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Like play an elf but with different personality like Hawke had ? Noble , sarcastic and angry ? 
Hum , I only play the same even if it seem utterly boring . And not all games offer much flexibilities . So it is kinda hard . Most of the replyabilitie is doing the romance with different species mostly . Though sometimes we can hit a wall due to either actor voices we don't like or something else . Like I didn't and couldn't play MaleShep even though I wanted to try romancing Jack and Miranda due to the voice actor voice . So personal taste is what can limit oneself but also sometimes the dialogue wheel doesn't offer much variante . Either you are a goodie , seem neutral or a jerk . 
If you have other way to replay say a human many times in different ways , I ask to share how you do it please ? :)


Different perspectives. So take noble human. He can be someone who is ambitious and wants to have the estates. As a family aligned with the Templars, you side with them on most issues. Power is what you see in the Inquisition, but you arent bad, just like to treat your allies well. As a human noble who believes in power, elves are hard for you to understand, and the Dalish are exactly like you were always told they were, obviously. Why would you doubt that? Andrastian because being on the good side of the church is important for any aspiring noble. Although it is mostly lip service. Favours spying and Diplomacy as they are your strong suit. Aggression is for Brutes. Supports Celine. warrior. Quite direct when speaking to others but fair minded when making choices.

Another human noble. He has no intrest in politics or getting anywhere than somewhere fun. With all the money in the world you lived a high life and a free one. You are somewhat a rebel in the family so you might support the mages but you are certainly not passionate about it, and will probably buckle when it gets tough. And that describes you very well. Someone who has trouble putting your all in to something. An intresting combo is to all one side on something when it is easy, but when it gets hard, change opinions. The Inquisition is your chance to shine. You are not Andrastian as you never were very fond of the half faith of your family, and you are rebellious by nature so any authority figure might make you chafe. Only be direct with them or if someone is putting you down.
Has a good heart and becomes great once he commits by the climax of the game(but not before) Favours Diplomacy and Aggresion, favors Gaspard, rogue. In dialogue is sometimes aggressive but mostly sarcastic.

And finally. As someone taken from their family and in the circle, you have very little of your life to base on. You are usually introverted. Rarely taking direct options in dialogue, but has very definite opinions on how the world should be. For you, The Inquisition is freedom. For the first time you can use magic with impunity with a whole group to back you. Of course you see very little to compromise about Mage freedom. (The difference between Anders is that you pick diplomatic options when talking to others. Even if your choices lean all one way) also elves were always more equals to you than your "brothers" and you are fighting for them as well. Everyone else can take a hike. Let this character have a more tragic life. Favours Aggression and Spying because he learned the hard way talking doesnt do anything. Obviously a mage. Speaks softly but carries a big staff would suit him perfectly. Make him the nicest guy ever, but in decision making he is brutal. One thing you did have in the Circle was your faith, but you believe the Chantry has corrupted the original intent.

If all that doesnt work... Imagine a favorite Noble character and imagine how they would act. Beast from Beauty and the Beast. Aladdin after he was "adopted" Simba from Lion King. Naveen from Princess and the Frog. And tons of other ones but Disney movies are more universal :P
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Different perspectives. So take noble human. He can be someone who is ambitious and wants to have the estates. As a family aligned with the Templars, you side with them on most issues. Power is what you see in the Inquisition, but you arent bad, just like to treat your allies well. As a human noble who believes in power, elves are hard for you to understand, and the Dalish are exactly like you were always told they were, obviously. Why would you doubt that? Andrastian because being on the good side of the church is important for any aspiring noble. Although it is mostly lip service. Favours spying and Diplomacy as they are your strong suit. Aggression is for Brutes. Supports Celine. warrior. Quite direct when speaking to others but fair minded when making choices.

