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Is anyone else disappointed with the LI's revealed thus far?


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#176
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There's not a great deal in it, but the DAI lineup looks marginally to be the most satisfying group of characters yet.

 

Whilst the OP has politely given their views, to select out potential LI's in an RPG for rather limiting reasons

and then to be disappointed with the result is somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

My first five favourite party play thoughs with LIs are planned and I am very much not disappointed by that prospect.

 

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Bioware stop pandering to the gays.  <_<

 

A large business like Bioware/EA would only "pander" to a certain demographic if that effort would result in a corresponding reward of income - which, considering the percentage of the queer demographic, does not seem logical - so I would assume they are "pandering" because they think promoting inclusivity through media is an important and responsible thing to do.



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A large business like Bioware/EA would only "pander" to a certain demographic if that effort would result in a corresponding reward of income - which, considering the percentage of the queer demographic, does not seem logical - so I would assume they are "pandering" because they think promoting inclusivity through media is an important and responsible thing to do.

I was being ironic.



#179
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I was being ironic.

 

Poe's Law strikes again.

https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Poe's_law

 

I saw the irony but only on the fourth reading.


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My biggest disappointment is that the characters aren't all bi/"playersexual" anymore. I don't care if that wasn't believable or whatever. It's the most fun and convenient route for pretty much everyone. And games shouldn't mirror real life in every single aspect. Imagine what kind of boring game that'd be? A person with pointy ears casting fire from their bare hands at a flying dragon? Eh, nothing wrong. Eight (or more, or less) people that can be into both genders? OH NOES DIS MAKES NO SENSE, Bioware stop pandering to the gays.  <_<

As much as I liked the idea in DA2 and player-sexual characters, with all due respect. It is not believable, no sir.

Everything should be in a place. We have mages and we have demons because what the hell it's a world where magic is real. We have more or less openly gay characters because this world ruled by other customs, no one cares who you sleep with. It has an in-game explanation, it has logic.

But to make everyone around the player bi? Yes, it's a fanservice. It's bad enough as it it - that we basically don't even need to try to make our LIs like us, we just can press a heart button or drawn them in gifts and call it a day.



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Good for you. May you wallow in ur hatred for the chantry.

I don't hate the chantry. My Warden was Andrastian. Snarky Hawke is a little bitter by default.

 

I just want my Inquisitor to be riddled with doubts on the inside.



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I was being ironic.

Poe's Law strikes again.

https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Poe's_law

 

I saw the irony but only on the fourth reading.

 

I suffered the same fate. Apologies then. Carry on.


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I was being ironic.


OMG phew! :lol:
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Speaking on visual appearance alone, I see NO appealing love interests whatsoever for straight males.  I also find it odd that Varric isn't romanceable for females, but I guess that's irrelevant for my character.

 

Cassandra's got short hair, don't like Vivienne or Josephine-- but you know what's disturbing?  I haven't seen any characters in the trailers who have any long hair (worn down).  Same old issue with the character creator, I take it.



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Same old issue with the character creator, I take it.

It's some performance issues. Basically, long hair's not worth it so devs decided to keep it short.



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Speaking on visual appearance alone, I see NO appealing love interests whatsoever for straight males. I also find it odd that Varric isn't romanceable for females, but I guess that's irrelevant for my character.

Cassandra's got short hair, don't like Vivienne or Josephine-- but you know what's disturbing? I haven't seen any characters in the trailers who have any long hair (worn down). Same old issue with the character creator, I take it.


This. Echoes my opinion in full.

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I seriously just want someone to explain why they all have such intense eye make-up. What is with the raccoon eyes, people? They'd all be so much prettier without all that black soot on their faces. 

I agree, but it's not a deal breaker for me.



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In my case it's the voice acting. I can't stand Manshep (though I like the guy in other roles) and I prefer ManHawke to FemHawke. The voice of the female inquisitor in SWTOR is amazing while the male one is boring (to me). So for example I'm not willing to endure hours of male inquisitor to play the romances that are only available to males like Ashara.

 

This is an opportunity games have that movies and book don't. Such a straightforward solution. But people who otherwise are always talking about games as a medium and including player input in interactive storytelling blah blah fall back to the old fashioned, movie/book way of player-independent characterization, convinced that it's impossible for games to go beyond that.

Yeah, when the voice acting works your nerves, that does make it tougher to replay a game for gated content. Typically when I've come up against this, I am already so past the need for "immersion" (I hate this word) in my character that I can just mock the entire playthrough, MST 3000 style, and soldier through to the bitter end. True, it is a less emotionally satisfying experience than my first playthrough, but my curiosity is slaked, and that's enough for me.

