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[The Flying Grey Warden]

Nurgle is none of those things. 

 

Don't be jelly cause he more pretty then slaneesh.

 

Besides, we all know that the true god is Malal. 

[KainD]

They are worse. Fem vampires (im looking at u Serana) are hot. Blood mages are not.

 

Depends, blood magic doesn't relate to beauty. 

[Sir DeLoria]

yeah more than 1000 years Orlais and Orlais Chantry dream about it and try to do so, and there is Orlais now
 
and Tamasran of Qunari for more than 400 years just send their own population to the graves and have huge rebellion of Tal-Vashot armies who fight agains Qunari 

Believe me, if the Qunari really wanted to destroy Tevinter they could with ease, the Qunari are by far the most powerful force in Thedas. They're not interested however, they just want Seheron (for now) and have kept defending it for ages now. Every attempt of the "mighty" Tevinter Imperium to reclaim it has failed, miserably.

Orlais is not united enough for war with Tevinter.

[KainD]

Don't be jelly cause he more pretty then slaneesh.

 

Besides, we all know that the true god is Malal. 

 

Nah, Slaanesh grows stronger every day and will one day will defeat the other chaos Gods and be the one and only God. 

[dragonflight288]

The nevarran accord was signed for show off then?

 

No, it was signed as a compromise. The mages were allowed to separate themselves from society, to form their own society within Circles, where they could freely study magic as they chose, watched over by the templars and a council of their own elder magi. 

 

The History of the Circle Codex says this. It also says that the Circle's are supposed to be separate from the Chantry. 

 

The Nevarran Accord was laid down so the mages would not be killed by the Divine because the were peacefully protesting. They were to be watched, but they were to be free to study magic and live as they chose within the confines of the Circle according to the History of the Circle Codex, and mundanes would be kept safe from the mages who went bad, and the mages would be kept safe from an overzealous populace. 

 

The spirit of the Nevarran Accord was gone long before it was dissolved though. 

[Sir DeLoria]

Depends, blood magic doesn't relate to beauty.

It ends up with you being turned into a blob so yeah, it does.

[Medhia_Nox]

@DeLoria:  Think about all the cleaning up you'd have to do as the Qunari.... because of Tevinter and the elven empire before it... Thedas is a Veil torn sh-thole.

 

I'd love the Breach to actually have happened as a sort of "Climate Change" event because of magic use in Thedas.

[KainD]

The mages were allowed to separate themselves from society, to form their own society within Circles, where they could freely study magic as they chose.

 

Lolol? 

[Asdrubael Vect]

You don't seem to understand how the Chantry works. Everywhere outside of Tevinter looks to the Chantry based in Orlais. The White/Orlesian/Andrastian Chantry are the same entity. Only Tevinter is different.

Especially Nevarra, yeah   

 

you do not understand that faith in Maker and many kingdoms was before Orlais Chanty and Templars...Chantry in Nevarra, Tevinter, Anderfels is different and do not connected with Orlais and their Divine

 

concept of Divine was Orlais Chantry idea, Teviners have their own because of sh*t what Orlais do and they make there own to make their Chantry stronger

[KainD]

It ends up with you being turned into a blob so yeah, it does.

 

How so? 

[Darkly Tranquil]

Beyond that, Antiva doesn't have a military to oppose them, Orlais could win that entire nation through the purchasing of the crows and promising the merchant warlords rich trade.

The way the Crows are described, they seem, in spite of their mercenary ways, to have a proudly Antivan streak; even Zevran is inordinately proud of his Antivan heritage. Given that the Crows are what Antiva has instead of a real military, and given their strong Antivan identity, they may not be so easily bought as you think. Doesn't a codex say somewhere that no-one dares attack Antiva because the ruler of the attacking country would be dead with a matter of weeks if they tried? Presumably if it were as simple as buying the Crows off, someone would have done so by now.

[Sir DeLoria]

How so?

Orsino?

[Medhia_Nox]

@KainD:  SO... you're saying mages in the Circles couldn't study insanely violent spells that directly assisted in their ability to bully the rest of Thedas? 

 

"Why" the Chantry let any mage study violent spells boggles the mind.

 

Loyalists alone should have been able to study combat magic.

 

That's not said as a supporter of the Chantry - that's said as someone thinking about how best to control a dangerous populous.

[dragonflight288]

Lolol? 

 

It's right there in the codex. It also says they would be watched by the templars and a council of senior magi, so obviously there would be some regulation on the type of magic they could study. 

 

Before that, mages were pretty much nothing but glorified janitors to the Chantry. Lighting the braziers, cleaning the rafters, and dusting the chantry halls were pretty much all they were allowed to use their magic for. 

 

Taken in context, they wanted to freely study and practice magic, and what they were allowed to do before the Circle system rose was very limited. 

