Now you are putting words in my mouth,I've stated multiple times that I will give the MP a chance.I'm reserving judgement for now.
No you have already made it clear that MP is a detriment and now that you have been called out you are trying to back peddle into some neutral zone.
yeah I suppose you're right
Edit: and trying to eliminate that kinda of thing is more along the lines of the community I think BioWare is hoping to establish
though it is has been an important part of the hike in difficulty in most of BioWare's games.
It would certainly encourage communication
Yeah, friendly fire was a big change in the difficulty settings in previous games, but I expect different tricks to be pulled as far as hiking the difficulty.
I also figure cross class combos might be really necessary for most fights, thus making the communication aspect important, since it's not like you'll be able to set that up in a tactics screen now.
Umm the entire argument is based on them being skeptical
I'm arguing based on the source of this skepticism. Why would mp be a valid source of it where the issues always from somewhere else?
Same stuff was said back then too
About what in octorber 2011?
It is not a oxymoron.
Stop using words you don't understand.
Yes sir.I am so very dumb as to not know what a word means. 
Now you are putting words in my mouth,I've stated multiple times that I will give the MP a chance.I'm reserving judgement for now.
the point is, thinking that something will be great and something you will enjoy is an incentive
as you pointed out in response to my question about SP
I'm not sure why you think that doesn't/can't apply to MP
Hey I'm curious to see how many talking points from ME3 get recycled.
That's fine. So why are you posting, inviting people to talk with you about the subject only to reject their argument because you don't trust the source? What's the point of discussing this if you've already made up your mind?
I'm arguing based on the source of this skepticism. Why would mp be a valid source of it where the issues always from somewhere else?
Because it's still from Bioware, sure its from a different team I agree. But it's still a valid concern regardless of how you think of it
No you have already made it clear that MP is a detriment and now that you have been called out you are trying to back peddle into some neutral zone.
I really really dislike people who think they know what I think better than I do.I'm not back peddling on anything.
To the people thinking that the MP won't affect the SP: It already has.
They designed the entire gameplay system with accommodating multiplayer in mind. There are no sustainable abilities. There is an 8 ability "loadout" and no radial menu (much like Diablo 3).
These are irrefutable facts, and if you think they aren't due to MP, I'm really not sure what I can say that will convince you.
What's your source on no sustainable abilities?
What's your source on 8 abilities limit for PC? On console it has nothing to do with multiplayer.
How the hell does no radial menu tie into multiplayer at all?
Why do you try to impose your perception/opinions as fact? Can't you just say ''I don't like multiplayer'' and be done with it?
What does mp have to do with making anyone skeptical, it has no integration with sp. I would understand this 6 month back when we barely had any info on dai. Why does mp make the difference with a 200+hour sp game?
Pre-release information and forums is only useful if you trust the source of the intel. If a person is so skeptical of Bioware at this point that the devs saying (multiple times) that MP and SP do not touch, is not to be believed then I suggest that person listens to the following advice:
Because there's no point in trying to talk to a person or have a discussion with a person if they are going to reject the sole source of information
What's your source on no sustainable abilities?
What's your source on 8 abilities limit for PC? On console it has nothing to do with multiplayer.
How the hell does no radial menu tie into multiplayer at all?
Why do you try to impose your perception/opinions as fact? Can't you just say ''I don't like multiplayer'' and be done with it?
That's fine. So why are you posting, inviting people to talk with you about the subject only to reject their argument because you don't trust the source? What's the point of discussing this if you've already made up your mind?
If something beyond "We mean it this time" is said, I'm curious to hear what it is.
But simply saying "it's optional" is simply not enough. heard it before, and it wasn't true.
Edit: Frankly I'd be very surprised if Bioware didn't expect suspicion and hostility for this. It's only natural.
About what in octorber 2011?
That's when MP was announced for ME3. Along with assurances that "It's optional"
Because it's still from Bioware, sure its from a different team I agree. But it's still a valid concern regardless of how you think of it
No it's not.What ever issue a perso should have about bw sp should be something that effects the sp. For month bw have been stating how their main focus is the sp stating this is the biggest most expansive sp they have ever made with open exploration. Yet no one is stating how with will effect the sp, the thing they think with effect the sp is mp that has no connection to the sp what so ever.
That makes no sense and it's all because of a 5 second breathing scene you had to jump through hoops to see that made no difference to a bad ending.
If something beyond "We mean it this time" is said, I'm curious to hear what it is.
But simply saying "it's optional" is simply not enough. heard it before, and it wasn't true.
Well what more could they possibly be expected to say?
If something beyond "We mean it this time" is said, I'm curious to hear what it is.
But simply saying "it's optional" is simply not enough. heard it before, and it wasn't true.
Then what do you want them to say to assure you? Because as it stands the only thing that will appease you is to wait until the game is released and see the truth.
Well what more could they possibly be expected to say?
*shrug* that's why I'm curious.
Hey it's not my fault they took a credibility hit with ME3
That's when MP was announced for ME3. Along with assurances that "It's optional"
Wow, and yet it had no effect on the quality of the story. So your issue is because you had to jump through hoops to see a 5 second breathing scene of in horrible ending that had no real effect on the story what so ever(Shepard would still be dead no matter what in the original ending by the way.) mean some how something wrong with happen in the story of dai be cause it had non integrated mp?
No it's not.What ever issue a perso should have about bw sp should be something that effects the sp. For month bw have been stating how their main focus is the sp stating this is the biggest most expansive sp they have ever made with open exploration. Yet no one is stating how with will effect the sp, the thing they think with effect the sp is mp that has no connection to the sp what so ever.
That makes no sense and it's all because of a 5 second breathing scene you had to jump through hoops to see that made no difference to a bad ending.
And that scene was locked content that could only available by playing MP which the ME once said you didn't need to do
That's why some people are gonna be skeptical until the game releases
*shrug* that's why I'm curious.
Hey it's not my fault they took a credibility hit with ME3
And that had nothing to do with the mp.
*shrug* that's why I'm curious.
Hey it's not my fault they took a credibility hit with ME3
Well its pretty straightforward, you either take them at their word, or you don't, and simply wait a while. This pretty much holds true for any feature they could possibly announce.
And that scene was locked content that could only available by playing MP which the ME once said you didn't need to do
That's why some people are gonna be skeptical until the game releases
MP or an IoS exclusive app.
And that scene was locked content that could only available by playing MP which the ME once said you didn't need to do
That's why some people are gonna be skeptical until the game releases
Yep.
I'm sitting here playing the waiting game.
I was gonna preorder on origin on the 12th so I could preload. Not happening now.
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