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[Maeshone]

It's called deduction. If you can come up with another reason why Bioware would cut parts of the established gameplay system (sustainable abilities and radial menu) rather than enhancing it, I'd love to hear it.  The fact of the matter is it makes game development much, much simpler when you keep the same gameplay system in multiplayer and single player.  And they have.  Therefore, the gameplay system was designed to accommodate multiplayer.  Multiplayer isn't the sole reason for all of the gameplay design decisions, but it is something that needed to be taken into consideration every step of the way.

 

And I never said "dumbed down."  That's an opinion, which is not the point I'm trying to make.

To let the series change in a way that they find more fun/intuitive/challenging?

 

Kinda like how Final Fantasy changes up their combat system between instalments? I mean, say what you like about FFXIII, but I rate it rather high on my top Final Fantasy list solely because the Paradigm Shift system is, IMO, freaking amazing.

 

Letting a series stagnate by not changing up anything in the gameplay is not exactly a great choice, as people will just complain about the game being exactly the same. Better to try and innovate and refine your gameplay. And I'm of the opinion that all the changes made to combat so far are improvements. Limited abilities force you to think about what to choose before starting an engagement. Limited healing means you have to be careful about how much damage you take. 

[HellaciousHutch]

Casey Hudson also said that the ME3 multiplayer wouldnt lock out anything in single player.

 

It locked out an ENDING.

 

You mean it locked out an additional 5 second clip for a single ending that you could get in the first place?

[Rawgrim]

You mean it locked out an additional 5 second clip for a single ending that you could get in the first place?

 

Stll only a 5 sec clip, sure. But it does show your character surviving, after all. That is a big deal.

[Giubba]

You mean it locked out an additional 5 second clip for a single ending that you could get in the first place?

 

And this lasted1 month i think?

Unti they released the first patch

[HellaciousHutch]

Stll only a 5 sec clip, sure. But it does show your character surviving, after all. That is a big deal.

 

Too bad it doesn't even matter, because Shepard won't be showing up in the next trilogy anyway. It was also changed once the expanded endings were released too. lol

[milena87]

And this lasted1 month i think?

Unti they released the first patch

 

Almost 4 months. It was changed with the EC.

[Rawgrim]

Too bad it doesn't even matter, because Shepard won't be showing up in the next trilogy anyway. It was also changed once the expanded endings were released too. lol

 

It matters because it was the final scene in Shepard's story...

 

It was changed later, yes. After it had done damage to people's first playthrough.

[Giubba]

Almost 4 months. It was changed with the EC.

 

No big deal.

[HellaciousHutch]

It matters because it was the final scene in Shepard's story...

 

It was changed later, yes. After it had done damage to people's first playthrough.

 

If it was changed it means it's no longer canon/never happened. Ergo, Shepard is done, and the 'additional ending' (which it isn't, it's a 5 second clip added onto an ending you can already get) never happened. Ergo, some of the things--in fact, the main thing--people are complaining about no longer factor into...anything really, and the notion that multiplayer somehow caused Mass Effect 3's general issues are completely false and misinformed.

[DanishViking]

AMAZING NEWS !!!! cannot wait to try this out on my ps4. 

after 100 of hours of single player gaming, i can just jump into some multiplayer.. 

thats sweet !.

[Rawgrim]

If it was changed it means it's no longer canon/never happened. Ergo, Shepard is done, and the 'additional ending' (which it isn't, it's a 5 second clip added onto an ending you can already get) never happened. Ergo, some of the things--in fact, the main thing--people are complaining about no longer factor into...anything really, and the notion that multiplayer somehow caused Mass Effect 3's general issues are completely false and misinformed.

 

You couldn't get that ending before it got patched. That's the problem. The first playthrough is the most important one, to alot of people, and that one got messed up. Its fixed now though, and I am 99 percent sure there will be no such issues in DA:I at all. This is off topc, though, so over and out

[KaiserShep]

You mean it locked out an additional 5 second clip for a single ending that you could get in the first place?

 

Short clip or not, this sort of thing does sort of warrant caution when we're told that multiplayer is being added to Inquisition. Granted, they [BioWare] have already assured us that it won't affect the single player campaign, so we'll just have to take their word for it, but this is something that's always in the back of my mind. As for the final clip, that was something that mattered to me. Fortunately for myself, I came into the game well after the Extended Cut was released. Any content, big or small, being locked out of single player as a result of not playing multiplayer would annoy me to no end, especially when it's something that can determine whether or not the PC makes it in the end (this may not matter to some, but it certainly matters to me, regardless of what happens with the next game). I don't really expect Bio to make that same mistake again, but I never rule out the possibility.

