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[Tishina]

Yeah, Sea Dwarves would rule!

 

And now I think about it, did Bioware double-bluff us lore nerds?

 

We got the threatening letter in Varric's war table mission, but then found out it wasn't anything to do with Worthy. So us lore nerds assumed it was meant for the Inquisition arriving at Skyhold, because it was a holy place to the Ancient Elves, had been attacked by elves before and Solas apparently formed the Veil there in the fortress that he owned...

 

Now I'm wondering if that was to throw us off that it really was meant for Varric after all.

 

Perhaps using them as a plot device in his novel, one that was popular enough to be read all over the place and thus bring them to more attention, irritated them enough to personally break their secrecy to tell him directly that they are not happy campers?

There is also something, somewhere, about a ship arriving and buying up a large amount of lyrium or lyrium ore, with foreign dwarves on board and apparently in command.

[Merela]

Between Fire Emblem and Dragon's Dogma, I've also decided to resume my Hard DA:I playthrough (to whoever just thought I have too much time on my hands, I totally agree). I decided to tweak Thogrim a bit by giving him a few scars and making his hair less bluish black. I'm quite happy with the result!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

The fire rune in the Blackwall meetup pic is a nice touch. ^_^'

[Merela]

The fire rune in the Blackwall meetup pic is a nice touch. ^_^'

 

I may have made a mistake by giving Solas the fire mine spell - he was quick to turn into a godammit pyromaniac. "Better to fade out than burn away" my foot.

[Pensieve]

That's an awesome dwarf With the best beard.

[Sifr]

I may have made a mistake by giving Solas the fire mine spell - he was quick to turn into a godammit pyromaniac. "Better to fade out than burn away" my foot.

 

Solas gets worse when he gets the Rift Mage spec, now every time he uses Fire spells, Stone Fist or Firestorm, he breaks into "Rock of Ages"...

 

[Merela]

That's an awesome dwarf With the best beard.

 

Ah, thanks! I'm really happy with how Thogrim looks. I think he actually ended sharing somewhat of a likeness with Fjal', which wasn't planned at all.

 

 

Solas gets worse when he gets the Rift Mage spec, now every time he uses Fire spells, Stone Fist or Firestorm, he breaks into "Rock of Ages"...

 

 

I admit, I don't use Solas much post-Skyhold, except for his personal quest. So he never realy gets the chance to really show off with all his elemental spells. But for someone who claimed that he prefered more subtle spells to fireballs, he's a bit of a liar. Even more since he got the fire wall spell. He just...has that urge to spam fire walls everywhere. Quite usefull, but boy am I glad not to have desactivated the friendly fire option.

 

And now, have a half-dwarf baby trying to take his first step under his mother's vigilante eyes:

 

 

 

Done by the talented and always adorable askbroodyelf. I'm having so much feelings about Cass and Nino, but I'll try to focus a bit more on him and Fjal' next time. I just need to do research on medieval arm prothesises. *grumble grumble*

[Sifr]

I really hope they bring half-dwarves into the next game and give them a unique looking model, would be interesting to see what they look like (since Kieran really doesn't count). Has it been established in the lore whether they can do magic or not?

[Tishina]

I really hope they bring half-dwarves into the next game and give them a unique looking model, would be interesting to see what they look like (since Kieran really doesn't count). Has it been established in the lore whether they can do magic or not?

Not really. I assumed they'd go with the obvious - someone shorter and broader than a human, lots of hair, but taller and less stocky than a dwarf. How many lore references do we have to dwarf/human crosses? I know there's supposed to be something that had people speculating about Sandal as half dwarf/half elf, but it now appears more like he has more of a Titan related origin.

[Merela]

Not really. I assumed they'd go with the obvious - someone shorter and broader than a human, lots of hair, but taller and less stocky than a dwarf. How many lore references do we have to dwarf/human crosses? I know there's supposed to be something that had people speculating about Sandal as half dwarf/half elf, but it now appears more like he has more of a Titan related origin.

 

Hmm, we have Mr. Gaider's words on the matter, and apparently there is something about a dwarven noblewoman running away with an elven man back in Origins. And, well, the Carta thugs speaking about Sandals in the Legacy DLC. Not much, in the end.   

[Arktos05]

I wish DA did more with dwarves. I loved the Dwarf Noble origin. You show up at Ostagar already a veteran of fighting Darkspawn, and you can treat everyone like a bunch of noobs. I just had visions of Lady Aeducan rolling her eyes at Cailin behind his back. lol.

