Kind of dissapointed that it doesn't give you any bonuses in single player at all. Makes it less likely I will actually use the multiplayer.
I actually like it better not affecting SP in any way.
I plan to play quite a bit of it provided it's fun, but it's good that it's 100% optional for the people who don't like MP. The last thing you want to do is make MP feel mandatory, especially with a community that appears to be as split on the idea as this one.
There's a difference between possible bad design (removing legitimate options) and deliberate dumbing down (to fit with an MP mode). Even DA2 didn't go as low as to set insane limits on the number of skills you could have hotkeyed at once, and you could plow through that game with just the attack button.
You most definitely haven't played DA2 on Nightmare to make such a ridiculous claim. It was far harder and required much more thinking than anything in Origins.
For the time I played ME3 MP, I personally couldn't have cared less about the SP rewards.The IGN video made it sound like playing MP is completely pointless, that it doesn't benefit us in the game in any way. In ME3 it was a huge benefit, it helped you get the best ending. I can understand if they wanted to change that to something different, like gold, items, etc. but to change it to nothing at all, makes me wonder why I would play it? Of course it looks like fun, not questioning that, ME3's MP was fun too, but you played it not just because it was fun, since so was the main game, you played it was fun and also because it helped with your main game. If MP doesn't in ANY way help with your SP, that means you have the choice between playing something that 'will' help your game, and something that won't. Why, aside from the initial novelty of it, would I choose to play something that won't help me instead of something that will? The MP is going to have to be significantly more fun than the SP in order to get people to play it for the long term if there's not going to be any reward whatsoever for playing it. Here's hoping the IGN folks got it wrong, and there will be some reward after all, since the idea of playing something for 'loot' that you can't actually use is a truly bizarre, and self-defeating, concept indeed.
It has nothing to do with Antisocial. There are gamers out there who prefer SP and strong story. For some MP take away from the story. Also to a certain extent for these SP gamers. It feel as if the gaming industry is pushing them out. Basically saying "Thanks but you are no longer wanted here."
I still consider myself a SP gamer. ME3 MP was the first MP I actually enjoyed due to the team work.
For some ignorant people who doesn't know the first thing about development of ANYTHING.... Mehbi...
How does a MP that is completely and totally seperate from the SP experience, feel like MP is pushing out the SP crowd anyway?
To me it just looks like ME3 style multiplayer without it being tied into the singleplayer in any way which I am thankful for.
I am personally not happy for this as this makes it so DAI has to sell even more copies to break even. Not that I'm doubting that it can't do that but I'm wondering how many extra copies is this going to get sold
The revenue from the optional microtransactions involved will not only pay for MP and further MP content development, but also additional SP content development.
MP looks interesting, and I'm glad there's no connection to SP. Just a good way to have a fun 20 minute session and experiment with all the different classes without having to start new games.
Aside from the feedback? And a game from 2009 having more player options and choice in terms of abilities, weaponry, and equipment?
But, you know, why try and keep interest in the fans you already have - or had - when you can spread yourself so thin by trying to attract everyone else?
Except many of the core fans I know [myself included] have always wanted Bioware to try their hand at MP components in their games. Don't forget - Baldur's Gate had co-op. It was pretty rough but it WAS there. This isn't any different - it's not spreading themselves thin as much as giving their fans MORE to do in the game. Even better because it's optional so those who hate it don't have to touch it and those who want it can gleefully get their MP on.
It's still a win-win no matter how you slice it.
The IGN video made it sound like playing MP is completely pointless, that it doesn't benefit us in the game in any way. In ME3 it was a huge benefit, it helped you get the best ending. I can understand if they wanted to change that to something different, like gold, items, etc. but to change it to nothing at all, makes me wonder why I would play it? Of course it looks like fun, not questioning that, ME3's MP was fun too, but you played it not just because it was fun, since so was the main game, you played it was fun and also because it helped with your main game. If MP doesn't in ANY way help with your SP, that means you have the choice between playing something that 'will' help your game, and something that won't. Why, aside from the initial novelty of it, would I choose to play something that won't help me instead of something that will? The MP is going to have to be significantly more fun than the SP in order to get people to play it for the long term if there's not going to be any reward whatsoever for playing it. Here's hoping the IGN folks got it wrong, and there will be some reward after all, since the idea of playing something for 'loot' that you can't actually use is a truly bizarre, and self-defeating, concept indeed.
