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#1001
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If I remember correctly 99% of mages we fight when siding with Templars are already possessed. Demons can pretty much do all those and them some. Also those fights are off-story like many other fights. The enemies are there for convenience and to make game challenging. if anything Hawke simply faced a few of them before reaching the gallows with the boat. Ironically NONE of the mages in that room with Orsino were blood mages. Guess what, they were in the cutscene. Those mages are not different that the people we fight at night for EXP and loot/gold. Don't confuse gameplay with story.


Guess what in gameplay most mages in the hall survive. But for some reason in cutscene they are all dead. bW needed another boss. They got it.

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As i have said many, many times before that entire circle was corrupt from top to bottom.


Bethany becomes senior enchanter and she is no blood mage. None of the mages in the same room in Orsino were blood mages. I can go on...

The corruption was spread in Kirkwall be it mage or Templar. The difference is Templars as a faction are obligated to stop corruption where as mages who are born that way are not. A person can be evil, and if he is born a mage then he will be an evil mage as he has no decision in the matter. Same cannot be said about Templars as they are a faction.

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Bethany could spend six years in the Circle and never gets corrupted.

Thats different. She was ur painfully sweet sweet sister. Corrupting her is not easy.

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As i have said many, many times before that entire circle was corrupt from top to bottom.

That's why I never send either of my siblings to work in the Gallows. Both the Templars and the Mages were freakin' nuts.



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Bethany becomes senior enchanter and she is no blood mage. None of the mages in the same room in Orsino were blood mages. I can go on...

The corruption was spread in Kirkwall be it mage or Templar. The difference is Templars as a faction are obligated to stop corruption where as mages who are born that way are not. A person can be evil, and if he is born a mage then he will be an evil mage as he has no decision in the matter. Same cannot be said about Templars as they are a faction.

The templars were busy tending meredith's vanity than their duty. I seriously hated meredith for her coup..

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Thats different. She was ur painfully sweet sweet sister. Corrupting her is not easy.


A well mannered and not corrupted apostate? You are joking right? I think all pro-Templar players must kill her or they are a hypocrite.

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Oh and before we forget, in the cutscene where Templars attack and kill/overwhelm the mages no one uses blood mgaic. They rather die than to consult demons.

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A well mannered and not corrupted apostate? You are joking right? I think all pro-Templar players must kill her or they are a hypocrite.

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A well mannered and not corrupted apostate? You are joking right? I think all pro-Templar players must kill her or they are a hypocrite.

I was pro templar b4 meredith's coup. Thats not hypocrisy. I said b4 i hate coups.

And u forgot gorgeous.

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Oh and before we forget, in the cutscene where Templars attack and kill/overwhelm the mages no one uses blood mgaic. They rather die than to consult demons.

.....orsino.....

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I was pro templar b4 meredith's coup. Thats not hypocrisy. I said b4 i hate coups.
And u forgot gorgeous.


I agree that to some extent it was pro-meredith than pro templar, but still killing all mages but sparing her is somewhat hypocrisy. I never send any sibling to that wretched gallows. God bless Anders and greywardens.

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.....orsino.....


aka one mage.

Why shouldn't we annul the Templars because of Meredith?

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Bethany becomes senior enchanter

 

She was a senior magi, she wasn't an Enchanter however.



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That's why I never send either of my siblings to work in the Gallows. Both the Templars and the Mages were freakin' nuts.

 

Ain't that the truth, Meredith gets handed the most insane circle in the world, in the most insane city in the world and we are supposed to be surprised she snaps?



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I agree that to some extent it was pro-meredith than pro templar, but still killing all mages but sparing her is somewhat hypocrisy. I never send any sibling to that wretched gallows. God bless Anders and greywardens.

Well if they dont become gw, they will survive for more than 30 years i think. GWs die early.

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Ain't that the truth, Meredith gets handed the most insane circle in the world, in the most insane city in the world and we are supposed to be surprised she snaps?

Shes also handed with the most insane lyrium in thedas.

Still her coup will never be forgiven.

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I was pro templar b4 meredith's coup. Thats not hypocrisy. I said b4 i hate coups.And u forgot gorgeous.

Being pro mage or templar doesnt you always agree with that group just the broad message
Ex: as pro templar mages must controlled and watched but humanely. Which most templars do its just the game depictions show the worst parts of both sides

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Well if they dont become gw, they will survive for more than 30 years i think. GWs die early.

