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[Jazzpha]

So recently, I had the idea to play my first character as kind of an analogue to Bane from Nolan's Batman films: a driven, uncompromising zealot who seeks to close the Breach at all costs and tolerates no dissent. I figured I'd play a warrior, both because this Inquisitor enjoys bashing the life out of things, and because I went Mage all the time in DAO.

 

But then I started worrying about the necessity of a rogue in the party to do certain things. Varric, Cole and Sera all seem like they'd have issues with that sort of Inquisitor, which potentially leaves me with no rogue at all. Unless one of them is like Dog and never picks up and leaves, which I doubt though.

 

If any of you are foreseeing a similar kind of bind, how are you planning on dealing with it?

[Dabrikishaw]

I never seriously use 2 rogues in my party unless it was in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening and I was running triple Song of Courage for my archer Warden-Commander. Since I planed my first character to be a Rogue(first Warden was a Warrior and first Hawke was a Mage), all the Rogue party members are getting benched for that playthrough.

[Icy Magebane]

I have some concerns as well.  The rogues in DA:I seem to be overly focused on the protection and welfare of the weak and poor, which will clash with my first Inquisitor's philosophy.  It's unfortunate that these are our only options, but we'll just have to make do I guess.  Since I am not willing to metagame or attempt to manipulate the approval system on my first playthrough (I might do this later if it's linked to something as important as Isabela returning with the Tome), I am prepared to lose at least a couple of them before I'm halfway through the game.  At that point I will decide whether or not lockpicking is a necessary skill.  If the loot and exp from lockpicking seem too useful to permanently lose access to, the Inquisitor will make the in-game decision to leave the final rogue behind at Skyhold for all remaining missions.  It's smarter to backtrack through levels rather than risk losing their assistance if we simply cannot agree on the Inquisition's primary objective.

[New Kid]

It sounds like the type of inquisitor you hope to play as wouldn't care what concerns his companions have, or am I missing the point?

[Razored1313]

I'm in a similar bind, but my inquisitor is going to be more friendly (mostly aggressive, but not towards most of his companions) so maybe I can find a balance. However my main focus on a rogue will probably be cole, I could see my inquisitor acting as a big brother type to him as being a vashoth qunari made him a pariah among humans and his own kind like cole, sort of a birds of a feather effect. So my plan is to actively try and befriend cole and varric (no hope with sera since my inquisitors motto is the ends justify the means) and hope for the best.

[Master Warder Z_]

It's called behead the traitorous whelps.

 

Seriously, The Inquisitions Goal is saving the bloody world.

 

Not saving every random village, not deposing corrupt nobility, and not saving every person we come across.

 

If the Demon, Knife Ear and Dwarf cannot get that through their skulls, perhaps my blade can assist them with it.

[TheKomandorShepard]

It's called behead the traitorous whelps.

 

Seriously, The Inquisitions Goal is saving the bloody world.

 

Not saving every random village, not deposing corrupt nobility, and not saving every person we come across.

 

If the Demon, Knife Ear and Dwarf cannot get that through their skulls, perhaps my blade can assist them with it.

 

Well but then you will lose guys that can open chests and doors and well door to the torture chamber were locked so it may be rather important.Of course unless you play as rogue then it won't be a problem

[Steelcan]

My attitude towards my team will be the same as my attitude towards the multitude of issues I am sure to face, bend the knee

[ShadowLordXII]

It's called behead the traitorous whelps.

 

Seriously, The Inquisitions Goal is saving the bloody world.

 

Not saving every random village, not deposing corrupt nobility, and not saving every person we come across.

 

If the Demon, Knife Ear and Dwarf cannot get that through their skulls, perhaps my blade can assist them with it.

 

A tank of sharks would be more theatrical.

[Medhia_Nox]

Well, here's the thing... being cold when you've exhausted your options, is totally different than just choosing: "Torch the town." because it's convenient.  

 

There is one moment with Sten where you can explain to him why you're doing what you're doing (it's about saving Redcliff) and it changes him from a - to a +.  I truly hope that my companions confront me about my decisions and, provided I give them satisfactory answers, that it helps mitigate their disapproval or even changes it to approval.  

 

Given that Varric was, presumably, nearby the explosion at the beginning... and he sees what is "really going on" I simply don't think he'll abandon you.  

 

Cole is too ignorant to even know what you're doing.  He seems like he's going to be totally and completely malleable... "But Cole, this IS helping!" 

 

Sera - I dunno.

