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[AresKeith]

MP or an IoS exclusive app.

 

Oh right that was a thing

[addiction21]

I really really dislike people who think they know what I think better than I do.I'm not back peddling on anything.

 

I have not acted like I know what you thing. Only what you have said here. You don't know what irony or oxymoron means and when challenged you back peddled to shift the goal post.

 

So make some actual arguments or just continue to move the posts and act like a victim.

[leaguer of one]

And that scene was locked content that could only available by playing MP which the ME once said you didn't need to do

 

That's why some people are gonna be skeptical until the game releases 

And what did this 5 second scene even do or ensure? Shepard would be dead no matter what, even in the 5 second breathing scene. You guys are splitting hairs on minor things.

That means nothing to what bw is doing in dai. It does not even effect the sp in any way. So are you worried they are going to lock you out from a 5 second clip that makes no changes to the story what so ever?

[CronoDragoon]

I honestly don't know how any of you are going to have time to play MP. Considering there's about 200 hours of content in the main game and I, for one, have at least 4 playthroughs marked down (and that's just based on what kind of inquisitor I'll be playing without even considering decision points) and will likely come up with more, even if I was remotely interested in playing MP (which as an introvert and borderline-who-may-have-crossed-the-border misanthrope I certainly do not! I have better things to do at home than deal with people. Seriously I'm renowned for not even answering the front door and forcing my friends to text me to let me know they're standing outside!), I wouldn't be able to see myself having time for anything other than the main game!

Well, here's what I figure. You wake up at 7 am, get some coffee, and start playing SP, right? You go HAM with it, occasionally stopping to pee or eat, and after about 16 hours your eyelids are drooping, you are exhausted, and that bed looks mighty good.

That's when you quit out and start playing MP until it's 7 am again.

[Vandicus]

Oh right that was a thing

I actually think its existence brings up an interesting point, in that the issue with galactic readiness could've happened entirely without the existence of multiplayer in ME3.

 

Since the singleplayer team was in control of the amount of warscore available in the game overall, I find it ironic that the multiplayer tie-in developed by people who made no error in that regard frequently gets blasted for it.

[cjones91]

I have not acted like I know what you thing. Only what you have said here. You don't know what irony or oxymoron means and when challenged you back peddled to shift the goal post.

 

So make some actual arguments or just continue to move the posts and act like a victim.

So I used one word in the wrong context.Mistakes happen.

 

And maybe you should stop being hostile.

[omnitremere]

Why do people keep saying ME MP was integrated into the SP? As I recall even before the patch you could get the best ending(one with Shepard breathing) without playing any MP at all.  You just had to work really hard for it.  After the patch it wasn't really all that difficult.  Am I missing something? Anyway I can't say that I'm totally geeked about DAMP but I'll probably give it a whirl.  ME MP was unquestionably a lot of fun.

[AresKeith]

And what did this 5 second scene even do or ensure? Shepard would be dead no matter what, even in the 5 second breathing scene. You guys are splitting hairs on minor things.

That means nothing to what bw is doing in dai. It does not even effect the sp in any way. So are you worried they are going to lock you out from a 5 second clip that makes no changes to the story what so ever?

 

You either missed the point or just trying to argue for the sake of arguing now, because the scene itself is irrelevant to the discussion. It's about the fact that content was locked only to be available by playing MP

 

And secondly I'm not one of the people worried, I just understand where they are coming from by being skeptical 

[cjones91]

Why do people keep saying ME MP was integrated into the SP? As I recall even before the patch you could get the best ending(one with Shepard breathing) without playing any MP at all.  You just had to work really hard for it.  After the patch it wasn't really all that difficult.  Am I missing something? Anyway I can't say that I'm totally geeked about DAMP but I'll probably give it a whirl.  ME MP was unquestionably a lot of fun.

That was proven to be false,before the Extended Cut it was pretty much impossible to get enough war assets even with a perfect playthrough to obtain the breath scene.

[addiction21]

And what did this 5 second scene even do or ensure? Shepard would be dead no matter what, even in the 5 second breathing scene. You guys are splitting hairs on minor things.

