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[Vinitchz]

My thoughts on multiplayer : Friendly fire, maker's breath, friendly fire everywhere  

   

[Ryzaki]

Yeah, I understand. I actually used to feel that way myself then a friend convinced me to play Borderlands with him and I just had so much fun I lmao. I have been a fan of co-op ever since I still don't care much for PvP but that's a different beast altogether.

 

I tried out SWTOR for the class stories, tried some PVP after I had finished my story so I was a fresh lvl 50 in a WZ (got really badly insulted and I mean sheesh I didn't touch the PVP for six months after that it was just so unnecessary), meet some really cool people when I was pvping  after that (I decided to do lowbie in hopes people were less likely to be jerkwads. I got lucky I think) and started really enjoying myself. But that took time and I'm perfectly understanding of why some people are just at the no stage when it comes to MP. It doesn't take much to ruin the experience sadly =/

 

I love PVP though. It's fun when you're not dealing with sore losers and douchecanoes that don't get that some people are new to the game.

 

Re: Ryzaki's two eaten posts (or what I can remember of them)  : The repetition isn't really as pertinent as the content. Like I said, there's a difference in how you say it. One way could be as insulting to MP folk as "MP haters are anti-social loners" is to you.

Either way, I don't really think a few insults back and forth are a big deal, but that's just me. I'm not really a big MP person for most games either so the "anti-social loner" label could be directed at me too. I just happen to be willing to give this one a try. If people want to say that about me, or that for "supporting MP" I'm part of the douchetoxicbunnyhat crowd, well.

*snip*

I don't really care.

 

XD oh I agree it wasn't the politiest way of saying it and yeah put that way I can see why people are so annoyed.

 

Generally I'm fine with it. It can be a bit amusing at times. Nothing wrong at all with giving it a try but toxic bunny hat? :3

 

I should start taking that approach to the loner remarks I know XD

[Vinitchz]

There's a bit of a difference between "I don't like MP in general" and "I hate MP communities, they're douchebags, they're asshats," ad nauseam. A response in kind to the latter is not equivalent to an unprovoked assault on the former...

Sadly most Multiplayer communities are like that, at least the ones that I tried )= but I'll give a chance to this one

[DisturbedJim83]

But if you're not interested in the MP what does it matter? You're not going to play it anyway.

 

edit : And would you really want someone heavily influential on the plot? Cause personally I wouldn't. =/

not on the plot no,however I'd expect something more substantial then this for 2 years of "work"............right now its lacks substance,if they are trying to convince people this is more then a blunt attempt to nickel&dime the audience they need to do way better. 

[The Night Haunter]

not on the plot no,however I'd expect something more substantial then this for 2 years of "work"............right now its lacks substance,if they are trying to convince people this is more then a blunt attempt to nickel&dime the audience they need to do way better. 

Considering most people seem excited by it I'd think your post would be more accurate is you didn't try and pretend everyone hates DAMP.

 

I get it, you hate MP. Congrats. Harping on about how much you hate it isn't going to make it go away. It isn't going to convince Bioware not to add MP to future titles. It also isn't helping you get over it. Constantly complaining about something is only going to keep it fresh in your mind and continue to make you irritated. DAMP is probably going to do well, it is completely optional, completely free, and fairly similar to ME3MP, which was pretty successful. I would be terribly surprised if DAMP didn't do well. So your best bet is to try ignoring it, otherwise all your going to do is irritate yourself.

[Ryzaki]

not on the plot no,however I'd expect something more substantial then this for 2 years of "work"............right now its lacks substance,if they are trying to convince people this is more then a blunt attempt to nickel&dime the audience they need to do way better. 

 

But you're not going to use it, it's probably going to be massively successfully. All you're doing is stressing yourself out on something that you can't change. Just ignore it.

 

If the MP had a negative effect on the SP I could get the anger but we have to wait and see to verify that so I don't see the point in being this negative towards it. Let the MP player shave their fun and you have yours. There's no reason we can't all enjoy the game.

[The Night Haunter]

But you're not going to use it, it's probably going to be massively successfully. All you're doing is stressing yourself out on something that you can't change. Just ignore it.

 

If the MP had a negative effect on the SP I could get the anger but we have to wait and see to verify that so I don't see the point in being this negative towards it. Let the MP player shave their fun and you have yours. There's no reason we can't all enjoy the game.

From Big Bang Theory:

"I had to leave. They were having fun wrong."

[nrcrane]

My problem is that the Asshats breed like rabbits and the none asshats are few and far between on the whole MP lobbies are just toxic cesspools where the odd normal player is drowned out by the mindless masses.When you have to spend you day at work as I do dealing with the general stupidity and idiocy of the masses the last thing I want when I get home is have to listen to more of the same nonsense online so given the option to not install MP at all would be much better then having to tolerate its existence on my hard drive because enough people like it to make it profitable.

 

If other people like it fine YMMV however I see no reason if its as "optional" as claimed why I must install it on my Hard Drive to play a SP game.

You must have the worst luck with the MP lobbies. I've only had 1 in ME3 multiplayer where the other guys were rude.  I'm wondering if you might just be prone to exaggerations just a little bit?

