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[ElitePinecone]

Ea=Mp

 

Thank you for your erudite contribution.

[Ibn_Shisha]

I have a very hard time imagining BioWare purposely screwing the other platforms on weekend challenges like that.

 

I say this as a Playstation (primarily) player. Because I clearly recall feeling sad when PS3 missed the first three weekend operations due to something that was outside of BioWare's control (I believe there was either a technical aspect that prevented it until it was fixed or something to do with negotiations with Sony about conducting those events on their platform - I don't recall which it was, only that it was something BioWare had to actively work on to fix for us).

 

And while we couldn't ever get those little gold medallions for completion or participate in those three "lost" challenges (you can look in my N7 HQ link in the PS3 link in my sig... they're the only challenge medals I'm missing), they DID go out of their way to make it right for us by giving us all the three SPECTRE packs the other platforms received as rewards for completing the weekend challenges. That way, those of us there from the beginning did not have to fall behind on unlocking N7 promo weapons - we were even with everybody else.

 

BioWare did not have to do that. But they did.

 

That is one of many reasons why I DO have faith and trust in them.

My concern is partly based in that it may not be by choice.

 

First we heard about 'timed exclusive' content.

 

Then we heard about 'EA EArly Access,' or whatever, and DAI being included.

 

If, Maker forbid, Mark gets called into a meeting tomorrow with the GGM, Andrew Wilson and Phil Spencer...

 

Anyway, don't mind me.  I worry a lot. 

[Paul E Dangerously]

The thing is, I'm starting to see the discussion getting constantly derailed because of it.  So I guess I can ask "What exactly is it that you want to achieve?"  I recognize that you're not a fan of multiplayer.  I recognize that you feel betrayed by BioWare.  I recognize that based on ME3's prerelease and how we dealt with MP integration you've no faith in us since you feel we can't be trusted in this regard.  I recognize that it's mere inclusion represents a lot of what you don't like about BioWare, and AAA games in general.  I recognize that you feel it's completely wasted content that doesn't appeal to you in the slightest.  I recognize that me saying "MP doesn't affect SP' does nothing to assuage your concerns.

 

If that were the only concern, that would be just fine - but now several questionable announcements from the Combat Q&A have been put into greater light thanks to this. The SP is being influenced by MP - as has been announced by the MP FAQ - in terms of combat design. Combat between a purely real-time horde mode and a real-time with pause tactical game should not be that compatible. We've got concerns about the skill limits, the UI, and other major things that just happen to nicely tie into the MP.

 

I think there are a lot of people who can - and will - write off criticism by virtue of "Oh, they just don't like MP, they're grognards who want SP only games". That can't be any further from the truth - I think you'll find a lot of us like MP plenty. The problem lies in the execution and how it influences the SP (and it is), and about that, there are concerns. Just take a gander at the thread below about "The impact of multiplayer upon single player design".

[Reznore57]

It would be nice if there's a chat window in MP?

There wasn't in ME3 MP , well you could use the voice chat ..

[CronoDragoon]

It would be nice if there's a chat window in MP?

There wasn't in ME3 MP , well you could use the voice chat ..

 

Voice chat is probably a given for all. Text chat exists in Battlefield PC but not console, so it might be similar to that.

[Ibn_Shisha]

I wonder if there will be some sort of retrieving objective just like in ME3MP. It would be funny if there was and it consisted of rescuing some nugs and taking them to safety. 

Apparently the mission intro's are given by one of the advisors.  I can picture Leliana giving us this mission. 

 

"These nugs are vital to the Inquisition.  I need playmates for Schmooples, I mean, we need biological specimens of creatures possibly resistant to darkspawn taint."

[realguile]

This board was such a positive place, but this announcement just sucked all the good vibes from this board. God damn shame.

[BioticMarauder]

I hope we get sync kills   Frustrating yes, but it does make the game more exciting.

[nrcrane]

Very good news. Can't wait to try it out.  I'm guessing that the Qunari Infiltrator... I mean Qunari rogue is going to be OP.