That means nothing to what bw is doing in dai. It does not even effect the sp in any way. So are you worried they are going to lock you out from a 5 second clip that makes no changes to the story what so ever?

 

That scene is so out of place that the only reason so many call it "the best ending" is so they can moan about MP. How in all the endings Shep is up on the Citadel but in this one "best" ending they some how fall thousands of feet to end up in rubble?

 

If it wasn't for the initial galaxy readiness to get it the same people would be tearing it apart for what bs it really is. That scene is so out of place and makes no sense what so ever but it touches MP so it serves as a tool for those that don't like MP a reason to endlessly moan about MP.
 

[Nohvarr]

*shrug*  that's why I'm curious.

 

Hey it's not my fault they took a credibility hit with ME3

You're decision to reject what has been told to you by Bioware for this game is your decision. You came to it based on past experience and the available information, but ultimately you made the choice not to believe them about the nature of MP as it relates to SP in DA:I. You then presented this viewpoint on this forum, and when other people, who have chosen to believe that MP and SP will not mix as stated by Bioware, (again based off their own experience and the available information),You continue to hold to your views.

 

We are at an impass, and this discussion has become pointless. To those of you who are skeptical, remain that way and wait for the games release to either confirm or refute your concerns. To everyone else, continue onto another topic. This one is going nowhere.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

What I'm curious about is if we will be able to customize our character's face this time. I hated how in the ME3 MP we couldn't do that, but at the same time I understand that it would have taken too much work and resources to have a character creator for the different races. But since Inquisition already has the cc for multiple races, I wonder if it will be possible. Pretty please say yes. 

[Biotic Sage]

What's your source on no sustainable abilities?

 

What's your source on 8 abilities limit for PC? On console it has nothing to do with multiplayer.

 

How the hell does no radial menu tie into multiplayer at all?

 

Why do you try to impose your perception/opinions as fact? Can't you just say ''I don't like multiplayer'' and be done with it?

 

The funny thing is I never said I don't like multiplayer, so it seems as though you're being more presumptuous than you claim I'm being.

 

My source for no sustainable abilities is literally every gameplay video and demo we've seen.  They aren't in there.

 

My source for 8 abilities is Mike Laidlaw on twitter confirming that the only way to use abilities is through hotkeys, and there are only 8 hotkeys available on the UI.  We can easily deduce that they wouldn't add more for the PC UI because that would alter the gameplay fundamentally, and they've said that gameplay is identical across all platforms.

 

I actually quite enjoy multiplayer in ME3 and I'm sure I'll enjoy it in DA:I.  That doesn't change the facts I'm laying out.  People can come to their own conclusions about them depending on what they value in their DA games.

[AresKeith]

What I'm curious about is if we will be able to customize our character's face this time. I hated how in the ME3 MP we couldn't do that, but at the same time I understand that it would have taken too much work and resources to have a character creator for the different races. But since Inquisition has multiple races, I wonder if it will be possible. Pretty please say yes. 

 

I don't know about faces, but I'm sure we can customize their armor

[dekkerd]

And what did this 5 second scene even do or ensure? Shepard would be dead no matter what, even in the 5 second breathing scene. You guys are splitting hairs on minor things.
That means nothing to what bw is doing in dai. It does not even effect the sp in any way. So are you worried they are going to lock you out from a 5 second clip that makes no changes to the story what so ever?

Oh, the 5 second scene arguement again.

Have a link http://forum.bioware...med/?p=17023799

And kindly provide proof shep died no matter what. His/her story is over doesn't count.

Ugh.

Back on topic. So far we know of nothing exclusive to MP, except possibly the tevinter map.

[leaguer of one]

You either missed the point or just trying to argue for the sake of arguing now, because the scene itself is irrelevant to the discussion. It's about the fact that content was locked only to be available by playing MP

 

And secondly I'm not one of the people worried, I just understand where they are coming from by being skeptical 

That what I'm arguing about. ME3 had integration with is mp. It's mp had an optional impact to it's ending. How is damp going to do that when it has no way to interact with the story? You are so upset about the if and you are ignoring the "how". DAMP does not even have a "how" in effect to the sp story. Why would it effect it if it does not a "how"?

