It depends on how powerful the mage is and if they are possed.
True, but Rivian is not going to agree with decision.
Not necessarily see where connor love to his father lead to just because he wanted help his father.
Well perhaps but they can't do much about that.
if its so virulent how did a dwarf become a brother, granted he's a rarity? They can be templars but its rare so its wide spread but not soo damaging
It's quite possible to hate elves and not care about hating dwarves.
for all we know some non mages helped. We only have the chantry's theory. And cory is no good source since he's warped so be lacking certain details. As for the second rebuttle doesnt matter non-magi are just as dangerous just slowerI don't renember non-mage creating blight. :whistle:Besides you would need gather a lot peoples that would need to convince them to serve you so i doubt that if you wanted destroy world you would do that as non-mage not mention unintentionally.So if you send army somewhere you do that deliberately.
for all we know some non mages helped. We only have the chantry's theory. And cory is no good source since he's warped so be lacking certain details. As for the second rebuttle doesnt matter non-magi are just as dangerous just slower
You're right, SPOILER!!:
Take Fereldan for example they've recruited the circle mages to fight the blight and when they don't have a use for them they lock them back in the tower...
ill be clear im a moderate seeing both sides. But if we use magi to fight wars(blights excluded) then become fearful at there effective rate on x situations it becomes circluar logic (pun intendedYou're right, SPOILER!!: Take Fereldan for example they've recruited the circle mages to fight the blight and when they don't have a use for them they lock them back in the tower...
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for all we know some non mages helped. We only have the chantry's theory. And cory is no good source since he's warped so be lacking certain details. As for the second rebuttle doesnt matter non-magi are just as dangerous just slower
And what? we can have some non-mages and they can't go to the fade and do what magisters did and we have magisters who could did that.And we know that why as i said corry that is a darkspawn and went to the black city and last thing he remember is black city pretty much he confirmed chantry version outside maker part.
And no non-mages aren't just as dangerous as i said knife isn't just as dangerous as nuclear bomb...
Not necessarily see where connor love to his father lead to just because he wanted help his father.
Well perhaps but they can't do much about that.
That's why I said possed.
The chantry doesn't hold much power in Rivian, which means the templars can be in trouble in that country especially after their order left the Chantry.
That's why I said possed.
The chantry doesn't hold much power in Rivian, which means the templars can be in trouble in that country especially after their order left the Chantry.
Well possession was consequence of connor weakness another example can be quentin that went mad because of love.
They can't do much as i said even this circle existed to appease chantry so they rather don't want mess with them.
Its circular logic my friend. We fear dangerous people human nature accept and understand this i do, but if we constantly blame x group and subjugate said group they rebel against group y it starts over, doesnt this tire you instead of blame lets try problem solving... amically
We can blame them as we have a lot reasons to do blame them as well be very concered of amount of damage they cause.I have perefect solution on mages problems but i leave that.
And what? we can have some non-mages and they can't go to the fade and do what magisters did and we have magisters who could did that.And we know that why as i said corry that is a darkspawn and went to the black city and last thing he remember is black city pretty much he confirmed chantry version outside maker part.
Actually he said it was already black on the inside by the time they reached it and he also said they were promised the powers of a god by Dumath or someone pretending to be Dumath.
So the Chantry isn't not 100% on the money with their version, but they were close.
for all we know some non mages helped. We only have the chantry's theory. And cory is no good source since he's warped so be lacking certain details. As for the second rebuttle doesnt matter non-magi are just as dangerous just slower
The only mention of non-mages we have in that event is the hundreds of slaves sacrificed. And Corypheus may be not the best source, but the thing is: there's no alternative version so far and the few hints we have as of today point out that the Chantry's version is the nearest to the truth.
That doesn't mean it is the truth. But if we start to doubt that because the proof doesn't seem enough, we could doubt other things too. Maybe Tevinter never conquered Arlathan; the city just blew itself up and then the survivors sold themselves as slaves because they needed to eat.
*sigh* genocide not the answer just add more problems that weaken a sundered veil and will eventually backfiredWell possession was consequence of connor weakness another example can be quentin that went mad because of love. They can't do much as i said even this circle existed to appease chantry so they rather don't want mess with them. We can blame them as we have a lot reasons to do blame them as well be very concered of amount of damage they cause.I have perefect solution on mages problems but i leave that.
Actually he said it was already black on the inside by the time they reached it and he also said they were promised the powers of a god by Dumath or someone pretending to be Dumath.
So the Chantry isn't not 100% on the money with their version, but they were close.
Yep but important part was confirmed and to be honest whether city was gold , black or pink hardly matters.