 

Makes me want to dust off my ME3 MP and do a few matches. Gonna tell some friends from ME3 MP about this. Think they'll love it.

[Aolbain]

This board was such a positive place, but this announcement just sucked all the good vibes from this board. God damn shame.

 

Welcome to the happy place that is BSN. About two months before the release of DA2 everyone started hating everyone and everything, continuing to do so for a year or two. Same thing happened with ME3, only ten thousand times worse.

[seraphymon]

The reality is the game has the MP mode that is has.  If this makes the game less desirable for you, that's fine.  No one here is able to tell you what features you should or should not find appealing.  This goes for everyone.  Maybe the game's not for you?  Maybe you'll still like it?  Things that won't really be known until release and people get their hands on it.

 

 

The thing is, I'm starting to see the discussion getting constantly derailed because of it.  So I guess I can ask "What exactly is it that you want to achieve?"  I recognize that you're not a fan of multiplayer.  I recognize that you feel betrayed by BioWare.  I recognize that based on ME3's prerelease and how we dealt with MP integration you've no faith in us since you feel we can't be trusted in this regard.  I recognize that it's mere inclusion represents a lot of what you don't like about BioWare, and AAA games in general.  I recognize that you feel it's completely wasted content that doesn't appeal to you in the slightest.  I recognize that me saying "MP doesn't affect SP' does nothing to assuage your concerns.

 

So I'm not sure what more you're hoping to express that you haven't already expressed several times over?  Is it to make sure others know we shouldn't be trusted?  Are you trying to help out other posters by engaging in this discussion further?  I'm not sure what your intentions and goals are by remaining in this thread.

I am guessing is because companies treat their customers as nothing more than ignorant dollar signs. EA has the reputation it does for a reason, good or bad. And not just EA, lots of big name companies do since business is business.  Would DAI have been the same exact game had the multiplayer aspect not been included?  Track records on other games show that  it does even if small. Since resources or money could be spent making the SP even better. Single player franchises dont always need an MP side to it. Then there is the influences MP might have on SP in terms of abilities, UI, etc.

 

Now DA has been the type of game where you can make MP out of it easily. After all 4 companions. It plays just like an MMO on a smaller scale. If people want an MP of DA, I feel it should be its own seperate thing that utilizes the MP aspect to a full potential game and not just tacked on like a leech.  This isn't to say the MP of DAI wont be fun. It looks fun. Might even be a blast to kill a couple hours, but for how long till the novelty wears out? Or perhaps this is an initial test to see about perhaps making a full fledge  DA MP game or godforbid a risk taking MMO?

[DisturbedJim83]

Me 3 had "micro transactions" guess what I easily attained every class,weapon and gear and it never cost me a damn thing.

its slightly OT I know but that's besides the point,the whole point of Micro Transactions was to allow indie devs making F2P games recoup their dev costs,except this is not a F2P game its a fully fledged $60 game so why are they even included at all ? While Bioware Points will not be used for DAI DLC it has not been confirmed or denied as to whether DLC will be free or whether we have to use other monetary means to purchase the DLC.

 

Star Citizen is the only game that I actually have a subscription to( Imperetor level) because the subscribers money is put aside as the budget for all community content such as 10 for the Chairman/Around the Verse shows and the jump point magazine so it has a benefit to the whole Star Citizen Community.

Which begs a question regarding this "platinum currency" Where do funds raised from these micro transactions go ? is it for server costs? is it pumped into more MP only content? is it put into content for everyone including those like me who want nothing to do with MP after being burned so many times before such as free/discounted SP DLC?

 

Surely when they have done something so controversial its not unreasonable to expect an answer as what its going towards that will compensate for this decision to put micro transactions in a full price AAA game.   

[Paul E Dangerously]

its slightly OT I know but that's besides the point,the whole point of Micro Transactions was to allow indie devs making F2P games recoup their dev costs,except this is not a F2P game its a fully fledged $60 game so why are they even included at all ? While Bioware Points will not be used for DAI DLC it has not been confirmed or denied as to whether DLC will be free or whether we have to use other monetary means to purchase the DLC.

