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#2251
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For what purpose? to see if it's valid? Not being snarky geninunely curious.

 

I was curious as to why they didn't enjoy it.  It's hard to empathize with someone if you don't understand why their issues with it.



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For what purpose? to see if it's valid? Not being snarky geninunely curious.


There are several reasons one could dislike multiplayer, and if someone has decided to dislike multiplayer because of bad experiences, then that's a damn shame and it's worth encouraging them to try again, this time with a BSN group already established for DAMP.

On the other hand, if they simply don't like gaming with others, or require a story for them to be interested, then that's totally cool.
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I was curious as to why they didn't enjoy it.  It's hard to empathize with someone if you don't understand why their issues with it.

 

Ah fair enough.

 

People have different reasons for disliking something. For multiplayer there are indeed multiple reasons, and if someone has decided to dislike multiplayer because of bad experiences, then that's a damn shame and it's worth encouraging them to try again, this time with a BSN group already established for DAMP.

On the other hand, if they simply don't like gaming with others, or require a story for them to be interested, then that's totally cool.

 

Ah I guess I was feeling defensive cause frankly I'm sick of the "OMG you don't like MP you antisocial loner." remarks. I guess I got defensive.

 

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Is it fair to say your opposition to multiplayer is the forced interaction with other people?

My problem is that the Asshats breed like rabbits and the none asshats are few and far between on the whole MP lobbies are just toxic cesspools where the odd normal player is drowned out by the mindless masses.When you have to spend you day at work as I do dealing with the general stupidity and idiocy of the masses the last thing I want when I get home is have to listen to more of the same nonsense online so given the option to not install MP at all would be much better then having to tolerate its existence on my hard drive because enough people like it to make it profitable.

 

If other people like it fine YMMV however I see no reason if its as "optional" as claimed why I must install it on my Hard Drive to play a SP game.


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Oh great. Can we not do the "you didn't like the MP community so clearly there's something wrong with you personally." dance? 

 

Yeah, I've been gleefully gloating about the MP announcement because I know I will enjoy it, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with dislking MP and refusing to touch it. I am that way myself with many thinigs, refuse to try them or get involved in them because I just don't want to, and no one should ever question me or give me crap for that particular aspect. Arguing about misanthropy when some people don't want to touch MP is unnecessary and a bit insulting.

 

Ripping apart the more ridiculous and stupid arguments, that's fair game though. :P


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Yeah, I've been gleefully gloating about the MP announcement because I know I will enjoy it, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with dislking MP and refusing to touch it. I am that way myself with many thinigs, refuse to try them or get involved in them because I just don't want to, and no one should ever question me or give me crap for that particular aspect. Arguing about misanthropy when some people don't want to touch MP is unnecessary and a bit insulting.

 

Ripping apart the more ridiculous and stupid arguments, that's fair game though. :P

 

Honestly I may grouse but I'm happy for you MP peeps. I do hope you enjoy yourselves it sounds like the devs put a lot of TLC into the mode :) And yeah agreed.

 

AGREED.

 

 

If other people like it fine YMMV however I see no reason if its as "optional" as claimed why I must install it on my Hard Drive to play a SP game.

 

It's part of the game. Much like the dalish elf and other voices for the protags. Just because you don't use them doesn't mean they aren't installed. MP uses SP assets and the two being seperate downloads is a waste of time and bandwidth when you can easily solve the issue by simply not clicking on the MP button.

 

I mean I'm completely on your side in regards to the not playing MP thing. But this is something easily avoided. And yeah it sucks your harddrive space is wasted but it's wasted on other stuff in the SP game you're probably not going to use. The devs aren't going to remove it because it's impractical.

 

There's really no point in getting upset. Its there today, it'll be there tomorrow, it'll be there next year no matter how angry you get.


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There's a bit of a difference between "I don't like MP in general" and "I hate MP communities, they're douchebags, they're asshats," ad nauseam. A response in kind to the latter is not equivalent to an unprovoked assault on the former...

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Honestly I may grouse but I'm happy for you MP peeps. I do hope you enjoy yourselves it sounds like the devs put a lot of TLC into the mode :) And yeah agreed.

 

AGREED.

 

 

It's part of the game. Much like the dalish elf and other voices for the protags. Just because you don't use them doesn't mean they aren't installed. MP uses SP assets and the two being seperate downloads is a waste of time and bandwidth when you can easily solve the issue by simply not clicking on the MP button.

 

I mean I'm completely on your side in regards to the not playing MP thing. But this is something easily avoided. And yeah it sucks your harddrive space is wasted but it's wasted on other stuff in the SP game you're probably not going to use. The devs aren't going to remove it because it's impractical.

 

There's really no point in getting upset. Its there today, it'll be there tomorrow, it'll be there next year no matter how angry you get.

If MP had been an established part of Dragon Age then I'd let it slide without a fuss all the other stuff is an established part of the Franchise they are all either part of the lore or essential to the immersion of the lore MP isn't otherwise they would have come up with something better then the weak "your an agent of the inquisition" sub plot maybe i'd be more accepting of it if more effort had been put into it but as it stands right now its just a blunt way of putting in micro transactions even though I have no intention of using it I'd rather if it where to be included to have an actual purpose besides a thinly veiled store.