[Master Warder Z_]

A tank of sharks would be more theatrical.

 

Mmm

 

You may be right.

 

Spoiler

[tmp7704]

If any of you are foreseeing a similar kind of bind, how are you planning on dealing with it?

I'm planning not to get exasperated over possible chest or door being left locked at the end of the day. Neither is likely to have any serious impact on the ability to achieve the final goal of the inquisition.

[Karach_Blade]

My attitude towards my team will be the same as my attitude towards the multitude of issues I am sure to face, bend the knee

 

[Stannis Baratheon intensifies]

 

[EmperorSahlertz]

Okay.. I know this is OT, but I have to know this... Have ANY of the Stannis fanboys even read the books? Or where they just easily bought with some cheap theatricals?

[Spicen]

You mean i cant creep like a deepstalker and swoop down upon ppl? How sad.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

If Varric is a kissass like DA2 then he'll align with you even if you nuke Thedas from the sky.

 

 

However, I get the feeling he'll be a bit more vocal this time against choices he doesn't agree with.

[Master Warder Z_]

Okay.. I know this is OT, but I have to know this... Have ANY of the Stannis fanboys even read the books? Or where they just easily bought with some cheap theatricals?

 

Did you seriously just accuse Stannis Fanboys such as myself of not reading the books?

 

...I don't know about the others but i was reading the books long before the show ever came around, though admittedly that did rekindle a bit of interest in the series.

[TK514]

I've never found anything in a locked chest I couldn't live without, or a trap I couldn't survive.  I don't expect they will have added much more functionality to rogues beyond that, so I don't expect to actually NEED one to do anything.

 

Having said that, with health regen gone, I expect traps to be a little more irritating this time around, so I may want a rogue.  If that's the case, and they aren't 'on board' with my methods, then we'll just agree to disagree until they leave, and I'll just have to carry a lot of health potions.

[Wolfen09]

meh, i just dont like losing options for party combos later in game.  But im probably gonna play rogue first anyway, as its my favorite class.  But if my hunch is right, we arent gonna have a nailed down team for 90% of the game this time, i think we are gonna have to interchange members quite a bit to get everything from this game, which is m goal in the first place

[-TC1989-]

To be quite honest, I didn't feel the whole "kissass" vibe from Varric all that much in DA2. Quite a few times I was sort of watching what I was saying so that I didn't get a negative reaction from him. There were a number of times that I received a rivalry swing from him from being more aggressive towards people. Now in general, he would go along with it, but I didn't sense he was just happily nodding his head with it.

 

 

But to respond to the topic, I kind of approach every class the same way. I have my way of doing things, and if someone were to say openly disagree with me, then I appreciate their honesty, but ultimately my choice is what I feel comfortable with. I wouldn't say I'm as bad as to go in fist swinging like a nutcase, but I do have a tendency to get my point across... aggressively. In a normal situation, such as asking questions about a quest I'm on, I ask in a civil manner. If that fails I go with a more sarcastic tone, if not aggressive outright (depending on the nature of the quest).... if that doesn't work, well then it gets more physical.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

So recently, I had the idea to play my first character as kind of an analogue to Bane from Nolan's Batman films: a driven, uncompromising zealot who seeks to close the Breach at all costs and tolerates no dissent. I figured I'd play a warrior, both because this Inquisitor enjoys bashing the life out of things, and because I went Mage all the time in DAO.

 

But then I started worrying about the necessity of a rogue in the party to do certain things. Varric, Cole and Sera all seem like they'd have issues with that sort of Inquisitor, which potentially leaves me with no rogue at all. Unless one of them is like Dog and never picks up and leaves, which I doubt though.

 

If any of you are foreseeing a similar kind of bind, how are you planning on dealing with it?

 

Spoiler

 

I don't think Varric will leave you. He will label you an ass and dislike you but he will not leave you. In DA 2 if you rivalled Varric, he nicknames you killer and runs that ogre story but yeah I think you will have Varric around. 

[MCG]

Why does everybody want to play as an ignorant, overly aggressive ass-hat instead of just be good and help the people of Thedas lol.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Why does everybody want to play as an ignorant, overly aggressive ass-hat instead of just be good and help the people of Thedas lol.

Well i prefer be "ass-hat" that makes thing done like save keep and soldiers instead useless peasants.

[MCG]

We've not been faced with that decision yet so I don't know what I'd do, however I did choose Amaranthine over Vigil's Keep thus lost Velanna, Sigrun and Oghren (who apparently died in-game, but his conclusion said otherwise).