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#1201
TheKomandorShepard

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I think Gaider said they can't be priests. Elvish racism is just too virulent.

Does it make sense? No.

But when has racism ever made sense?

I think he said that they can be priests on the technical level but racial issues often make it problem.



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Not rly selfih or altruistic in matter of demons doesn't matter because demon can possess you in both cases what does matter are your weak points and willpower morality doesn't matter in that case.I doubt that as i said tevinter mages are more than egar use and deal with demons even just to gain power over another mage to get position pretty much i can see a lot abomnations...


Maybe Tevinter IS full of abominations, but they do it right and don't lose control? There was another state full of willing abominations that did fine, Rivain seers I think.

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But when has racism ever made sense?


Well for example when you are an elf, and interbreeding leads to your race going extinct, so you segregate yourself from other species.

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Maybe Tevinter IS full of abominations, but they do it right and don't lose control? There was another state full of willing abominations that did fine, Rivain seers I think.

Yes right abomnations... pretty much i can already see disaster on disaster in rivain.Good thing that seekers did little cleaing there so order at least in some way restored.



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I think Gaider said they can't be priests. Elvish racism is just too virulent.Does it make sense? No.But when has racism ever made sense?

if its so virulent how did a dwarf become a brother, granted he's a rarity? They can be templars but its rare so its wide spread but not soo damaging

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Yes right abomnations... pretty much i can already see disaster on disaster in rivain.


You could see it, but its actually not the case.

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You could see it, but its actually not the case.

Yes of course abomnations are such harmless and benevolent creautres last abomnation we see blow up church and set kirkwall on fire (and that was spirit) heh they even see that as nautral diasters so well...



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Yes right abomnations... pretty much i can already see disaster on disaster in rivain.Good thing that seekers did little cleaing there so order at least in some way restored.

rivianis practice a form of possesion similar to wynnes. Of diasters happen as often as you claim there would be constant exalted marches

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Yes of course abomnations are such harmless and benevolent creautres last abomnation we see blow up church and set kirkwall on fire (and that was spirit) heh they even see that as nautral diasters so well...


No one is a harmless being, everyone acts differently. Besides, you know I support Anders/Justice actions.

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rivianis practice a form of possesion similar to wynnes. Of diasters happen as often as you claim there would be constant exalted marches

Chantry didn't know what going on in their circles in rivain so well...

And wynne went on rampage once not to mention anders that twisted justice just because his hatred.

 

 

No one is a harmless being, everyone acts differently. Besides, you know I support Anders/Justice actions.

 

Yes let's compare nuclear bomb to knife because both can inflict damage. :whistle:

 

You support actions of crazy possessed dude well that would explain a lot...


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Yes let's compare nuclear bomb to knife because both can inflict damage. :whistle:

You support actions of crazy possessed dude well that would explain a lot...


I don't care about numbers, only principles, so yeah, will totally compare the two.

I don't consider him crazy, only a hypocrite.

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Chantry didn't know what going on in their circles in rivain so well...And wynne went on rampage once not to mention anders that twisted justice just because his hatred.   Yes let's compare nuclear bomb to knife because both can inflict damage. :whistle: You support actions of crazy possessed dude well that would explain a lot...

rivian's a cultrual meltin pot full of various traditions as well as having a tribal socialism so the chantry allowed seers to so extent. And very few honestly agree anders was right about what did maybe the message but not the killing of innocents.

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rivianis practice a form of possesion similar to wynnes. Of diasters happen as often as you claim there would be constant exalted marches

Pretty much.

 

 

Chantry didn't know what going on in their circles in rivain so well...

And wynne went on rampage once not to mention anders that twisted justice just because his hatred.

Not surprising she wanted to protect her son, good parents tend to do that.



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I don't care about numbers, only principles, so yeah, will totally compare the two.

I don't consider him crazy, only a hypocrite.

Well thanks for that those who rule this world and thedas care about numbers because everyone now would have machine gun and world would burn because you can kill with pencil pencil.

 

Yeah...

 

 

rivian's a cultrual meltin pot full of various traditions as well as having a tribal socialism so the chantry allowed seers to so extent. And very few honestly agree anders was right about what did maybe the message but not the killing of innocents.

Probably because either seers aren't close to their cities smiliar to dalish so most templars don't care about them or either chantry didn't have idea what is going on there as i said they didn't know about circle in rivain and when they discovered the truth they crushed them.

 

 

Not surprising she wanted to protect her son, good parents tend to do that.

Fine and dandy but that wynne was good parent isn't in my opinion (as well most peoples) good consolation that she would for example burn city because she was good parent.



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We know much too little about Rivain to use it to make any points about mages of any kind.



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We know much too little about Rivain to use it to make any points about mages of any kind.

which is why im suprised we are talking about them

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TheKomandorShepard

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We know much too little about Rivain to use it to make any points about mages of any kind.

Well know quite a lot at least in matter of magic there in fact those were one of first things we knew about rivain.



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Fine and dandy but that wynne was good parent isn't in my opinion (as well most peoples) good consolation that she would for example burn city because she was good parent.

All I said she was a good parent.

 

 

We know much too little about Rivain to use it to make any points about mages of any kind.

They don't believe in Andraste like the the rest of Thedas do there are a few followers, but they believe more in their seers who are possed mages.



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TheKomandorShepard

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All I said she was a good parent.

 

Sure i just wanted to note that in case of mage it can cost a lot as many other things.



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Chantry didn't know what going on in their circles in rivain so well...

And wynne went on rampage once not to mention anders that twisted justice just because his hatred.

Their annulment of the Circle there is the straw which caused the Mage-Templar War.

So, smart move Lambert.



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Their annulment of the Circle there is the straw which caused the Mage-Templar War.

So, smart move Lambert.

Considering those mages broke most of circles restrictions and were helping create abomnations it was very in place to crush them.



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Mages are not the sole cause, sure they cause problems but when x amount of non-mages do the equalvelent of damage just using swords you have no issue.

#1223
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Mages are not the sole cause, sure they cause problems but when x amount of non-mages do the equalvelent of damage just using swords you have no issue.

I don't renember non-mage creating blight. :whistle:

Besides you would need gather a lot peoples that would need to convince them to serve you so i doubt that if you wanted destroy world you would do that as non-mage not mention unintentionally.So if you send army somewhere you do that deliberately.



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Sure i just wanted to note that in case of mage it can cost a lot as many other things.

It depends on how powerful the mage is and if they are possed.

 

 

Considering those mages broke most of circles restrictions and were helping create abomnations it was very in place to crush them.

True, but Rivian is not going to agree with decision.



#1225
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The title of this post should be: "The Chantry Does NOT doing good work" :) bah anyway everyone with he's thought and opinions :-)