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If MP had been an established part of Dragon Age then I'd let it slide without a fuss all the other stuff is an established part of the Franchise they are all either part of the lore or essential to the immersion of the lore MP isn't otherwise they would have come up with something better then the weak "your an agent of the inquisition" sub plot maybe i'd be more accepting of it if more effort had been put into it but as it stands right now its just a blunt way of putting in micro transactions even though I have no intention of using it I'd rather if it where to be included to have an actual purpose besides a thinly veiled store.

 

But it is part of the lore. You send out agents to do your dirty work...those agents are the MP peeps. Apparently they even have banter...

 

I mean it's not the strongest subplot but personally I rather not have it main plot details tied up in multiplayer.

 

But it's EA. I don't know about you but I'd rather the micro transactions be in the MP than the SP. I mean we could be dealing with a dead space 3 scenario here. I don't know about you but I much much prefer this way.

 

It's purpose is a store yeah and also for people who want to play it with friends. It can serve more than one purpose.


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She looked disappointed. I'm sad there's no pvp or main campaign support (bring stuff from multiplayer into single player or main story co-op).



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She looked disappointed. I'm sad there's no pvp or main campaign support (bring stuff from multiplayer into single player or main story co-op).

 

A side co-op campaign would be cool



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But it is part of the lore. You send out agents to do your dirty work...those agents are the MP peeps. Apparently they even have banter...

 

I mean it's not the strongest subplot but personally I rather not have it main plot details tied up in multiplayer.

 

But it's EA. I don't know about you but I'd rather the micro transactions be in the MP than the SP. I mean we could be dealing with a dead space 3 scenario here. I don't know about you but I much much prefer this way.

 

It's purpose is a store yeah and also for people who want to play it with friends. It can serve more than one purpose.

Well tbf I expected something better then this if its true that its been in the works for 2 years the way it is right now has " tacked on for Micro Transactions" written all over it,technical aspects aside its as if they have made no effort to incorporate it into the lore other then this really weak attempt.I'm just sat here thinking "really after 2 years this is the best you can come up with"



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Why are we talking to this guy? As I said before, were going in circles with an ouroboros.

Exactly, and that is why I was so frustrated earlier. Just the same argument over and over with various insults against mp fans thrown in here and there.
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There's a bit of a difference between "I don't like MP in general" and "I hate MP communities, they're douchebags, they're asshats," ad nauseam. A response in kind to the latter is not equivalent to an unprovoked assault on the former...

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I just want to say that I am really happy for those that wanted multiplayer/co-op.  And I am also happy for those of us that didn't - good news all around! B)


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Puddikoma you rock.


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Well tbf I expected something better then this if its true that its been in the works for 2 years the way it is right now has " tacked on for Micro Transactions" written all over it,technical aspects aside its as if they have made no effort to incorporate it into the lore other then this really weak attempt.I'm just sat here thinking "really after 2 years this is the best you can come up with"

 

But if you're not interested in the MP what does it matter? You're not going to play it anyway.

 

edit : And would you really want someone heavily influential on the plot? Cause personally I wouldn't. =/



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It's not true like I said defensive because I personally am really tired of the loner/loser/get some friends remarks when I say no I don't like MP in certain games. And no it's not just on this board.

Wow, that's not cool. If some one said that I apologize.

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Edit: Oh **** it. SCREW YOU FORUM EATING MY POSTS.



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Edit: Oh **** it. SCREW YOU FORUM EATING MY POSTS.

What?

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What?

 

The post you quoted. The forum made it look a double post. So I hide one. And the other one is suddenly gone. YAY.

 

Wow, that's not cool. If some one said that I apologize.

 

Yeah it's stupid on both sides. The "OMG you only play MP? Go play CoD!" people aren't any better. I'm happy I hit the point where as long as they're not negatively influencing one another I don't care. I wasn't like that originally but seriously it's not just worth it. Not over easily ignored extra modes.



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A side co-op campaign would be cool.

 

For me anyway the only way I'd really enjoy a coop like that is if both players were equally the protagonist.

 

Though I'm kind of amused thinking of how that'd work with stuff like romances and dialogue choices and decisions XD maybe there could be a duel mini game everytime you butt heads. It'd probably be a programming nightmare though.



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The post you quoted. The forum made it look a double post. So I hide one. And the other one is suddenly gone. YAY.
 

 
Yeah it's stupid on both sides. The "OMG you only play MP? Go play CoD!" people aren't any better. I'm happy I hit the point where as long as they're not negatively influencing one another I don't care. I wasn't like that originally but seriously it's not just worth it. Not over easily ignored extra modes.

Yeah, I understand. I actually used to feel that way myself then a friend convinced me to play Borderlands with him and I just had so much fun I lmao. I have been a fan of co-op ever since I still don't care much for PvP but that's a different beast altogether.
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Re: Ryzaki's two eaten posts (or what I can remember of them)  ^_^: The repetition isn't really as pertinent as the content. Like I said, there's a difference in how you say it. One way could be as insulting to MP folk as "MP haters are anti-social loners" is to you.

Either way, I don't really think a few insults back and forth are a big deal, but that's just me. I'm not really a big MP person for most games either so the "anti-social loner" label could be directed at me too. I just happen to be willing to give this one a try. If people want to say that about me, or that for "supporting MP" I'm part of the douchetoxicbunnyhat crowd, well.

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I don't really care.


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