol. And Varric has said he sometimes hears the Song, but he manages somehow to resist. If the theory is true, Varric is as much a big player in this scheme as the others, possibly more so because unlike Sandal and Flemeth, Varic directly impacts events with his own actions, rather than "nudging" them as Flemth does or as Sandal predicts. Which would probably p*ss off Varric to no end if he knew he was being used as a pawn for more lyrium bullshit.

 

So if it's true, I really hope it doesn't mean that when/if the Titan awakes all the dwarves will turn basically into zombies. It would be a really shitty treatment to a race that's often given the short straw in the games. It would be super cool, however, if it were true and dwarves were the ones that led the fight against the Song and became front & center in saving Thedas from that particular threat. Guess we have to wait and see.

[TEWR]

Have you guys seen this thread mentioning this YT vid? OMT (Oh, my Titans!) I'm floored again... No longer a Sandal detractor. Long live the Prophet! Screw Solas. The Song of the "hive-mind" is the primary concern. (EDIT: Kate Mulgrew: "Alas, so long as the music plays, we dance.") The Song must be Don Henley's "All She Wants to Do Is Dance." Worst, most repetitive, catchy song ever! "All she want to is-" No, it isn't all she wants to do!!!!

 

I've seen part of it. Been meaning to get into the whole thing.

 

But I personally find that a lot of LadyInsanity's theories are too... off, for my tastes. I don't really buy into them.

 

Fun to listen to though.

[Merela]

@merela--my only complaint about the series is that it does not contain an english translation. The art and designs are amazing I just wish i could what is going on in the story.

 

I understand how it can be frustrating. Most english comic books are translated into french eventually, but I don't think the reverse is true - which is a shame, because there are not many comic books about dwarves to begin with. Maybe if enough people asked Soleil (the editor) for a translation? I don't know.

 

(It makes me happy to see Redwin as your avatar. )

[FrankWisdom]

I understand how it can be frustrating. Most english comic books are translated into french eventually, but I don't think the reverse is true - which is a shame, because there are not many comic books about dwarves to begin with. Maybe if enough people asked Soleil (the editor) for a translation? I don't know.

 

(It makes me happy to see Redwin as your avatar. )

Soleil are also partnered with Delcourt who make translations for a couple of their most popular comics. Ironically the new title "Elfes" was translated, "Elves", but it's only a two issue special from what I saw. I'm bilingual (French Canadian) so I have no problem reading French or English (even though I much prefer English) but I understand your frustration. The artwork, at the very least, is amazing, I'm glad they are promoted by Comixology, or I never would've heard of this comic label!

 

Interestingly enough, they also have a strip called Les Maitres Inquisiteurs (The Master Inquisitors) though unfortunately it also doesn't have an English translation. Keep your eyes peeled though, they might eventually make a translation for the comic strips you want.

[NeverlandHunter]

Hi thread! I just wanted to say that even though I don't like playing as dwarves personally, I think the dwarves in Dragon Age make up some of the best Dragon Age characters!

Varric

Oghren

Sigrun

Sandal

Scout Harding

Dagna

Bodahn even gets a mention for being an awesome dad!

 

I can't wait to see what new dwarf characters they bring to the table, and I hope we see Sandal and Bodahn in DA4!

(And Scout Harding for love interest DA4!)

[Bhryaen]

Ooh, she's a Sabriel fan, neat! What's her tumblr? Is it the same as her name here? I could message her on there. It's even possible I already follow her, the Sabriel fandom is pretty small and we generally all follow each other on there (but I follow literally about 700 blogs so I'd have to check through my list to see if I do).

 

That's video is... really interesting. I haven't played the Decent DLC so I'm only going off what she said in the video. But if it's true it makes a lot of sense. It feels a lot like Cthulhu, actually. Dead gods who aren't quite dead, whose followers are mindless drones under their will, shaping the world in their sleeping and waiting for the day when their eons-long machinations herald their awakening. I mean the Blight is freaking creepy and the whole thing with Solas and the Evanuris is going to be a shitstorm for the ages, but if this is also part of it? Man, Thedas is way darker than we thought, and that's saying something.