[Tishina]

I wish DA did more with dwarves. I loved the Dwarf Noble origin. You show up at Ostagar already a veteran of fighting Darkspawn, and you can treat everyone like a bunch of noobs. I just had visions of Lady Aeducan rolling her eyes at Cailin behind his back. lol.

Pretty much what both my DN and DC did.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

Hmm, we have Mr. Gaider's words on the matter, and apparently there is something about a dwarven noblewoman running away with an elven man back in Origins. And, well, the Carta thugs speaking about Sandals in the Legacy DLC. Not much, in the end. 

Also have the whole tale of Luthias Dwarfson, but he only ends up in love with a dwarf, I think, not fathering a child by her.

[Merela]

Also have the whole tale of Luthias Dwarfson, but he only ends up in love with a dwarf, I think, not fathering a child by her.

 

Oh! Yes! Also thank you for reminding me: since Thog' is trapped in the Hinterlands for now, I've been searching for the differents stanzas of the Saga of Tyrrda Bright-Axe. The three last stanzas really caught my eyes and I really wanted to discuss them here, but them I forgot. Anyway:

 

Sixth stanza:

Tyrdda Bright-Axe, proud her tribe, free from fallow fat below,
Built in battle, fed on fighting, strong from struggle did they grow.
Deep in caves, the stone-men tribe, Hendir's warriors, stout and strong,
Met the tribe with axes ready, armor gleaming, sword-blades long.
Spoke with Tyrdda did her lover, gentle whispers soft she made,
Dwarven hearts were sundered, simple, still with honor. Thus she bade:
"Let the tribe the dwarf-men know,
In their caves, where they belong,
Not with battle but with trade,
Hendir's dwarves, give peace unbreaking."


Seventh stanza:

Tyrdda Bright-Axe, Dwarf-Friend Chieftain, with her leaf-eared lover lay,
Woke she did to love-sweat morning, lover gone in light of day.
Dream-words whispered, spoken soft, still the silence crushed and crashing,
Dead her tribe, unless a child could keep her line in warrior fashion.
Aval'var, so named the lover, called "our journey, yours and mine,"
One day child of Tyrdda's blood, Morrighan'nan, in strength must shine.
Lover's whispers to obey,
Hendir, dwarf-prince, friend in passion,
Babe produced to serve the line,
The Avvar tribe, her name, our taking.


Eighth stanza:

Tyrdda Bright-Axe, Avvar Chieftain, strong her tribe with dwarven trade,
Battles brought to men and demons, won with wisdom, fire, and blade.
Then did Tyrdda look to Hendir, dwarf-prince friend, children-giver,
Took her freedom, Hendir glad, wished her what he could not give her.
Chose her child to stand as chieftain, after all last wrongs were righted,
Gifted goods of worldly want, left her tribe no more benighted.
Skyward, one last trek she made,
To her lover, dream-delivered,
Raven-feathered, reunited,
Hearts both whole, now neither aching.

 

So, if I understand the whole thing properly, Tyrrda and Hendir (so an Avvar woman and a dwarf) did have a half-dwarf daughter, named Morrighan'nan who became the leader of the Avvar tribe after her mother left(died?) to be with her spirit lover once again. I don't think it's overreaching to think that it is the same Morrighan'nan who seduced Luthias Dwarfson and conceived a son with him, son who was slew by his father 15 years later, before both parents died by each other's hand in battle despite Scaea, Luthias' former dwarven lover, giving him a dwarven suit of chain.

 

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Activates spoilsport mode:- Cassandra is either 37 or 38 years old at the start of Inquisition. This would mean that by the end of Inquisition and Trespasser, she would be 40.

 

Couple that with low dwarven fertility rate, Cassandra and your male Dwarf would require a Dark Ritual-esque fertility spell to get a kid. Just saying.

[Tishina]

Activates spoilsport mode:- Cassandra is either 37 or 38 years old at the start of Inquisition. This would mean that by the end of Inquisition and Trespasser, she would be 40.

 

Couple that with low dwarven fertility rate, Cassandra and your male Dwarf would require a Dark Ritual-esque fertility spell to get a kid. Just saying.