Another human noble. He has no intrest in politics or getting anywhere than somewhere fun. With all the money in the world you lived a high life and a free one. You are somewhat a rebel in the family so you might support the mages but you are certainly not passionate about it, and will probably buckle when it gets tough. And that describes you very well. Someone who has trouble putting your all in to something. An intresting combo is to all one side on something when it is easy, but when it gets hard, change opinions. The Inquisition is your chance to shine. You are not Andrastian as you never were very fond of the half faith of your family, and you are rebellious by nature so any authority figure might make you chafe. Only be direct with them or if someone is putting you down.
Has a good heart and becomes great once he commits by the climax of the game(but not before) Favours Diplomacy and Aggresion, favors Gaspard, rogue. In dialogue is sometimes aggressive but mostly sarcastic.

And finally. As someone taken from their family and in the circle, you have very little of your life to base on. You are usually introverted. Rarely taking direct options in dialogue, but has very definite opinions on how the world should be. For you, The Inquisition is freedom. For the first time you can use magic with impunity with a whole group to back you. Of course you see very little to compromise about Mage freedom. (The difference between Anders is that you pick diplomatic options when talking to others. Even if your choices lean all one way) also elves were always more equals to you than your "brothers" and you are fighting for them as well. Everyone else can take a hike. Let this character have a more tragic life. Favours Aggression and Spying because he learned the hard way talking doesnt do anything. Obviously a mage. Speaks softly but carries a big staff would suit him perfectly. Make him the nicest guy ever, but in decision making he is brutal. One thing you did have in the Circle was your faith, but you believe the Chantry has corrupted the original intent.

If all that doesnt work... Imagine a favorite Noble character and imagine how they would act. Beast from Beauty and the Beast. Aladdin after he was "adopted" Simba from Lion King. Naveen from Princess and the Frog. And tons of other ones but Disney movies are more universal :P

Thank you . But I actually have an idea of what I want . If you read my previous post , I was mostly curious (and always looking for new ideas to swim in to be honest as well) if there was anything new to add to my shelves .

 

Well I'm a female in real life , and I plan on having my F!Qunari go for the Lesbiana smoochie lol but I do plan on doing all the romance eventualy . It be fun! 

It took me a while , but I even did Alistair romance (+ The Wedding Mod for him) and even though he is a man . I did find it surprisingly fun to play . And my Bossy Noble is stuck with him forever now  :lol:


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karushna5 The only problem with this approach is that some people have no interest in playing as a Chantry devote. Others can't stand mages and give two sh*ts about their problems, the same can be said about anyone - dalish, dwarwes, qunari. So what's the point? They just probably drop the game and that's will be it.

 

Like, if someone can't stand  Naveen's type of people,and barely can tolerate Zevran and Isabela, why would he play as one? Many people sympathetic to dalish and their culture, but also so don't care about them in general. And dwarves? They hardly even noteworthy for some.

 

I think it's great that some people can enjoy doing those things, but some just can't, they'll bore themselves to death. 



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I think we probably were not alone. I admit, I didn't kill him, but I wish I could have magically chained him down and made him see how his actions made 'the world a better place for mages' and see him suffer as he realizes the true consequences => more restrains for mages. And it's his fault.

Well I didn't at first . Then I did just to ****** off Sebastian lol what I would have liked more then a renegade interrupt , is to do it Atheytha style and beat him with his own spine  :lol:

 

I'm pro-mage and the war was inevitable . But like F!Shepard say to Harkin: If it were me , I would'nt have shot you *There* ' . 

 

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karushna5 The only problem with this approach is that some people have no interest in playing as a Chantry devote. Others can't stand mages and give two sh*ts about their problems, the same can be said about anyone - dalish, dwarwes, qunari. So what's the point? They just probably drop the game and that's will be it.
 
Like, if someone can't stand  Naveen's type of people,and barely can tolerate Zevran and Isabela, why would he play as one? Many people sympathetic to dalish and their culture, but also so don't care about them in general. And dwarves? They hardly even noteworthy for some.
 
I think it's great that some people can enjoy doing those things, but some just can't, they'll bore themselves to death.