 

Because EA wants to make a billion dollars this year from microtransactions and add-on content. Really. http://m.ign.com/art...sales-this-year

[DragonRacer]

My concern is partly based in that it may not be by choice.

 

First we heard about 'timed exclusive' content.

 

Then we heard about 'EA EArly Access,' or whatever, and DAI being included.

 

If, Maker forbid, Mark gets called into a meeting tomorrow with the GGM, Andrew Wilson and Phil Spencer...

 

Anyway, don't mind me.  I worry a lot. 

 

ElitePinecone may have a link more handy than I do, but I seem to recall at E3 at Microsoft's press conference that it was stated they had a timed exclusive release to the first single player DAI DLC.

 

I recall that because a lot of us thought that phrasing meant MP might exist, since they specifically said single player DLC.

 

So, hopefully it is only that one as a bone to the XBox crowd and nothing more. That's my thought, anyhow.

[hoorayforicecream]

I am guessing is because companies treat their customers as nothing more than ignorant dollar signs. EA has the reputation it does for a reason, good or bad. And not just EA, lots of big name companies do since business is business.  Would DAI have been the same exact game had the multiplayer aspect not been included?  Track records on other games show that  it does even if small. Since resources or money could be spent making the SP even better. Single player franchises dont always need an MP side to it. Then there is the influences MP might have on SP in terms of abilities, UI, etc.

 

Now DA has been the type of game where you can make MP out of it easily. After all 4 companions. It plays just like an MMO on a smaller scale. If people want an MP of DA, I feel it should be its own seperate thing that utilizes the MP aspect to a full potential game and not just tacked on like a leech.  This isn't to say the MP of DAI wont be fun. It looks fun. Might even be a blast to kill a couple hours, but for how long till the novelty wears out? Or perhaps this is an initial test to see about perhaps making a full fledge  DA MP game or godforbid a risk taking MMO?

 

Would you actually accept any answer that Allan gave you? Or would you simply dismiss it if they weren't to your liking? I honestly want to know, since these questions seem as loaded as a baked potato with all of the fixings.

[Beerfish]

Would you actually accept any answer that Allan gave you? Or would you simply dismiss it if they weren't to your liking? I honestly want to know, since these questions seem as loaded as a baked potato with all of the fixings.

Don't even try hfic, some of these on going posts are like gerbils on a wheel.

[Gamemako]

Which begs a question regarding this "platinum currency" Where do funds raised from these micro transactions go ? is it for server costs? is it pumped into more MP only content? is it put into content for everyone including those like me who want nothing to do with MP after being burned so many times before such as free/discounted SP DLC?

I'm sure it will go toward more MP content (plus profit, obviously -- they are a business, after all). Server cost is going to be pretty low based on what they were doing with ME3MP, which was matchmaking only with the actual game is hosted locally. Interesting question, though, in the sense of funding SP content similarly. Most SP content would be purchased directly as DLC, which has plenty of negative connotations. It's also more expensive to develop a single-player adventure that gets touched once than MP maps that get played 300 times per player.

[Vortex13]

I do not have any idea at this point.  I don't work directly on the Multiplayer and have only spent a couple of hours in it, myself.

 

 

Well what are you waiting for?! Go put the MP team's feet to the fire and extract their secret plans for upcoming DAMP content!  

 

But seriously, I am absolutely ecstatic about the MP announcement, and I can't thank all of the developers at BioWare enough for making an already awesome game even better; in fact, I have two close gaming friends that are going to be pre-ordering DA:I because of this reveal; so there is going to be at least two new fans for your franchise! 

 

The only thing that would make this game even better is if we can get playable Golems, Sylvans, Werewolves, Awakened, Mabari, etc. into MP along side the other human, dwarf, elf, and quanari classes. Yeah, its a rather odd request, but I'm weird like that.