[wolfsite]

Wonder how long till this thread gets locked since it's De-railed from Dragon Age to Mass Effect........

[Lexxbomb]

...I dread the day we reach "You have died. Would you like to reload? Only $2.99!"

 

*shudders*

 

Well John Riccitiello (former CEO of EA) did say he would like to charge money for reloads in game

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[Elhanan]

Am content with this content, as well as the ME3 finales. While I may never be able to join DA-MP myself, knowing that further gameplay is available for everyone is a good thing, for me at least.

[Lexxbomb]

What growing up? Yeah that's pretty hard this days.

 

Also i'm little surprised that there isn't topic dedicated to a petition for removing MP from the game cause "it's suck resource from SP" or a topic with a poll on how many people deleted their pre order, or even better still no telephone threat to Bioware employer

anyone who threatens a Bioware employer should be arrested at a minimum.

[HellaciousHutch]

There's some quality doomsaying in this thread. Both quality and entertaining. 

[Ianamus]

I believe them when then say it won't affect single player and I'm more apatetic towards it than anything, but It's yet another example of shoehorning micro-transaction based multiplayer into a game that doesn't need it in order to wring as much money out of people as possible.

 

I don't see what the mutiplayer mode could possibly provide that isn't just a watered down version of what we already have in the single player. The ability to play with other people stopped being exciting on it's own about eight years ago when every other game let you do it, and from what I've seen thats literally all this mode adds, other than a cash sink.

 

I almost wish they had made a competetive player-verses player mode instead. At least that would have provided something new.

[KaiserShep]

Wonder how long till this thread gets locked since it's De-railed from Dragon Age to Mass Effect........

 

Considering the subject, Mass Effect is actually fairly relevant.

[HellaciousHutch]

I believe them when then say it won't affect single player and I'm more apatetic towards it than anything, but It's yet another example of shoehorning a micro-tranaction based multiplayer into a game that doesn't need in order to wring as much money out of people as possible.

 

I don't see what the mutiplayer mode could possibly provide that isn't just a watered down version of what we already have in the single player. The ability to play with other people stopped being exciting on it's own about five years ago when every other game let you do it, and from what I've seen thats literally all this mode adds, other than a cash sink.

 

I almost wish they had made a competetive player-verses player mode instead. At least that would have provided something new.

 

This is still playing with other people, as you stated, though, and can be done in many other games already. So you're complaining, then offer a suggestion on how to fix it, but, said suggestion still falls into the category of what your initial complaint is about and why it's a complaint.

 

Also. Finding the ability to play with other people or not exciting is totally personal opinion. I'd say the opposite is true, in fact, considering multiplayer play does expand the longevity of a game by quite a bit (usually). 

[Lexxbomb]

There's some quality doomsaying in this thread. Both quality and entertaining. 

and quite often is born out of passion and the need to vent.

[HellaciousHutch]

and quite often is born out of passion and the need to vent.

 

Not this level of doomsaying though. It sounds like a child's playroom to me, personally. 

[Rawgrim]

Not this level of doomsaying though. It sounds like a child's playroom to me, personally. 

 

A video game IS a toy, after all. Just sayin

[Ianamus]

This is still playing with other people, as you stated, though, and can be done in many other games already. So you're complaining, then offer a suggestion on how to fix it, but, said suggestion still falls into the category of what your initial complaint is about and why it's a complaint.

 

Also. Finding the ability to play with other people or not exciting is totally personal opinion. I'd say the opposite is true, in fact, considering multiplayer play does expand the longevity of a game by quite a bit (usually). 

 

But at least playing against other players in an arena-based mode would be something we can't do in the single player or is Mass Effect 3's identical multiplayer mode. We can already go around killing stuff with a party in single player, and we can already play an identical form of multiplayer in Mass Effect 3. Not only that but this multiplayer mode has fixed characters with less customization and smaller ability sets, and no pause, so it does nothing we can't do in single player, and has less gameplay than single player does.

 

Honestly my real "solution on how to fix it" would be: come up with a new and interesting form of multiplayer that really adds something to your game, or just don't bother adding one at all.

[HellaciousHutch]

A video game IS a toy, after all. Just sayin

 

Not really, no. It's a piece of (entertainment) media, just like movies, music etc. Do you classify movies and music as toys? Though...I suppose...I guess you could, really.