The characters you play in the mutliplayer are "soldiers" in the inquisition, and that their stories are concurrent to your inquisitor's story, but they have no impact on the single player experience. It is up to four players, basically dungeon crawling Diablo style looking for loot, gold, etc to improve your multiplayer character across the different levels and zones the multiplayer encompasses.
Basically no it doesn't impact the single player experience at all.
I'll believe that when I get to the end of SP 
Sadly, I'm not sure I'll believe it before then whatever may be said officially, after that whole thing that happened 2 years ago....
Sweet baby jesus are you serious? How can you be so salty about something that is completely optional, has free DLC and doesn't touch/hurt your SP in ANY way?
Ruining it? How? Your SP isn't harmed at all - you're still getting the entirety of the game and not having to give one iota or care towards MP since, you know, it's 100% optional.
You're losing NOTHING but ignoring MP and you're not being "hurt" in any way by it's inclusion - the fact that you seriously act like you've been emotionally harmed by them announcing MP in the game is just absurd beyond belief.
Damn straight I'm serious,that obviously why they have been deliberately avoiding the question for months because they know it has "shameless tacked on cash grab" written all over it hell they have even thrown in micro transactions with "platinum coins" All I have to say is "Shame on You Bioware Shame on You!"After this game you'll get no more Deluxe/Special/Collectors Edition Pre Order's from me,from now on your relegated to 50% and "$10 Bargin Bin" Status my Collectors edition money in future will be going to developers like CD Project Red that don't appeal to the lowest common denominator and tack on a pointless mode.
Kind of dissapointed that it doesn't give you any bonuses in single player at all. Makes it less likely I will actually use the multiplayer.
Would be bad for people who don't like multiplayer games, this way everyone is happy, you guys get to play and we aren't obligated to play it
Oh, I know, trust me. I only wanted to point out that there are always exceptions to the rule, even in the game industry. It is just unfortunate there are still too many new game companies getting the funding to create games without having a firm grasp on what to spend the funding on or game companies being led by big ego developers (ie Daikatana's John Romero but there are many recent examples I forgot the names of, one very recent one with an ex Blizzard developer).Yeah, but DA:I doesn't look like any of those trainwrecks. And as I feel should be pointed out BioWare aren't entirely green developers who doesn't know how to manage their funding, and EA has since those days tightened the reins on their developers significantly.
If I were to be interested in a multiplayer mode, this would probably be it. With no one else I know buying the game and my suspicions of my capability without pause-and-play though it's unlikely I'll give it more than a looksie. It looks fantastic though, I hope it's received well. Glad it has no bearing on SP.
The thing that is going to make or break the multiplayer is whether the gameplay holds up. Especially since there is no benefit to the single player.
Except many of the core fans I know [myself included] have always wanted Bioware to try their hand at MP components in their games. Don't forget - Baldur's Gate had co-op. It was pretty rough but it WAS there. This isn't any different - it's not spreading themselves thin as much as giving their fans MORE to do in the game. Even better because it's optional so those who hate it don't have to touch it and those who want it can gleefully get their MP on.
It's still a win-win no matter how you slice it.
Neverwinter had MP... Hell... Some people bought that game specifically for the MP, so that they could have fun with their friends on private servers and in costum adventures... Hmmm sounds familiar somehow.....
Damn straight I'm serious,that obviously why they have been deliberately avoiding the question for months because they know it has "shameless tacked on cash grab" written all over it hell they have even thrown in micro transactions with "platinum coins" All I have to say is "Shame on You Bioware Shame on You!"After this game you'll get no more Deluxe/Special/Collectors Edition Pre Order's from me,from now on your relegated to 50% and "$10 Bargin Bin" Status my Collectors edition money in future will be going to developers like CD Project Red that don't appeal to the lowest common denominator and tack on a pointless mode.
