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[Iakus]

But as we've established, a multiplayer game doesn't die when the servers go down. It just becomes a single player game. So I'm still confused as to why you think it would decrease the game's overall lifespan. Are you taking some sort of amortized average or something?

Not that it really matters. The goal of the extended lifespan is actually not to make a game last into perpetuity. The goal of extending the lifespan is to keep as many players playing for as many calendar days from launch as possible. It's far more valuable to have 100,000 players play for six months after launch than it is to have 10,000 players play for six years. Why? Because 100,000 players possibly buying DLC is a lot better than 10,000. Continued development for the game will only last for another six to sixteen months before the team moves on to other projects. There's a huge dropoff in the revenue stream after that first year.

Sounds like short term profit and flavor of the month fads>long term staying power

[Ryzaki]

As ish ten mentioned, the dependence on servers. Perhaps I should have said "this incarnation of MP". In a year, or five, or ten the servers get sunset red and then an entire feature of the game is gone, you're wondering what this "galactic readiness" thing on the main menu is. And that's assuming g the online DRM will even let you start up the game.

 

I've just kind of accepted that *shrug* the game should still be playable regardless.

 

True but sadly that's not just relegated to MP games. (The DRM bit I mean). But really hopefully they'll be a patch to make said DRM unnecessary once they know they're bringing down the servers.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Welp, after a few hours to think, while i still consider the idea of multiplayer appalling i might learn to ignore it (by using tons of alcohol)....still hoping its a optional install though...

[Gloomfrost]

That awkward moment when you realize a single person doesn't have the power to determine what has, or should have, value to others.

 

Welp.

Thanks for finding nothing of value in my post from a lifetime enjoying RPGing.

 

Again read please don't react to a post without carefully reading it first. The only negative" thing i said about DAMP is i was less "less than enthusiastic reception"

 

that for me, again did you see i said "To me good RPG's are all about Legacy."

 

Please eloquently explain how i have tryed to "determine what has, or should have, value to others."

[Agelico]

It may have been explained somewhere but I can't find it: IGN states there are 9 characters at launch while the official site mentions 12. IGN is wrong?

[BrogDog]

Has anyone said if there will be an option for LOCAL co-op?  I would love to be able to play this split-screen with my wife.  

It's sad how most all major releases these days focus on playing with strangers rather than bringing families together through gaming.

[hoorayforicecream]

Sounds like short term profit and flavor of the month fads>long term staying power

 

Long term staying power doesn't fund new games or put food on the table.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Welp, after a few hours to think, while i still consider the idea of multiplayer appalling i might learn to ignore it (by using tons of alcohol)....still hoping its a optional install though...

 

I would like to see an option in the settings menu to toggle the icon / bar selector to open up multiplayer to become invisible. That would be great. 

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Has anyone said if there will be an option for LOCAL co-op?  I would love to be able to play this split-screen with my wife.  

It's sad how most all major releases these days focus on playing with strangers rather than bringing families together through gaming.

They just want you to buy 2 consoles

[The Night Haunter]

Has anyone said if there will be an option for LOCAL co-op?  I would love to be able to play this split-screen with my wife.  

It's sad how most all major releases these days focus on playing with strangers rather than bringing families together through gaming.

They confirmed no split-screen. I'm almost positive there is also no LAN version. There are, or at the very least almost certainly will be, invites to group together, so you should be able to make a group with your friends (wife) rather than strangers.

[waitwhat]

So did we ever find out if it'd be cross-generation so PS3 and PS4 (or 360 and XB1) can play with each other?

[Gloomfrost]

Long term staying power doesn't fund new games or put food on the table.

 

Ahh i see, planned obsolescence is your preferred method of gaming?

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

I would like to see an option in the settings menu to toggle the icon / bar selector to open up multiplayer to become invisible. That would be great. 

eh, i dont care if i can see it, i just dont want to waste disk space, especially if i could fit say...BG1 and 2 in the same space i would waste for DAI MP

[Ghostjs]

So did we ever find out if it'd be cross-generation so PS3 and PS4 (or 360 and XB1) can play with each other?

I really wouldn't count on that happening. I'm not even sure if Sony and Microsoft have a system setup to allow that.

[Ryzaki]

Ahh i see, planned obsolescence is your preferred method of gaming?

 

Uh no but I'm pretty sure the devs want their games to be profitable. MP is a generally successful way of doing it.