 

Your second point is really interesting to me because it's something I think about often. The argument of how games will be taken seriously as a storytelling medium seems to branch into two opposing arguments, one being "for" games to innovate their own approach to storytelling, capitalizing on the medium's capability of offering choices, the other argument being "against" it-  the idea that a majority of the game's elements have to be out of the player's control for the sake of narrative integrity, in imitation of most novels and movies. I am sympathetic to the latter argument (there's a reason that the most culturally resonant stories have not been choose-your-own-adventures), but I do have hopes that the former is something I get to enjoy in my lifetime. :)



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My biggest disappointment is that the characters aren't all bi/"playersexual" anymore. I don't care if that wasn't believable or whatever. It's the most fun and convenient route for pretty much everyone. And games shouldn't mirror real life in every single aspect. Imagine what kind of boring game that'd be? A person with pointy ears casting fire from their bare hands at a flying dragon? Eh, nothing wrong. Eight (or more, or less) people that can be into both genders? OH NOES DIS MAKES NO SENSE


But then only 4 romances, they said there were allowed to have more because of "set sexuality" So... Cassandra(because she is the face of Inquisition so far), Dorian (all dashing men are romanceable in Bioware games), Sera/Vivienne, and Iron Bull/Solas
Cullen and Josephine, probably not an option and neither would one of each of the possible pairs.

I could possibly as a lesbian have 3 options. 3! With 4 BI I would have two. and yeah there is the option many of us wanted...Cassandra(le sigh) but I can objectively say that there are more options this way than the other

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I seriously just want someone to explain why they all have such intense eye make-up. What is with the raccoon eyes, people? They'd all be so much prettier without all that black soot on their faces. 

 

I'm probably in the minority but I am digging the raccoon eyes  :P


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I'm probably in the minority but I am digging the raccoon eyes  :P

 

I want to take soap and washcloth to their faces! Argh. 



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Speaking on visual appearance alone, I see NO appealing love interests whatsoever for straight males.  I also find it odd that Varric isn't romanceable for females, but I guess that's irrelevant for my character.
 
Cassandra's got short hair, don't like Vivienne or Josephine-- but you know what's disturbing?  I haven't seen any characters in the trailers who have any long hair (worn down).  Same old issue with the character creator, I take it.

But I mean they never wore their hair down. Most of them had it up, like Josephine. Or short like Sera. But none of them wore their hair down long. It is really puzzling as this seems to be a big issue when it was mostly the case

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I'm probably in the minority but I am digging the raccoon eyes  :P

Nah, I'm with ya. I even did a smoky eye for work today in homage. :P



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I seriously just want someone to explain why they all have such intense eye make-up. What is with the raccoon eyes, people? They'd all be so much prettier without all that black soot on their faces. 

It is to keep the sun out of their eyes. Several cultures, such as the ancient Egyptians, wore that thick of eye make up for that reason. This practice is still used today by people like Football players, just they put it on their cheeks instead of their eyes. 


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Nah, I'm with ya. I even did a smoky eye for work today in homage. :P

 

Oh cool. Smoky eyes ftw! 

As long as none of the companions are going into Taylor Momsen territory with their eyeshadow I'm fine with it:

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Oh cool. Smoky eyes ftw! 

As long as none of the companions are going into Taylor Momsen territory with their eyeshadow I'm fine with it:

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On the one hand, I like that she's doing her own thing. On the other hand, I want to take a q-tip and some micellar water to her face. SO CONFLICTED RIGHT NOW.



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karushna5, on 27 Aug 2014 - 6:24 PM, said:

But I mean they never wore their hair down. Most of them had it up, like Josephine. Or short like Sera. But none of them wore their hair down long. It is really puzzling as this seems to be a big issue when it was mostly the case

I want a Bioware game with long hair.  I KNOW they can do it.  Other devs can do it just fine.



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On the one hand, I like that she's doing her own thing. On the other hand, I want to take a q-tip and some micellar water to her face. SO CONFLICTED RIGHT NOW.

 

same here. I like that she has her own style, but i think she sometimes takes it too far and ends up looking like a panda lol



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I could possibly as a lesbian have 3 options. 3! With 4 BI I would have two. and yeah there is the option many of us wanted...Cassandra(le sigh) but I can objectively say that there are more options this way than the other

 

That's very true! Even though it kills me that some of the characters I dearly wanted won't be available to my PC due to sexuality, it stands to reason they wouldn't have been available to anyone if we had the all bi system again. 


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I have a very serious problem with the LIs - there are too many!!!  Honestly, BW, you're not wrong in assuming I have no life, but EIGHT playthroughs?!?!?!  *'cuz yeah, I plan to romance 'em all*  :P