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Romances in the next DA game.


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Ravensword

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I'm pretty content w/ the romance options for DA:I. It's all good in the hood. However, I've noticed that there are some people who wish they can romance a certain character w/ one of their Inquisitor's but can't due to the fact that a particular LI isn't available to, say, a male Inquisitor b/c of the PCs race or gender.

 

Now, I'd like to preface my proposal, by saying that since everything is pretty much all set for DA:I, which is set to be released in a few months, I'm not suggesting that BW should try to implement my suggestions for DA:I. That would be blatantly unreasonable. I am suggesting that should a dev happen to see this thread, it would be nice if they at least thought about it, even if just for a second, regardless of whatever s/he thinks about the idea, it would be fantastic. I think that's pretty reasonable expectation.

 

Some of you might be wondering why a character that is not predisposed towards being romanced by the PC, yet will willingly become a concubine of the PC. The reason for that is based prestige and how well a character likes the PC. BW PCs seem to have character swooning left and right over them, therefore it would seem that concubinage is simply the next logical step in how interpersonal relationships between and the PC and NPC work.

 

W/ concubinage, it wouldn't seem too illogical for an LI to accept a request to become the PCs concubine due to the fact that the PC is the wrong race or gender. However, the NPC has to like the PC first. I can't imagine why anyone who disapproves of the PCs actions or character would want to enter into such a relationship w/ the PC. In fact, I could imagine the PC taking a knife in the gut or an arrow to the knee for having the unmitigated temerity of requesting concubinage to someone that despises the him/her.

 

What are the advantages of concubinage in the DA world, or why would someone want to enter into such a relationship in DA? Well, let's say the PC is a noble, and it would be expected that the PC would marry another noble. It allows the PC to be able to keep up appearances by marrying another noble, but still be allowed to keep their lover within their court. Another reason for a noble to take a concubine would be to be w/ the person s/he loves, but keep the possibility of a political marriage open due to obligation. Also, concubinage is practiced in parts Thedas, so it's not something that is completely out of the blue.

 

It goes w/o saying that this should be available to a PC of all genders, and can make any LI, as long as they have a high approval rating of the PC (gender or sexuality notwithstanding), is available to enter into such a relationship. So, for example, a female PC can take on male NPCs as concubines. She can take on female concubines if she so chooses to, as well.

 

This would undoubtedly make the people who want to romance everyone in a single playthrough extremely happy. And at the end of the day, that's pretty much what it's all about, is it not? :)



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People shouldn't feel worried/diappointed if they are going to buy the game on PC because I am sure there will be mods showing up on Nexus to rectify whatever that is lacking in the vanilla DA:I romance.



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You can't hit next without bumping into 5 romance threads per page.


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What is the base premise of the OP?  Honestly, I can't follow it.  Yeah, I know I'm pretty thick, and the OP is trying not to offend anyone, but for crying out loud, by the time I got to the 3rd "certain someone" I was done trying to figure it out.  Add lazy to my character defects if you like, but say what you mean.


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Odds are, he's talking about Sera.

 

Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether you call it concubinage or romance, you're never going to be able to have everyone you might possibly want, It isn't that the devs don't want to make players happy. For one thing, that's impossible. For another, there's no way they're going to do cinematics and cutscenes for every character in the game for every race/gender combination in the game. Not going to happen. Either you have less romances (by any name) or you have more, but they're race/gender gated. The end.


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People shouldn't feel worried/diappointed if they are going to buy the game on PC because I am sure there will be mods showing up on Nexus to rectify whatever that is lacking in the vanilla DA:I romance.

For DA:I, it really doesn't matter since the Frostbite 3 engine isn't very mod-friendly, to say the least.

 

You can't hit next without bumping into 5 romance threads per page.

At least until you actually reply to one. :devil:

 

What is the base premise of the OP?  Honestly, I can't follow it.  Yeah, I know I'm pretty thick, and the OP is trying not to offend anyone, but for crying out loud, by the time I got to the 3rd "certain someone" I was done trying to figure it out.  Add lazy to my character defects if you like, but say what you mean.

Concubines. Problem?  ;)

 

Odds are, he's talking about Sera.

 

Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether you call it concubinage or romance, you're never going to be able to have everyone you might possibly want, It isn't that the devs don't want to make players happy. For one thing, that's impossible. For another, there's no way they're going to do cinematics and cutscenes for every character in the game for every race/gender combination in the game. Not going to happen. Either you have less romances (by any name) or you have more, but they're race/gender gated. The end.

Oh, gosh darn it! I thought it was gonna be like this.



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Oh, got it, finally.  Bye.



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I don't really understand this suggestion. If someone isn't into your PC's gender, they aren't going to want to be your concubine/lover.



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It goes w/o saying that this should be available to a PC of all genders, and can make any LI, as long as they have a high approval rating of the PC (gender or sexuality notwithstanding), is available to enter into such a relationship. So, for example, a female PC can take on male NPCs as concubines. She can take on female concubines if she so chooses to, as well.

 

This would undoubtedly make the people who want to romance everyone in a single playthrough extremely happy. And at the end of the day, that's pretty much what it's all about, is it not? :)

 

I can see a number of problems with this, but the largest is the very definition of a concubine. Concubines are a practice to increase the number of offspring/heirs for a noble or wealthy family that is considered 'legal' and for this to work the main character would have to be some kind of noble or someone of high power that would benefit having children in some way. Being a concubine isn't romantic and shouldn't be treated as such. Let's say all PC's could be a concubine for any main character, this would require altering all their personalities/goals/sexual preferences to the point where they are willing to do such a thing for any reason, and limiting the possibilities for any other characters. Would a character like Wynne really think "Yea...I'll be a concubine cause...profit?"


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For DA:I, it really doesn't matter since the Frostbite 3 engine isn't very mod-friendly, to say the least.

 

 

Modders are actually quite resourceful in that regard. So it should not be a problem. What might be a potential problem would be Bioware's stance on modding after the game's release. Like for ME3 at the initial stage. At a time modding even for SP is bannable offence.



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Please. Sleeping with me should be a requirement to join the party anyway. This isn't a charity event. 



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Please. Sleeping with me should be a requirement to join the party anyway. This isn't a charity event. 

So you'll be soloing a lot of dungeons then?


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thanks OP I've now reached my daily quota of squick
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So you'll be soloing a lot of dungeons then?

No, you misunderstand. This is for DA4. 

 

I mean I'll have my party, and you can have your horses. Everybody wins. 



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My advice for anyone worried about romances et cetera is to buy DA:I for PC. With mods (just goggle Nexus) you'll find perfect solutions (as you can today for Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age 2) that totally bypasses the developers forced racial and sex restrictions (just give it some time).



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My advice for anyone worried about romances et cetera is to buy DA:I for PC. With mods (just goggle Nexus) you'll find perfect solutions (as you can today for Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age 2) that totally bypasses the developers forced racial and sex restrictions (just give it some time).

Fingers crossed



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I mean the concubine thing is just wrong, but why would someone, like Sera, who doesnt like men ever want to be a concubine to a man? Why would any character Ever say yes to that? I mean a romance is accepting someone as a partner in your life, accepting being a concubine is giving up your freedom. No companion ever would do that regardless of race or sexuality.
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So all Hero's should get there own personal Ho? lol ok well um yeah that happen