Not necessarily. Fertility may be lower at 40ish, but it isn't that low (despite how we tend to think of these things, women used to have children relatively commonly in their early 40s; it's just much riskier.) And there are less drastic forms of fertility magic (I think there's a reference to something from Rivaini in DA2.)

[Merela]

Activates spoilsport mode:- Cassandra is either 37 or 38 years old at the start of Inquisition. This would mean that by the end of Inquisition and Trespasser, she would be 40.

 

Couple that with low dwarven fertility rate, Cassandra and your male Dwarf would require a Dark Ritual-esque fertility spell to get a kid. Just saying.

 

And? You're not teaching me anything new here. I'm both aware of Cassandra's age and of the dwarven fertility rate. But as Tish mentioned, women in their late 30s/early 40s can still have children (Anne of Austria gave birth to Louis XIV when she was 37 and to Philippe de France, Louis' younger brother, when she was 39). Considering that Fjal' is 27-28 by the time of Trespasser and that he comes from a family with remarkable fertility (he has, like, five older brothers and sister), there is nothing impossible here. Hard, sure, and there is a reason why he and Cassandra calls Anthony "their little miracle" and a "gift from the Maker" (no mention Vivienne actually offered Cass to help her with a potion, because "sometimes my dear, nature needs a little help". It spooked poor Cass, and nature gave Divine Victoria the finger since Nino was conceived right at the beginning of Trespasser - it's still unknown if the orlesian opera helped or not).

 

And, you know, if some people can claim loud and clear that their Warden and Alistair had children without any magical help despite both of them being tainted, I don't see why I can't headcanon that Fjalar and Cassandra have a son. I'm not breaking any established rule here.

[Andraste_Reborn]

We don't actually know if surface dwarves have the same fertility issues that deep dwarves have, anyway. It could be the proximity to all that lyrium and/or the darkspawn that causes it.

[Tishina]

We don't actually know if surface dwarves have the same fertility issues that deep dwarves have, anyway. It could be the proximity to all that lyrium and/or the darkspawn that causes it.

Exactly. The implication has been that their exposure to the taint is a major cause. Presumably, those whose families have been on the surface for a while have a more recovered fertility rate...

[Merela]

Exactly. The implication has been that their exposure to the taint is a major cause. Presumably, those whose families have been on the surface for a while have a more recovered fertility rate...

There miiiight be a reason for why Varric told Solas that surface dwarven culture is actually thriving.

[EggplantRed]

There miiiight be a reason for why Varric told Solas that surface dwarven culture is actually thriving.

 thriving indeed!

 

Fertile surface dwarves are also my headcanon.

Minka and Trilen Cadash had Alcina, her sister Ferinda and two brothers Doudrin and Renrik, in between all that ruling a powerful criminal family.

 

And hello dwarf fans! *popping back into lurkdom  *

[Tishina]

 thriving indeed!

 

Fertile surface dwarves are also my headcanon.

Minka and Trilen Cadash had Alcina, her sister Ferinda and two brothers Doudrin and Renrik, in between all that ruling a powerful criminal family.

 

And hello dwarf fans! *popping back into lurkdom  *

Hey! Haven't seen you in quite a while, it's great to see you! Hope life is treating you kindly...

[EggplantRed]

Hey! Haven't seen you in quite a while, it's great to see you! Hope life is treating you kindly...

 

Hey hey!

 

Work's been super hectic lately so all I've had time to really do is lurk instead of actively participate 

But life is treating me alright otherwise. I hope you're doing well too!

[Tishina]

Hey hey!

 

Work's been super hectic lately so all I've had time to really do is lurk instead of actively participate 

But life is treating me alright otherwise. I hope you're doing well too!

That's good! Hectic work may be tiring, but it's usually a good sign, at least. I'm good here, finally coming out the other side of a couple of months of very long days and trying to get back into the swing of writing. I've got a few months to go on the current story, but a friend helped me brainstorm a new dwarven one that jumps into backstory so I avoid being tied to Inquisition events so I can have more fun with it.

[EggplantRed]

That's good! Hectic work may be tiring, but it's usually a good sign, at least. I'm good here, finally coming out the other side of a couple of months of very long days and trying to get back into the swing of writing. I've got a few months to go on the current story, but a friend helped me brainstorm a new dwarven one that jumps into backstory so I avoid being tied to Inquisition events so I can have more fun with it.

 

Quite excited for a dwarven backstory now!

 

Still waiting on that matriarchal Cadash story too...