[DiegoRaphael]

And what did this 5 second scene even do or ensure? Shepard would be dead no matter what, even in the 5 second breathing scene. You guys are splitting hairs on minor things.

That means nothing to what bw is doing in dai. It does not even effect the sp in any way. So are you worried they are going to lock you out from a 5 second clip that makes no changes to the story what so ever?

 

It is not the 5s scene, but the several MP matches you had to play to get it, and if someone who does not like MP has to do this, it sucks. And why chase the 5s? Why someone tries to get all achievements from a game? Why people save and reload all the time? And so on and on.

 

They want to get the best, be the best, see everything, do the perfect run, the perfect game, do everything the game allows then to do, to be a completionist, to get clousure and etc etc etc...

[Iakus]

MP or an IoS exclusive app.

Did ME3 come with a free iPod?

[J-Reyno]

What I'm curious about is if we will be able to customize our character's face this time. I hated how in the ME3 MP we couldn't do that, but at the same time I understand that it would have taken too much work and resources to have a character creator for the different races. But since Inquisition already has the cc for multiple races, I wonder if it will be possible. Pretty please say yes. 

 

Confirmed via twitter that we cannot customize MP characters.  Each character will have a set appearance since they are to act as actual, defined characters with personalities and everything.  Possible we may even meet or see them in SP.

 

Link: https://twitter.com/...366779259314176

[leaguer of one]

That was proven to be false,before the Extended Cut it was pretty much impossible to get enough war assets even with a perfect playthrough to obtain the breath scene.

You do understand that no matter what Shepard is dead, even in that breath scene nd damp does not even have a way to effect the sp like that, right?

[VelvetStraitjacket]

I don't know about faces, but I'm sure we can customize their armor

 

Yeah I read about the armor, and that's nice and all, but it doesn't help when basically everyone is running around with the same 4 faces.

 

Confirmed via twitter that we cannot customize MP characters.  Each character will have a set appearance since they are to act as actual, defined characters with personalities and everything.  Possible we may even meet or see them in SP.

 

Link: https://twitter.com/...366779259314176

 

Well, ****.

[Iakus]

You're decision to reject what has been told to you by Bioware for this game is your decision. You came to it based on past experience and the available information, but ultimately you made the choice not to believe them about the nature of MP as it relates to SP in DA:I. You then presented this viewpoint on this forum, and when other people, who have chosen to believe that MP and SP will not mix as stated by Bioware, (again based off their own experience and the available information),You continue to hold to your views.

 

We are at an impass, and this discussion has become pointless. To those of you who are skeptical, remain that way and wait for the games release to either confirm or refute your concerns. To everyone else, continue onto another topic. This one is going nowhere.

We are at an impasse until new information becomes available.

[AresKeith]

That what I'm arguing about. ME3 had integration with is mp. It's mp had an optional impact to it's ending. How is damp going to do that when it has no way to interact with the story? You are so upset about the if and you are ignoring the "how". DAMP does not even have a "how" in effect to the sp story. Why would it effect it if it does not a "how"?

 

That's for the people to find out when the game releases

 

And stop saying "you" when I already said I don't have a problem with it

[Vandicus]

Did ME3 come with a free iPod?

It warrants bringing up for reasons I've enumerated previously.

 

1. The MP didn't directly cause the problem. It was a screw up by the SP team.

2. It diffuses the notion that Bioware was trying to force people to play MP. When presented with the notion that Bioware was trying to force people to buy iPads, they'd find it patently ridiculous. Yet the premise is the same as the one for forcing people to play MP.

 

 

If its worth bringing up, the language and attitude seems to be different. In ME3, it was that MP was optional. For DA:I, it seems to be, no tie-in whatsoever.

[AresKeith]

Yeah I read about the armor, and that's nice and all, but it doesn't help when basically everyone is running around with the same 4 faces.

 

 

Well, ****.

 

I heard that the characters are fixed, so I don't think we will