Well that is true and there are other characters to make if that is the case. But making a male human noble for every variety of player may be too much for this thread. What I mean is, it is one variety to play. But that same way to play may have very different ways than up above. I wasnt so much meaning, do this as getting into another mindset is fun, and doesnt need to happen only when picking a different Origin

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Like play an elf but with different personality like Hawke had ? Noble , sarcastic and angry ? 

Hum , I only play the same even if it seem utterly boring . And not all games offer much flexibilities . So it is kinda hard . Most of the replyabilitie is doing the romance with different species mostly . Though sometimes we can hit a wall due to either actor voices we don't like or something else . Like I didn't and couldn't play MaleShep even though I wanted to try romancing Jack and Miranda due to the voice actor voice . So personal taste is what can limit oneself but also sometimes the dialogue wheel doesn't offer much variante . Either you are a goodie , seem neutral or a jerk . 

If you have other way to replay say a human many times in different ways , I ask to share how you do it please ? :)

 

As I mentioned in another post, I am on my 6th playthrough of DA:O and in each game I've played a different perspective and each playthrough has been incredibly individual. Different storylines, different outcomes, etc. 

 

Like I would play a Lothario who's only interested in saving himself. Or a kind-hearted woman who tried to help everyone she came accross (tons of extra content in that one. Completionist playthrough). Someone who didn't care about the fate of the world, and made deals with demons and only followed quests to the exact letter of the law. 

 

All sorts of ways to roleplay. 


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I, for instance, can't roleplay at all. I always end up with the same people and with the same decisions (more or less). Though partly it's just because there weren't so many LIs in previous games, so basically yes, Morrigan and Anders I can stand, everyone else I want to smoulder at some point when I try to romance them. They make me cringle or laugh and that's all about it. I can't deal with someone either extremely slutty or extremely naive. And don't want to harras someone with a past-abuse experience. So I always left with only 1 choice per game. No reasons for a replay.

 

And by the way, I don't see the point in playing ... hours just to know the outcomes of some actions. Like, I already know I can make Alistair a king or Anora a queen, I don't care because I like and care only about the 1 outcome, the one that suits me best. 

 

 

See, I'd rather roleplay and see the outcomes based on what my specific character did. I have no interest in looking up on youtube the scenes that happen when Alistair becoems king. I want to experience it all first hand.

 

Also, I like replaying those hours. It's just plain fun for me. Why waste $50+ if you're only going to play it once? 



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Some games are just not... well, worth a second run. Be it DAO, TES, Dark Souls or anything. I can replay a game many times, but I should really, really like it and what's more important, like it's gameplay. I was able to redo DA2, but Origins is just sooo slow for my taste, I practically dragged myself through it just to beat the game 1 time. And the only reason I did beat it was for the saves to import in DA2.

Why waste 6-10 hours for a 1 minute video? I'd like to know, but I don't have such patience to do it over and over again. 

Also, it didn't cost me 50$ here, tehehe.



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karushna5 The only problem with this approach is that some people have no interest in playing as a Chantry devote. Others can't stand mages and give two sh*ts about their problems, the same can be said about anyone - dalish, dwarwes, qunari. So what's the point? They just probably drop the game and that's will be it.

 

Like, if someone can't stand  Naveen's type of people,and barely can tolerate Zevran and Isabela, why would he play as one? Many people sympathetic to dalish and their culture, but also so don't care about them in general. And dwarves? They hardly even noteworthy for some.

 

I think it's great that some people can enjoy doing those things, but some just can't, they'll bore themselves to death. 

Call me naive or even stupid . But the game give you options right ? 

And here , we have a game with romances . We have names , some background . And we have peoples already making their choices (Me first then again I'm an addict without shame to smoochieeeeeeee and I do not hide it lol) . 

Some like this charachter , some don't . 

Now this gonna sound awfuly preachy and I don't mean it to be , but I'm a frenchie y'know lol I'm gonna say it the best way I can !