But..... The MP and every attached DLC is completely free........ 
Neverwinter had MP... Hell... Some people bought that game specifically for the MP, so that they could have fun with their friends on private servers and in costum adventures... Hmmm sounds familiar somehow.....
Neverwinter was a special animal though - I mean from the get-go they were touting that as something revolutionary since half the game's intended focus was to let people make custom DM modules for the MP. DAI is more along the veins of BG in that it's primarily a single player game with a completely optional MP experience. I would argue that NWN was MUCH stronger on the MP side given all the freedom they provided.
Neverwinter had MP... Hell... Some people bought that game specifically for the MP, so that they could have fun with their friends on private servers and in costum adventures... Hmmm sounds familiar somehow.....
You know what's funny? Plenty of people actually complained about the lack of MP in DA:O.
But..... The MP and every attached DLC is completely free........
Eh, let him go. The less irrational complaints about something that we havent played yet. The better
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It looks like a light multiplayer system to me. Utilizing parts of the dragon age inquisition system that are already included and just adding network connectivity.
Probably didn't take up much, not as heavy as the mass effect 3 MP.
I actually like it better not affecting SP in any way.
I plan to play quite a bit of it provided it's fun, but it's good that it's 100% optional for the people who don't like MP. The last thing you want to do is make MP feel mandatory, especially with a community that appears to be as split on the idea as this one.
This is true, but if it only gave you small bonuses to loot, money or maybe materials, it would probably feel less mandatory than ME3's multiplayer, and it would give people who wanted to do multiplayer a slight SP bonus.
I understand what you're saying - but the fundamental difference here seems to be you believe Bioware intentionally misled us about ME3's SP/MP whereas I believe them when they say it wasn't intentional/a bug and thus was fixed. Perhaps I'm too forgiving - perhaps you're too cynical. I don't know in the end but given that it was fixed and I can legitimately reconcile to myself that it was entirely possible to be a bug, I'm ok with looking forward and accepting their statements.
Will I possibly get burned? Maybe. Do I believe I will get burned? No. Will I raise a fuss if I do? For sure xD
I don't think it was necessarily intentional misleading (though Chris Priestly's post on the change implies it was) It could have been a simple screw-up.
But it was a screw-up that took months to fix, and the first I heard it called a mistake was by Alan only a couple of weeks ago.
But in any case, the real problem was that deliberately planned or honest mistake. we were repeated assured that it couldn't possibly happen. Before, during, and after launch. And yet it happened anyway. And, as I said, took months to fix.
And I'm seeing the same thing unfolding now. "No, it can't possibly happen, they're totally separate..."
Let the new forum nerf wars commence!
Damn straight I'm serious,that obviously why they have been deliberately avoiding the question for months because they know it has "shameless tacked on cash grab" written all over it hell they have even thrown in micro transactions with "platinum coins" All I have to say is "Shame on You Bioware Shame on You!"After this game you'll get no more Deluxe/Special/Collectors Edition Pre Order's from me,from now on your relegated to 50% and "$10 Bargin Bin" Status my Collectors edition money in future will be going to developers like CD Project Red that don't appeal to the lowest common denominator and tack on a pointless mode.
OR they made a strategic marketing to decision to show it later in the development time and/or wait until it was completely ready to show (since that's what they've stated in regards to SP stuff). You don't have to spend a dime in the MP section of this game - the same with ME3 MP.
Thinking everything has some underhanded and nefarious hidden agenda must be exhausting.
First of all, I'd have liked those options back, to be clear.Aside from the feedback? And a game from 2009 having more player options and choice in terms of abilities, weaponry, and equipment?
But, you know, why try and keep interest in the fans you already have - or had - when you can spread yourself so thin by trying to attract everyone else?
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