 

They tend to.

 

The Taint except in one confirmed case (through the usage of heavy blood magic) has always been a death sentence.



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aka one mage.

Why shouldn't we annul the Templars because of Meredith?


Remember grace, u can save that woman's life. But then she turned on u. And remember tgat all of her accomplices were blood mages. Whatever sympathy i had for the mages ended right there.

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Ain't that the truth, Meredith gets handed the most insane circle in the world, in the most insane city in the world and we are supposed to be surprised she snaps?

 

I am surprised she would buy a pagan-ass idol.

 

Smells like heresy.



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Being pro mage or templar doesnt you always agree with that group just the broad message
Ex: as pro templar mages must controlled and watched but humanely. Which most templars do its just the game depictions show the worst parts of both sides

I like the chantry, templars. But..... Alrik, et al set up a bad image.

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Remember grace, u can save that woman's life. But then she turned on u. And remember tgat all of her accomplices were blood mages. Whatever sympathy i had for the mages ended right there.

grace and thrasks group was crazy but kirkwall was a loonybin to start with. Extreme stresses break anyone. Not all are batty

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I am surprised she would buy a pagan-ass idol.

Smells like heresy.


Maybe this is what happened:
*sees idol for sale*

* own eyes glow*

*voices in mind say, " this is the maker's gift, take it*

*proceeds to buy it*


Sidenote: theres a book in DA A called "Lyrium: The voice of the Maker"

#1024
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grace and thrasks group was crazy but kirkwall was a loonybin to start with. Extreme stresses break anyone. Not all are batty

Thank GOD that people in the real world have some sort of gratitude for their rescuers. Jeez....
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He wasn't the only one, just saying. 

 

It's not illegal to study the theory of Bloodmagic for various reasons some times a mage can come up with a counter messieurs  like the item in DA:O or to created Grey Warden etc.

 

which he would never have if the blight hadn't happened and the blight also made sure what happened in Kirkwall and what eventually lead to the Templar mage war. Also if the blight wasn't happening then the Templars would have gotten reinforcements to take down the army the pride demon was making, what happened in Ferelden wasn't exactly your every days run of the mill circle business. Bloodmages are most of time bad, but more because of their personality rather then bloodmagic after all Bloodmagic doesn't have a mind of it's own it's the people who wield the bloodmagic who does bad things not the bloodmagic itself.

 

We have had two games where the circumstances in the circle was far from normal Ferelden had the blight, Kirkwall is the worst and also the one of the biggested circle in all of Thedas with two very incompetent leaders. So easy to forget stuff like that it seems.

 

Grey Wardens mostly keep to themselves when there isn't a blight also in Ferelden every faction literally couldn't deliver armies because they had various problems. besides when the blight happens Gray Wardens will do anything, because the blight will destroy everything as Meredith she took over a city, sent death squads to kill people, tried to turn the guard into templars and call annulment for the wrong reasons, she broke a lot of rules as her duty as a templar, if she had survived the events of Kirkwall she would either be killed off or imprisoned.

 

No offence but your DA lore knowledge is lacking here, Seeker aren't Templars even though they occasionally hunt mages their main mission is to keep the templars in line it's the reason why Templars don't like Seekers.

 

I doesn't matter as i said to my point...

Eee only it that blood magic is banned by the chantry even simple knowing blood magic and by that being blood mage is death sentence jowan is best example...

Only accepted form are phylacteries nothing more.

 

Those are excuses pro-mages love make them up as i said we have colosal numbers of disasters caused by mages and for every case pro-mages have excuse if we want play in 1000 excuses im out.. and no fact that circles are corrupted and pretty much it can lead to another tragedy and often leads jowan , uldred and many blood mages in circles same for kirkwall... And uldred wanted to overthrow chantry so he could do his banned research so it would go this way...  

 

So i guess blight created uldred and make those mages blood mages ups or perhaps it was rain yes it was rain everyone is god fault!

 

No most wardens didn't liked that the warden and alistair broke neutrality rule so well... same here...

So what? That is what templars do hunt mages and protect normal peoples from them if peoples help criminals they become criminals it is simple...

And no she didn't tried turn guards into templars she wanted help from them with the crisis read blood mages invasion.

Not rly annulment was right kirkwall circle was full of blood mages including FE.

 

You mean codex that don't know much about seekers because from what i renember seekser went with templars to hunt down mages and well templars weren't very scared of them in dots.