Those who make the game have the responsability to wow you and drag you into their story . BUT we have also to make an effort of our own . Someone look she-hulk ? Give it a chance before you judge it as innacceptable . They may surprise you . And if in the end you end up going facepalm? At least you can say you DID try .

I think it's in human nature to criticize at first look . I'm not saying we all criticize . I remember doing it . I saw Aria T'loak , she gave me her famous 'Don't **** with Aria' and I went Grrrrrr . Turn out , reading her background on the Wiki , looking up all the little bits of infos about her past , from comic I didn't read here and there . And next thing you know , I'm cheering for the Queen of Omega . 

 

At least these are my own belief . I understand we as individuals , are differents , think in differents way and like differents things . But I also believe that we outta give it a try . Then by all mean , if it is a fail....this forum will still be here for the rant . 


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Some games are just not... well, worth a second run. Be it DAO, TES, Dark Souls or anything. I can replay a game many times, but I should really, really like it and what's more important, like it's gameplay. I was able to redo DA2, but Origins is just sooo slow for my taste, I practically dragged myself through it just to beat the game.

Why waste 6-10 hours for a 1 minute video? I'd like to know, but I don't have such patience to do it over and over again. 

Also, it didn't cost me 50$ here, tehehe.

 

 

See, I can't stand DA2 and was super annoyed at the money spent, because I'll never play it again.

 

I adore Origins for the multiple story arcs, and different scenes. I don't find it slow in the least; hence why I'm on my 6th playthrough. 

 

I don't like watching videos, personally. I'd rather go through those hours and experience it first hand than watch it played by someone else. 

 

$50 is approximately the price I'll be paying for DA:I, so that was why I listed it that way. 



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I wouldn't say disappointed, just not interested in anyone so far.  But for me, it takes more than two screenshots and a few lines of background information for me to fall hopelessly in love with a fictional character.

 

Also playing a Dwarf Warrior first followed by a Human Mage, there isn't even a valid romance option.


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Yes I am actually. Then again, the romances in the Dragon Age series have never appealed to me like the ones in Mass Effect did. 

 

The only romance I can say I've enjoyed from this series was Alistair, and I can't even romance him as a male. Maybe Dorian will change my mind. 



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AlexiaRevan Now you see... I liked most of the characters. Even those whom I wasn't agree with, like Wynne or whom I found too sluty to romance or too naive to take serious. I liked everyone and cared about everyone, just differently. But just as in real life, romance is something different from simply liking and tolerating. I probably could've tried to do Alistair and Fenris if I dunno I really wanted to see it myself and not on youtube, but the others is such a big NOPE I can't even. I simply have no interest, I don't even want to see it on youtube.

 

And yes, the way Hawke (I have a big problem with him/her, as Hawke's the only one we couldn't really control as he/she has her own 3 presets that set in stone) flirted made me wtf most of the times. So f-king emberassing, oh dear Lord! It's just a thousands facepalms. Tortured sexy look? Really? And things ladyHawke told to Sebastian just made me cringle. Hawke was a freaking creep. If only we had more freedom things could've been much better. 



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Yes I am actually. Then again, the romances in the Dragon Age series have never appealed to me like the ones in Mass Effect did. 

 

The only romance I can say I've enjoyed from this series was Alistair, and I can't even romance him as a male. Maybe Dorian will change my mind. 

Have you tried the Nexus ? They have mod there that can allow you to romance Alistair or Morrigan with the chosen gender that YOU want . 

That's what I did for my female Dalish and was able to get my happy ending with Morrigan  :wub:



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AlexiaRevan Now you see... I liked most of the characters. Even those whom I wasn't agree with, like Wynne or whom I found too sluty to romance or too naive to take serious. I liked everyone and cared about everyone, just differently. But just as in real life, romance is something different from simply liking and tolerating. I probably could've tried to do Alistair and Fenris if I dunno I really wanted to see it myself and not on youtube, but the others is such a big NOPE I can't even. I simply have no interest, I don't even want to see it on youtube.