[Roamingmachine]

I'm happy for those who wanted this. As it has microtransactions it is on my blacklist. So yeah. GG EA.

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Question for the devs: If I delete the multiplayer assets to save Harddisk space will my game still run?

[Maria Caliban]

You won't be able to delete multiplayer assets without deleting single player assets. They are not separate things.

[Burricho]

Will people who pay to get that extra edge online?

·         First and foremost, our goal is to make a fun dungeon-crawling experience that you can play with your friends. There will be no pay walls in Dragon Age multiplayer. Everything is accessible with gold coins. You can use premium currency, but you don’t have to.

From the FAQ. It still doesn't answer the question...

[Fredward]

I reeeaaaaallllllyyyyy don't get the multiplayer antipathy. It's like its mere existence is a bad thing for some.

[ElitePinecone]

 

Will people who pay to get that extra edge online?

·         First and foremost, our goal is to make a fun dungeon-crawling experience that you can play with your friends. There will be no pay walls in Dragon Age multiplayer. Everything is accessible with gold coins. You can use premium currency, but you don’t have to.

From the FAQ. It still doesn't answer the question...

 

 

I feel like you're searching for reasons to be outraged here.

 

Everything in the game is accessible via gold. Winning matches gets you gold, and you can use that gold to buy item packs. Since item allocation is random, someone using gold to buy a chest has as much chance to get rare or special stuff as someone using platinum currency. 

 

If someone used $100 of platinum to buy chests, is it possible they'll end up with lots of good items? Sure. But the same thing could be achieved by playing the game normally and saving up gold to buy the same packs. Buying chests with real money, moreover, is not a guarantee of actually getting anything.

 

The game is completely playable using lower-tier items. If someone is "getting ahead" with better gear, it's in a game mode that is already co-operative, and that already relies more on teamwork and cross-class combinations than any one player's individual effort.

[Eelectrica]

You won't be able to delete multiplayer assets without deleting single player assets. They are not separate things.

But, but, but I thought they said the two wouldn't interfere. I want my own special textures and polygons dammit.

 

PS

Spoiler

I'm kidding. Of course they're going to share art and sound resources

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

You won't be able to delete multiplayer assets without deleting single player assets. They are not separate things.

 

The maps and characters would be separate, though you do make me doubtful if it's much space. Then again, even each new multiplayer "dlc" for ME3 was several gbs.

[Deflagratio]

This sounds like a generalized concern that would have existed regardless of multiplayer's inclusion.  DA2's combat was deliberately changed to that way, to the plus for some and to the minus for others.

That said, I still feel like an MP mode could exist with DAO's combat style.  We just didn't go with DAO's combat style.

 

Doesn't an MP mode exist already with DAO's combat style? I think it's called Nearly Every MMORPG Ever Created II: Revenge of the Hotbar. (I prefered the original though, Requiem of the Cooldown Ability.)

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

I reeeaaaaallllllyyyyy don't get the multiplayer antipathy. It's like its mere existence is a bad thing for some.

I admit i initially hated the idea but after the additional articles came out (Gameinformer, Destructoid and so on) .....well call me a convert, even so DAMP is still a terrible abbreviation

 

 

 

as for micro transactions, i have yet to meet a EA game that forces me to do it, hell the only time ive used them is in DS3 but thats because ive spent more time with the crafting bench than with the actual game (i have 200+ weapon blueprints )

[SofaJockey]

I'm not allergic to MP just some of the degenerates that play it, I can count on 1 hand the number of people i have met that are not total douchebags or repeatably yap on about their "prestige level" or some special camo/weapon they got for getting to that prestige level in all the thousands of MP lobbies I have been in over the years, most FPS lobbies are full of campers most Air/Space Combat and racing lobbies are full of Rammers or other "no skillers".given a choice between that and said dev time required to make MP fuctional being allocated to something more useful like bug fixing or additional SP content,MP loses everytime  

 

After 800 hours in ME3 MP playing only with random players I'd say the outright douchebags accounted for about 5% of players, the vast majority tried their best and were often awesome.

 

I'm going to expect that the fantasy RPG setting will also attract a slightly different audience to the pew-pew, PvP troll-fest games that may give MP some its reputation.

 

I have to say I find the arguments about not allowing MP installation to taint or clutter anyones drives to quite preposterous.

I am delighted that BioWare have confirmed that there will be a single installation for simplicity and practicality.

[Fredward]

even so DAMP is still a terrible abbreviation

 

I enjoy the double entendre.

[SofaJockey]

Those that really must play MP can then install it and let those of us that want nothing to do with this festering boil of a tack on not be forced to install it unless my not wanting this waste of code anywhere near my hard drive harms them in some way,if its as optional as some claim then why is it a mandatory install ?

 

This is an unreasonable and irrational expectation.

Continuing to argue the point is also somewhat pointless as it's not going to change, so what purpose does it serve?

 

If you consider what looks to be an awesome MP to be a 'festering boil of a tack on', that suggests you are either not reading

the information shared or have such a set opinion that nothing will dissuade you.

 

In which case a rational discussion will never satisfy you. Sadly that only leaves the notion that

if it troubles you so much then you have the choice to buy or not buy the game.

[clone wars]

hay bioware I got a ?  why put m.p in dragon age  now