[hoorayforicecream]

Ahh i see, planned obsolescence is your preferred method of gaming?

 

Yup. I own new consoles as well as old. I've upgraded my PC over time too. I look forward to new games. I certainly wouldn't be happy sticking with a perfectly functional 486 with dialup anymore.

[Ozzy]

Happy for those that are happy!

 

I don't think I'll get much mileage out of it. If there was a greater narrative to it, say something similar to the MP in AC games, I might be more in to it.

[Lexxbomb]

Their skepticism exists because at the release of ME3, it was impossible to get the breath scene without doing something to improve galactic readiness.

Its not the only reason Mr Schumacher - for basically all of Dragon Age's development (going back to Origins) there has been a constant, please don't introduce multiplayer. Heck we even had it with Mass Effect. this group will feel betrayed.

[Gnoster]

Having read the official FAQ, I have two questions I can't seem to find an answer for, but maybe others here have:

 

1. Anyone heard if the servers are cross platforms? I am thinking of changing my PC order to a PS4/Xbox order due to my wanting to buy a new console finally, but I would like to play DAMP with my friends, who will be playing on PC
2. I am guessing there will be some form of group finder considering (based on the talk in the IGN video) certain class composition is required/preferred, e.g. a mage and tank is needed?

[Gloomfrost]

Uh no but I'm pretty sure the devs want their games to be profitable. MP is a generally successful way of doing it.

 

Maybe this is the Real Elephant in the room. Bioware just is not the same company anymore.

 

The Doctors have left the building and the Commandant called EA is now issuing orders.

 

"For love of the game" has very few admirers anymore.

 

Micro-transactions and Multi-player FTW!

[Ryzaki]

Maybe this is the Real Elephant in the room. Bioware just is not the same company anymore.

 

The Doctors have left the building and the Commandant called EA is now issuing orders.

 

"For love of the game" has very few admirers anymore.

 

Love of the game doesn't pay rent or put food on the table.

 

I'd be satisfied with some love of the game mixed with profitable ventures mixed in that didn't heavily effect the SP. If MP and Sp are TRULY seperate I'll be content. Of course I have to wait for release for this to be verified.

[BackdoorPaco]

 

 

Having read the official FAQ, I have two questions I can't seem to find an answer for, but maybe others here have:

 

1. Anyone heard if the servers are cross platforms? I am thinking of changing my PC order to a PS4/Xbox order due to my wanting to buy a new console finally, but I would like to play DAMP with my friends, who will be playing on PC
2. I am guessing there will be some form of group finder considering (based on the talk in the IGN video) certain class composition is required/preferred, e.g. a mage and tank is needed?

 

1) Cross platform is rarely seen, so it's highly doubtful that it'll be included. To be honest the only cross platform games I can think of are a couple of MMOs and Lost Planet.

 

2) From what I understood every dungeon (instance) can be completed with any party composition,but there are just certain areas that can only be accessed by class x and not y or z.

 

 

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Maybe this is the Real Elephant in the room. Bioware just is not the same company anymore.

 

The Doctors have left the building and the Commandant called EA is now issuing orders.

 

"For love of the game" has very few admirers anymore.

 

Micro-transactions and Multi-player FTW!

Im sorry but im tired of this OMG EA IS EVILZ!!! argument, probably because im a PC gamer and EA is the last big publisher that doesnt treat us like the plague,

 

 

anyway, as much as i hate MP and micro transactions neither EA nor Bioware is a charity, their employees dont eat "love for the game" and their games arent made on happy thoughts. Any method that brings more money should be used, high profits lead to happy shareholders, happy shareholders lead to Bioware not going the way of the dinesaur

[Lexxbomb]

Yup. I own new consoles as well as old. I've upgraded my PC over time too. I look forward to new games. I certainly wouldn't be happy sticking with a perfectly functional 486 with dialup anymore.

 

Some of my fav games play the best on a 486... are you implying I shouldn't be able to play Kings Quest the way it was envisioned to be played?

 

Maybe this is the Real Elephant in the room. Bioware just is not the same company anymore.

 

The Doctors have left the building and the Commandant called EA is now issuing orders.

 

"For love of the game" has very few admirers anymore.

 

Micro-transactions and Multi-player FTW!

God I hope not... Bioware is the only EA company I have any respect for now... maxis lost mine with the crap they pulled with SimCity and appear to be doing with The Sims4