 

And yes, the way Hawke (I have a big problem with him/her, as Hawke's the only one we couldn't really control as he/she has her own 3 presets that set in stone) flirted made me wtf most of the times. So f-king emberassing, oh dear Lord! It's just a thousands facepalms. Tortured sexy look? Really? And things ladyHawke told to Sebastian just made me cringle. Hawke was a freaking creep. If only we had more freedom things could've been much better. 

You have my sympathie . And I mean it in a sincere honest way and not a sarcastic way . I sympathisize about how you feel , although I do not share your opinion . Because for me , DA2 was fun . (then again...um.....considering I'm a lesbian female who since the Atari games been dudes-oriented , I think I got used to how to say this : See the good even if you are not getting what you want) . 

But I do understand how you feel . My only suggestion , would be rage and rant and get it out of your system . Why? you can't drag that hurt in a game that maybe good and because of how you feel you won't be able to see it . And that will be tragic . 

Because this game seem promising , and since you didn't enjoy and even got traumas from DA2 . Then You more then me , need this game as a healing potion  ^_^

You say Hawke dialogue was horrible , and so were the flirts options . Did you like the outside of the game ? beyond the vromance and smoochie . Did you like the quest ? the chapter how they were made and who you fought at least ? 



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I was able to redo DA2, but Origins is just sooo slow for my taste, I practically dragged myself through it just to beat the game 1 time. And the only reason I did beat it was for the saves to import in DA2.

 

Ahh this sounds like me. I've only played DAO all the way through twice; I've started it countless times but can't get past Lothering at this point. Whereas I have at least 20 playthroughs of DA2.

 

It's just whatever story, characters, and style pushes your buttons, really. Both are quality games.



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AlexiaRevan I liked DA2, that's for sure. I also liked DAO, it's just I started with DA2 and it left its mark, lol. That's why I found it slow in comparison.

And nah, it's not that romances were bad in DA2, or the game itself, Hawke was  :lol: The only thing that excuses him in my eyes that he's a mage (or at least was around them most of the times) and as Varrick once said "saw some weid sh*t", it must've made him a weirdo. Playing as a sarcastic one also helps. I like to think that he's just trying to be funny and fails miserably.

 

I also look forward for DAI, i think it'll be good if nothing else. And LIs for now is quite promising actually (though I already have a favourite), so it's not that bad. 

 

CuriousArtemis DA2's easier somehow, I don't know in what sense. Maybe it's easier to understand what's going on, maybe it's the fact that we basically only have one town we're in or maybe it's the fact that DA2 is more of a "linear" game.

Anyhow, it was easire to get used to it for me too.



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AlexiaRevan I liked DA2, that's for sure. I also liked DAO, it's just I started with DA2 and it left its mark, lol. That's why I found it slow in comparison.

And nah, it's not that romances were bad in DA2, or the game itself, Hawke was  :lol: The only thing that excuses him in my eyes that he's a mage (or at least was around them most of the times) and as Varrick once said "saw some weid sh*t", it must've made him a weirdo. Playing as a sarcastic one also helps. I like to think that he's just trying to be funny and fails miserably.

 

I also look forward for DAI, i think it'll be good if nothing else. And LIs for now is quite promising actually (though I already have a favourite), so it's not that bad. 

 

CuriousArtemis DA2's easier somehow, I don't know in what sense. Maybe it's easier to understand what's going on, maybe it's the fact that we basically only have one town we're in or maybe it's the fact that DA2 is more of a "linear" game.

Anyhow, it was easire to get used to it for me too.

 

Tsk...and here , I was getting my heart bleed for ya  :lol: well thats good to hear . You are safe from my preaching of goodness and what no-sense I can spill out  ;) 

 

 

 

 

I like to think that he's just trying to be funny and fails miserably.

This gonna sound outrageous haha but did you play a Female Hawke ?

 

 

(though I already have a favourite)

And may we know who is your chosen one ?  :P



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I liked both Origins and II about the same heck I've beaten them both over 5 times each, including all the expansions 



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This gonna sound outrageous haha but did you play a Female Hawke ?