 

I think she's missing someone though (at least in the video, I didn't read her extended theory version on her blog). Yes, Flemeth puts Hawke on the road to Kirkwall and helps start things there, but it's VARRIC that takes Hawke to the Deep roads. It's Varric and Bartrand who hear about the lost Thaig and mount the expedition to get it. And it's Varric who continues research on the red lyrium even after everything that happens because of the idol. And Varric has said he sometimes hears the Song, but he manages somehow to resist. If the theory is true, Varric is as much a big player in this scheme as the others, possibly more so because unlike Sandal and Flemeth, Varic directly impacts events with his own actions, rather than "nudging" them as Flemth does or as Sandal predicts. Which would probably p*ss off Varric to no end if he knew he was being used as a pawn for more lyrium bullshit.

 

So if it's true, I really hope it doesn't mean that when/if the Titan awakes all the dwarves will turn basically into zombies. It would be a really shitty treatment to a race that's often given the short straw in the games. It would be super cool, however, if it were true and dwarves were the ones that led the fight against the Song and became front & center in saving Thedas from that particular threat. Guess we have to wait and see.

I found ladylionhart's Tumblr by just Googling "ladylionhart." This and this are images from her Tumblr account, not her profile, but maybe you can link to her profile from there? Her Deviant Art account is here. Very annoying I can't access my old Deviant acc- wait, I could just make a new account with a new email address. I'll try again, but a note from Tumblr wouldn't hurt.

 

I agree with all you've said about Ashe's vid. I'm still floored by the fairly convincing tying together of a number of the DA story elements that way- particularly the Sandal quote which I don't recall from my DA2 playthrough- but my biggest reservation has been exactly what you're referring to: why would the Titan's "hive-mind" be mind-control or groupthink? Sandal doesn't seem upset about it. The picture that Dagna paints is more of a creature that is simply aware of all the thoughts of the dwarves rather than controlling them- or that becomes the "Focus" of a collective consciousness rather than the cultivator of a single consciousness. That could have its own dilemmas- like getting awkward when going to the bathroom or doing the ya know with each other, and espionage would be a lot less convenient- but it doesn't necessarily sound oppressive. After all, there is already a race that practices mind-control and drone-creation without the use of telepathy: the qunari. We don't need dwarves having it even worse just because the Titan wakes up fully.

 

But I can certainly see that being one of the motivations of Flemmy and the elves, even a well-meaning notion of "saving" the dwarves from their collective consciousness despite them not asking for any such thing, wanting them to be "free" to not know the minds of each other any more... or the minds of non-dwarves, which would explain elven hostility better. I sooo want to weigh into the great discussion on that thread, but I haven't finished Trespasser either, much less the main story (I'm presently at just after Morrigan shows me the eluvian), so I'd be arguing with an arm behind my back. I've been spending way more time on the BW forum these days than in-game. One day I'm just going to disappear to delve into it. How far am I from the conclusion? It can't be far if I'm essentially routing Cory's forces at the elven ruins.

 

Can you imagine a scene like at the end of the Fade where some HUGENORMOUS creature is walking about? They managed to more or less well pull it off already with their current game engine with a hideous-looking Fade monster. Animating a Titan in a better engine or with a better handle on the current one could be just plain awesome. Come to think of it, that titanic Fade creature might be a corrupted Titan... nawwwww. See? It's easy to speculate. haha Actually it would be hard to make the Titan from Descent move without massive destruction of the city of dwarves inside it and the surrounding surface area.

 

Btw- love your new forum avatar.

[Bhryaen]

Well, I somehow managed to reestablish my previous Deviant Art account with a new account name (Bhryaen)... somehow... (I'd never posted art, just wanted an account there for some reason, possibly just for access.) I sent ladylionhart this message:

 

"Regarding your 'Dwarf Support Thread' on the Bioware Forum"

 

Heya!

I'm a dwarfy fan who has been posting regularly on the thread you made. Yep- it's still going strong after all this time. We were discussing the thread's title the other day and were considering changing it to "The Dwarven Assembly," but we noticed you hadn't been to the BW Forum for months. So I got Scout Harding to find you here. ;-) Hopefully you'll get this note!

There's a note for you on the BW Forum from Gilsa who has been on your thread a lot longer than I have. Check it out! :-)

 

Message in a bottle... We'll see! I see in the "Recent Activity" of her profile that she was active 2 days ago.