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Nah, Slaanesh grows stronger every day and will one day will defeat the other chaos Gods and be the one and only God. 

 

And malal grows with the power of his former brethren, using that power to cut a bloody path through the worshipers of chaos. When slaanesh becomes all powerful, a son of malice shall bring his reign crashing down upon it, as is the nature of chaos.

[KainD]

Orsino?

 

Orsino just did something very stupid. Probably didn't even study blood magic enough. 

[Asdrubael Vect]

Orsino just did something very stupid. Probably didn't even study blood magic enough. 

he just does not have a choice and all his beloved aprentices was killed so he wanted to kill more Templars to avenge them

 

actually devs said that they do this because they think that they need another boss battle

[dragonflight288]

@KainD:  SO... you're saying mages in the Circles couldn't study insanely violent spells that directly assisted in their ability to bully the rest of Thedas? 

 

"Why" the Chantry let any mage study violent spells boggles the mind.

 

Loyalists alone should have been able to study combat magic.

 

That's not said as a supporter of the Chantry - that's said as someone thinking about how best to control a dangerous populous.

 

Good luck figuring out which apprentice will belong to which fraternity. The fraternities of the enchanters codex says that only after a mage becomes an Enchanter, that is, once they take on an apprentice, are they actually allowed to join themselves with a fraternity. Origins shows my mage is being told about them, and isn't considered an enchanter despite passing the Harrowing simply because he hadn't taken on a student yet. 

 

If you want any mage to pass their Harrowing, you have to teach them to combat demons. If you choose only to allow loyalists to learn magic, you are essentially saying you want to let mages be possessed by limiting their capacity to defend themselves. That or simply kill them, which is not a moral stance to take. 

[KainD]

@KainD:  SO... you're saying mages in the Circles couldn't study insanely violent spells that directly assisted in their ability to bully the rest of Thedas? 

 

"Why" the Chantry let any mage study violent spells boggles the mind.

 

Loyalists alone should have been able to study combat magic.

 

That's not said as a supporter of the Chantry - that's said as someone thinking about how best to control a dangerous populous.

 

Because chantry uses them as military assets vs Qunari and Darkspawn. Other than that, circle mages still suck in combat because they have no real experience, they don't even study magic as a weapon, more like just expanding on commanding the elements and then they use it offensively. 

[KainD]

he just does not have a choice and all his beloved aprentices was killed so he wanted to kill more Templars to avenge them

 

actually devs said that they do this because they think that they need another boss battle

 

This, Orsino could do way more damage in his normal form to the templars, specially with said blood magic. 

[Darkly Tranquil]

Orsino just did something very stupid. Probably didn't even study blood magic enough.

Well, right before he goes full retard, Orsino says he has never done blood magic until that moment, so yeah, he probably didn't study enough. Then again, he successfully became a Harvester on the first try, so maybe he's just a fast learner.

[Medhia_Nox]

@dragonflight288:  I would actually teach mages how to manipulate the Fade to create weapons - and whatever else - to combat demons.  Not keep it some arcane secret.  Another stupid thing that boggles the mind. 

 

The weaponry Valor has isn't "magic" - it's "Fade thought" - in fact, Asunder gave me the distinct impression that "magic" in the Fade isn't magic... it's "the belief you're doing magic". 

 

So no, mages can be taught to fight demons without being taught how to bully mundanes.

[KainD]

And malal grows with the power of his former brethren, using that power to cut a bloody path through the worshipers of chaos. When slaanesh becomes all powerful, a son of malice shall bring his reign crashing down upon it, as is the nature of chaos.

 

Slaanesh worshipers will not bow to any other God, once you have felt the ecstasy there is no going back, and you don't need anyone else.  

[dragonflight288]

Because chantry uses them as military assets vs Qunari and Darkspawn. Other than that, circle mages still suck in combat because they have no real experience, they don't even study magic as a weapon, more like just expanding on commanding the elements and then they use it offensively. 

 

But then only let 7 of them go to Ostagar. 

 

 

Well, right before he goes full retard, Orsino says he has never done blood magic until that moment, so yeah, he probably didn't study enough. Then again, he successfully became a Harvester on the first try, so maybe he's just a fast learner.

 

Well, a Harvester is a spirit possessing many corpses used to try and make a golem. It's possible he was actually trying to use their blood to power a spell, and ended up possessed in the attempt. 

 

I don't think that sounds very credible though, especially since I only just thought of it off the top of my head like two seconds ago. 

[Asdrubael Vect]

This, Orsino could do way more damage in his normal form to the templars, specially with said blood magic. 

still he was tired, no srly he for more than 10 years deal with so many troubles and opression what would broke many people...expecially then many die and enemies near you