Well, I tried but meh. I also never played a whole game to the end as anything but a mage. It's hard to break that habit.  :lol:

Why, what's up with femHawke? I saw her romance lines with several characters, she's just as bad as a male one in that, lol. 

 

And may we know who is your chosen one ?  :P 

I like sassy, self-confident mages since DAO, hehe. But only those who's not pro-circle, these folks I always want to spank with a staff to get some senses into them.



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See, I found it painful to play through DA2 more than once because it felt extremely linear.  Every playthrough felt the same.  The fact that you had to play a human didn't help.  The most fun part of Origins were the origin stories, and the different races helped me create and shape a different personality and motivation for each Warden.

 

I played my dwarves in the most stereotypical way possible, so they were very blunt and never passed up a good fight.  My noble supported a different candidate for the Orzammar throne than my commoner, for good reason.  My commoner wanted to live on and become a hero for the casteless, but my dwarven noble denied Morrigan because he didn't trust magic of any kind.

 

And this is all without even mentioning my human or elves yet.  There were so many ways you could go in Origins, so it has immense replay value for me.  Different strokes, I guess.


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For once I cant decide who to romance. I like all of them.


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People thought making Sera unavailable for straight players was a superior way of making a game than making her (as well as the others) available.

 

Make a character you don't like in order to play the romance you like. It is the better way of playing the game according to people.

 

I'm not bitter. Not bitter. Not bitter.

Bitter at what? Suck it up and make a character for that romance. It truly astounds me that reaction like this even exist.


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Bitter at what? Suck it up and make a character for that romance. It truly astounds me that reaction like this even exist.

 

On the other hand, it no longer astounds me that people on the internet lack sympathy for others.

 

If someone has to "suck it up" in order to play their preferred romance, that doesn't sound like a very enjoyable experience to me. I did try to "suck it up" and make a female character to romance Alistair. I made it to Lothering before turning the game off. Just not enjoyable for me. And forget creating a straight male to romance Morrigan. Way, WAY outside my comfort zone.

 

That said, let me say that I'm proud to be a BioWare fan and a Dragon Age fan; I do think it's great they have gay and lesbian romanceable companions, and it's a companion, too, not just the guy who drives your carriage / shuttle *cough* and can't go on missions with you. So yeah, kudos, DA team  ^_^ Next time just consult with me before you start assigning sexualities  ;) Kidding, kidding :P


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On the other hand, it no longer astounds me that people on the internet lack sympathy for others.

 

If someone has to "suck it up" in order to play their preferred romance, that doesn't sound like a very enjoyable experience to me. I did try to "suck it up" and make a female character to romance Alistair. I made it to Lothering before turning the game off. Just not enjoyable for me. And forget creating a straight male to romance Morrigan. Way, WAY outside my comfort zone.

 

That said, let me say that I'm proud to be a BioWare fan and a Dragon Age fan; I do think it's great they have gay and lesbian romanceable companions, and it's a companion, too, not just the guy who drives your carriage / shuttle *cough* and can't go on missions with you. So yeah, kudos, DA team  ^_^ Next time just consult with me before you start assigning sexualities  ;) Kidding, kidding :P

 

I genuinely wonder if the "suck it up" people are mostly straight guys who haven't really ever been forced to miss out on a romance until Traynor came along (and now Sera).  If so, then I really wonder how they would feel if there was a really awesome storyline, but they could only access it by playing as a gay male in a romance.  Would they be so quick to "suck it up" then or would they come onto the boards and make their thoughts known about it?

 

Also, this post is filled with numerous "suck it up" references while talking about straight guys playing gay characters.  I feel like there's a joke here, but I'm not sure where...... ;)

 

ETA:  NOTE:  If you are a straight guy who doesn't mind playing gay characters and/or haven't told someone else to "suck it up" with regard to romance in these games, then I'm not talking about you.  And thank you for being kind of awesome!


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