[Merela]

Gina agreed to work on another commission for me.    But since it's post-Trepasser, I'm putting it under the spoiler tag for now.

 

Spoiler

 

Source: http://floatslikebri...sh-her-favorite

[Gilsa]

I love, love, love that piece and how the artist really hones in on the emotions of the moment. Not to pry or anything, but I'm curious how many hours went into your commission pieces. This is a great background -- your idea or hers?

[Merela]

I love, love, love that piece and how the artist really hones in on the emotions of the moment. Not to pry or anything, but I'm curious how many hours went into your commission pieces. This is a great background -- your idea or hers?

 

This piece was made in five hours, while the "Hushed Whispers kiss" was made in four. The idea for the background came from me: I requested for the same background seen during the "Cass rebuilds the Seeker" panel during the Trespasser ending. The coloring is all Gina's though.

[Bhryaen]

Got in my head yesterday that I didn't want to complete the game with an elf, so I decided to create a new dwarven archer. Then I did and discovered that... no friggen way am I going without the Golden Nug! Plus I'm probably pretty close to the end anyway with the elf. I can still have a dwarf be the first to complete the entire game- i.e., Trespasser.

 

Thus cameth Jargen. He unintentionally turned out like a blond, dwarven Robin Hood- very much digging him. The British voice works well on him too, likely for that reason. He's a lot more photogenic than I'd anticipated, even in the early sequences which weren't great for any of my characters. I added light blue face tattoos (cuz I wonder what material is light blue and gets infused into...), but I'm not sure they work so well. Only the blue eyes make them seem less odd-colored or noticeable. I'll see if I want to Black Emporium them off at some point.

 

He's similar to my DAO Aeducan, Jagan, whose name I sorta meddled with- blondish, bearded. I like this blondish hair color because it remains darker for the stubble and eyebrows. I'm surprised the beard worked as well as it did given the blotchy interfacing with the skin- and I had to wrangle with sliders to keep the moustache and beard from falling behind the skin plane... but I like 'im. Didn't think I could pull off a convincing dwarven archer.

 

 

 

And more if you're inclined:

 

Spoiler

Varric: "So you're an archer, eh?"

Jargen: "Is that going to be a problem?"

Varric: "Not unless you enter the Haven Bullseye Competition against me..."

 

 

 

 

 

Jargen: "And we're supposed to close that thing?"

Cassandra: "We will do our best."

Solas: "Have faith in your Anch- I mean, in your new connection to the Fade, Child of the Stone."

Jargen: "Who are you calling 'child?'"

Varric: "Don't mind him. He calls me that all the time. So long as I get to keep calling him Chuckles."

 

 

[Bhryaen]

@merela

That portrait is excellent and so fitting for the characters: Cassie would so be reading a novel like that. You can really see the connection between them.

[Gilsa]

@Bhryaen -- Ah, I did not realize you had not beaten the main game yet on your characters. Explains a lot in retrospect. I wouldn't have shared the comments from Dorian if I had known. I thought you were initially an elf player looking for some extra information on dwarves. (We get our share of people who want some info without actually playing as a dwarf.)

[Bhryaen]

@Bhryaen -- Ah, I did not realize you had not beaten the main game yet on your characters. Explains a lot in retrospect. I wouldn't have shared the comments from Dorian if I had known. I thought you were initially an elf player looking for some extra information on dwarves. (We get our share of people who want some info without actually playing as a dwarf.)

I've been using spoilers selectively- mostly only regarding the main plot or lore... Like I know Flemeth shows up soon, but I don't know how it goes yet. And I know that the Inky loses- ya know- in Trespasser, but not exactly how. But the experience with Dorian as a dwarf- or any other dwarf-exclusive encounters, like in Descent- I want to be new. Don't worry, I know how to not read as well. haha

 

I was only an overwhelmingly elf and halfling player until DAO, though looking at my past DAO characters, of the 5.5 that went the whole way I had 3 elves and "only" 2.5 dwarves (and a bunch of others that didn't get past Lothering). Only my dwarf Kruklya did the DLCs though, and I spent the vast amount of my DAO time on her. It was hard to play through another Brosca when she was so dear to me. No idea how you managed 12 dwarves!