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#976
katerinafm

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I bet that Avaar guy will be one of the MP characters.



#977
leaguer of one

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It is not the 5s scene, but the several MP matches you had to play to get it, and if someone who does not like MP has to do this, it sucks. And why chase the 5s? Why someone tries to get all achievements from a game? Why people save and reload all the time? And so on and on.

 

They want to get the best, be the best, see everything, do the perfect run, the perfect game, do everything the game allows then to do, to be a completionist, to get clousure and etc etc etc...

Wait so seeing that 5 second breath scene made up for those horrible ending some how? I mean Shepard still dies in that breath scene, so doing anything to see it is pointless pre extended cut. Heck, there was no achievement for it.

And being that damp not going to effect the sp  for dai, what there to even fear?



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You do understand that no matter what Shepard is dead, even in that breath scene nd damp does not even have a way to effect the sp like that, right?

It doesn't matter,the MP still affected the endings before the EC.



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So I used one word in the wrong context.Mistakes happen.

 

And maybe you should stop being hostile.

 

No hostility just own that you made a mistake instead of acting like you are a victim and make a better argument out of it.
 



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Because you can't have multiplayer with more than 8 active abilities at once and you certainly can't have sustained abilities. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go figure out how the hell I'm supposed to play my World of Warcraft character that has over 30 keybinds.

 

You see, none of these changes you're attributing to being a result of MP are requirements of having a MP which creates a bit of a flaw in that whole "deduction" thing you have going on over there.

 

Yeah, the problem with your argument here is that WoW is a PC game.  DA:I is designed to also accommodate consoles, which use controllers, not keyboards.  Which means limited keybinding options.



#981
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We are at an impasse until new information becomes available.

You've already stated that you don't believe them, so why should I assume that new information (aside from the games actual release) would change your mind?



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Sylvius the Mad

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How could you use radial in MP? It requires a pause. Logical reason to remove it is to unify SP and MP control schemes. We still haven't seen the PC UI.

Instead, they should have made it available in real-time (by separating the controls).

#983
leaguer of one

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We are at an impasse until new information becomes available.

What new info is even needed? The fact that mp is not effect sp should be enough.



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leaguer of one

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It doesn't matter,the MP still affected the endings before the EC.

Barely, and it was not what made the ending bad. In fact, locked off scene was a slap in the face. The fact that damp is not effect the sp should leave you with no issues.



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DAMP? YES PLEASE!

 

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#986
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That's for the people to find out when the game releases

 

And stop saying "you" when I already said I don't have a problem with it

What is there to find out? It does not even have anything from mp to go to the sp like how me3 did. There is no proof need to show it won't effect the sp.



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You've already stated that you don't believe them, so why should I assume that new information (aside from the games actual release) would change your mind?

I don't know what new information might convince me.  Solo-mode or separate install might have, but those are not happening.

 

I do know that repeating the same lines  from 2.5 years ago will not do it.


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#988
Biotic Sage

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Is pretty sad that so many people on here have went from praising inquisition & BW but as soon as a optional MP mode is announced it's "F**k EAware & DA, ill only buy TW3 cos DA:I will be bargain bin crap made for casual CoD gamers". I really don't get how someone could skip a game they've been waiting to play, thats potentially 200+ hour's long, just cos it dares to have a "just for fun" MP mode that can easily be ignored if they're not interested in playing it. :huh:

 

Those people seem pretty immature to me.  I most certainly will be enjoying the hell out of the game.  However, I think it's fair play when concerned fans voice an opinion about gameplay decisions that they find to be less enjoyable than others.  I have no problem with a DA co-op mode.  Seems awesome.  I'll enjoy playing a Diablo 3 like dungeon crawler with my friends Dragon Age style.  Lord knows I played 500+ hours of Diablo 3 so I obviously like that sort of thing.  

 

The problem for me stems from what I view to be gameplay sacrifices in order to allow for the multiplayer mode to function properly.  I.E: No sustainable abilities, no radial menu, no more than 8 usable abilities in combat.



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I don't know what new information might convince me.  Solo-mode or separate install might have, but those are not happening.

 

I do know that repeating the same lines  from 2.5 years ago will not do it.

 

They've confirmed that you can solo the MP, it'll just be harder.



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Well, I knew I was going to regret coming back on here one last time before bed.  Now I feel compelled to post once more.  Leaguer of one, you said lakus wasn't having trust issues but was instead being insecure.  I deny this with every fiber of my being considering the empirical evidence stands with him and the other jilted BioWare fans (ie myself included).  Here are the facts:

 

BioWare lied about the Javik DLC not being locked on the disc: FACT

BioWare lied about Multiplayer not affecting SP content in ME 3: FACT (doesn't matter how insignificant you think that "breathe" scene is)

BioWare lied (and over-exaggerated) about the endings themselves: FACT

 

If a close and long time friend of yours was caught stealing your shoes three times in a row, you would be hard pressed to trust him after that.  It stands to reason.   Insecurity?  I scoff at the notion.  I'm not going to debate any more about the multiplayer because what's been said has been said and fair points have been made on both sides. But I find this increasing hostility to differing or dissenting opinions on this forum disconcerting to say the least.  Any side that refuses to listen to what the other side has to say and feels the need to be sardonic to the opposition and overly-hostile isn't worth talking to in my opinion. 


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Instead, they should have made it available in real-time (by separating the controls).

 

I've only played consoles so I never used a tactical menu before.  Is it that much different from using a pause?



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I don't know what new information might convince me.  Solo-mode or separate install might have, but those are not happening.

 

I do know that repeating the same lines  from 2.5 years ago will not do it.

1. Are you anthrophobic?

2.It has no way of effecting the sp what so ever. No proof is needed.



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They've confirmed that you can solo the MP, it'll just be harder.

Sounds like it's not balanced for it.

 

I mean yeah you can solo ME3's MP too.  But I doubt a lot of people could



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I don't know what new information might convince me.  Solo-mode or separate install might have, but those are not happening.

 

I do know that repeating the same lines  from 2.5 years ago will not do it.

Then we are at an impass and continuing this dicussion is pointless. We can pick it up either once the game releases or they say what you want them to say.

 

Moving on.


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What I'm curious about is if we will be able to customize our character's face this time.


Pretty sure you can't.

#996
ladyofpayne

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Any chance to play in chevalier costume?



#997
Sylvius the Mad

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It warrants bringing up for reasons I've enumerated previously.

1. The MP didn't directly cause the problem. It was a screw up by the SP team.

It wasn't a screw up. According to a post on BSN by Chris Priestly, the MP requirement was done intentionally to encourage people to try MP.

I quoted it fairly recently.

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What is there to find out? It does not even have anything from mp to go to the sp like how me3 did. There is no proof need to show it won't effect the sp.

 

To find out whether or not they should be skeptical



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Can we play DAMP cross-platform with a PS4 and PC?  That would mean I could play with my wife, and it would rock!



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BioWare lied about the Javik DLC not being locked on the disc: FACT

 

Source?

 

 

BioWare lied about Multiplayer not affecting SP content in ME 3: FACT (doesn't matter how insignificant you think that "breathe" scene is)

 

An argument rendered utterly irrelevant by two things: one, I cannot find a lick of proof that that breathe scene is in before the EC, and two: the EC

 

 

BioWare lied (and over-exaggerated) about the endings themselves: FACT

 

I've been on the forums since DAII, and it was the fans that exaggerated, not BioWare.

 

Also, I've no sympathy for anyone who didn't see the ending coming back in ME2.