*sigh* genocide not the answer just add more problems that weaken a sundered veil and will eventually backfired
Not rly i explained why many times especially veil part (that is destroyed much more in mages caused disasters than by non-mages).But it is your call to discuss that.
it would veer off topic even more, but i do enjoy a discussion. But for nowclets bring it, back OTYep but important part was confirmed and to be honest whether city was gold , black or pink hardly matters. Not rly i explained why many times especially veil part (that is destroyed much more in mages caused disasters than by non-mages).But it is your call to discuss that.
Well possession was consequence of connor weakness another example can be quentin that went mad because of love.
They can't do much as i said even this circle existed to appease chantry so they rather don't want mess with them.
What happened to Conner was more his mother's fault then Connor's since he had no knowledge of demons and such he was a kid after all and couldn't even do the most simplest of spells so it wasn't a weakness of Connor. Quentin didn't do much harm other then killing some people that a simple commoner could do the only difference he could summon Demons and bring back the dead, but other then that he didn't do anything a commoner could do.
Without the Templars the chantry are pretty much powerless in many ways even Orlais have trouble of their own to be helping them.
Its circular logic my friend. We fear dangerous people human nature accept and understand this i do, but if we constantly blame x group and subjugate said group they rebel against group y it starts over, doesnt this tire you instead of blame lets try problem solving... amically
His solution is kill all mages.
Yep but important part was confirmed and to be honest whether city was gold , black or pink hardly matters.
Amongst other things, it confirms that mages weren't responsible for the Blight, the Old Gods were.
*sigh* I've given up trying to keep up on this thread. But now that we've devolved into genocide and sundering the veil through non-magical means is better for the world, we're back to the old "kill all the mages, weaken the veil and sunder it through nonmagical meas is better for the world and will save us from destruction," and "Umm, no it won't," back to "yes it will because mages cause all the problems in the world."
I've seen this dance with TKS too many times to know he'll ignore all evidence that says otherwise, and then pretend infantcide and genocide are morally acceptable when it comes to the mages and maybe elves, but not anyone else and make that point repeatedly.
As such, I consider this thread driven off the rails and I most likely will not post in this particular thread again unless it gets back on track.
I bid this thread, at least for now or until it's locked, adieu.
well jowan also contributed greatly. And im aware of his solutions im a lurker, just hard to tell if its rping or real veiwsWhat happened to Conner was more his mother's fault then Connor's since he had no knowledge of demons and such he was a kid after all and couldn't even do the most simplest of spells so it wasn't a weakness of Connor. Quentin didn't do much harm other then killing some people that a simple commoner could do the only difference he could summon Demons and bring back the dead, but other then that he didn't do anything a commoner could do. Without the Templars the chantry are pretty much powerless in many ways even Orlais have trouble of their own to be helping them. His solution is kill all mages.
Yep but important part was confirmed and to be honest whether city was gold , black or pink hardly matters.
Not to the Chantry it's part of the big deal on how the blight starts after.
They go to the Golden city and turns it black with dark personalities and for that the maker threw them out and does the first Darkspawn was made.
It was the Maker's city according to the Chantry.
well jowan also contributed greatly. And im aware of his solutions im a lurker, just hard to tell if its rping or real veiws
Jowan is a bigger Failure Knight than Hawke.
Poor guy.
I let him go.
Amongst other things, it confirms that mages weren't responsible for the Blight, the Old Gods were.
or someone who pretended to be Dumath.
well jowan also contributed greatly. And im aware of his solutions im a lurker, just hard to tell if its rping or real veiws
true, but Jowan wouldn't have been there if Connors mother had sent her child to the Circle.
*sigh* I've given up trying to keep up on this thread. But now that we've devolved into genocide and sundering the veil through non-magical means is better for the world, we're back to the old "kill all the mages, weaken the veil and sunder it through nonmagical meas is better for the world and will save us from destruction," and "Umm, no it won't," back to "yes it will because mages cause all the problems in the world."
I've seen this dance with TKS too many times to know he'll ignore all evidence that says otherwise, and then pretend infantcide and genocide are morally acceptable when it comes to the mages and maybe elves, but not anyone else and make that point repeatedly.
As such, I consider this thread driven off the rails and I most likely will not post in this particular thread again unless it gets back on track.
I bid this thread, at least for now or until it's locked, adieu.
Bye.
true.or someone who pretended to be Dumath. true, but Jowan wouldn't have been there if Connors mother had sent her child to the Circle. Bye.
The Chantry does do good work.
So Justina I have heard we aren't going to interact with her much in DA:I since she was at summit that blew up.
So Justina I have heard we aren't going to interact with her much in DA:I since she was at summit that blew up.
No biggie.
She was probably the worst Divine in the entire history of the Chantry.
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