Or it could be a mix: one the unanounced LIs and one of the known ones are race gated.
Sorry, maybe my point wasn't clear but that was what I meant. I totally agree. It's either that two of the ones that we already know (seems less likely) or a combination of one of the remaining ones and one of the ones we already know (I think this is more likely based on the tweets, but that's just my opinion).
I'm not sure if only bi characters will be race-gated.
I think they focused on which characters could have an interesting story that comes along with the race-gating.
I think it's pretty much a given that it won't be only bi characters who are race-gated. It's been pretty much confirmed that the last two LI's are not both race-gated and it's been completely confirmed that Josephine and Iron Bull aren't race-gated. So, if the last two are both bisexual, that would mean that at least three out of the four bisexuals are not race-gated. So that also means that at least one out of Cullen, Cass, Sera, and Dorian will be race-gated.
Symmetry, symmetry everywhere
I think that would be more... balancing. Just as I expect the last two LIs to be bisexual
That's the same argument people said back when they argued that there's no way that both Dorian and Cole could be companions because that would make the gender balance really off. And that turned out to be fairly flawed logic.
I guess that these could be up for interpretation, but to me, it's pretty clear what these tweets mean:
Look at the way the second sentence is worded. It's pretty clear that the "it" refers to "the two remaining LI's are the race-gated ones" and not "my saying it". Substitute either of those phrases for the "it" and see what I mean.
"An odd thing for me to say seeing as the two remaining LI's are the race gated ones is untrue". (Makes sense)
"An odd thing for me to say seeing as my saying it is untrue" (Doesn't make sense)
The continuation of the tweet then addresses the other side of the pendulum swing. When people thought that his first tweet said that neither of the two unannounced LI's were race-gated, he corrected them by saying that it doesn't mean that either. This one doesn't confirm anything really.
What it leaves us with is the fact that both of the remaining unannounced LI's are not race-gated. And we know that IB and Josephine are not race gated. So the two race-gated ones are either Cullen, Cassandra, Dorian, Sera, and no more than one of the two unannounced LI's.
Based upon all this plus the twitter comment about wanting to romance Sera with a dwarf, my guess is that Cassandra and Cullen are racegated against dwarves and/or qunari.
Based upon all this plus the twitter comment about wanting to romance Sera with a dwarf, my guess is that Cassandra and Cullen are racegated against dwarves and/or qunari.
NO. You take that back!
The "Solas gated against Dwarves because fade" theory is as much retarded as the "Sera gated against Humans because nobility" theory.
There is nothing to talk about. They have not announced anything so it is probably best to not worry. I plan to romance either Josephine or Sera on my Female Qunari champion depending on whether or not Sera is race-gated or not.
I am really hoping the diplomatic advisor isn't human-only. I mean, it would make sense for her to be, since she's a noblewoman and noblewomen in this setting seem to be expected to be interested in humans, but I hope that Bioware doesn't decide to have that make sense. (Given that she's bi, and that she's in my opinion the most attractive LI yet announced, I was planning to make her pretty much my default romance no matter what gender the character is, and I tend to play every race available in Origins about evenly.)
I am really hoping the diplomatic advisor isn't human-only. I mean, it would make sense for her to be, since she's a noblewoman and noblewomen in this setting seem to be expected to be interested in humans, but I hope that Bioware doesn't decide to have that make sense. (Given that she's bi, and that she's in my opinion the most attractive LI yet announced, I was planning to make her pretty much my default romance no matter what gender the character is, and I tend to play every race available in Origins about evenly.)
She's not race-gated. She is one of only two characters who have been revealed to be not-gated. The other is Bull.
She's not race-gated. She is one of only two characters who have been revealed to be not-gated. The other is Bull.
No, the race gate is bull. Easy mistake to make.
Edit: Jokes aside, thank you for the reassurance. Plan is back on track.
Edit 2: Considering Vivienne's status, and the similar expectations placed on her, maybe she's one of the race-gated LIs? Or is she confirmed not an LI?
It seems to be a full on confirmation I saw the tweet and I don't see how it could mean anything else, heck someone has already updated the romance section on the DA wiki. If Solas is race gated to just elves then I think Sera is safe, wouldn't make sense to race gate both elves.
I also think that it means that either Vivienne or Blackwall (whoever is the last LI) is going to be ungated.
It seems to be a full on confirmation I saw the tweet and I don't see how it could mean anything else, heck someone has already updated the romance section on the DA wiki. If Solas is race gated to just elves then I think Sera is safe, wouldn't make sense to race gate both elves.
Now I want a scene where Solas tries to hit on Sera...
Would be shocked if Solas is gated but not Viv.
Maybe that means Blackwall?
Would be shocked if Solas is gated but not Viv.
Maybe that means Blackwall?
I'm no so convinced that Vivienne would have to be race-gated. She's a determined woman in a position of power. She strikes me more of the type who would flaunt an nontraditional relationship in an ostentatious way, almost daring someone to challenge her so that she can cut them down. Plus, the Orlesian court clearly is not unfamiliar with interracial relationships, so I don't know if it would really be as detrimental to her image as people are making it out to be. People might gossip about it behind her back, but I think she would actually relish that attention.
I could also see the argument that for Blackwall being an ungated romance. Perhaps he views his relationship with the Inquisitor as his last chance at romantic love as he senses his Calling approaching.
I'm no so convinced that Vivienne would have to be race-gated. She's a determined woman in a position of power. She strikes me more of the type who would flaunt an nontraditional relationship in an ostentatious way, almost daring someone to challenge her so that she can cut them down. Plus, the Orlesian court clearly is not unfamiliar with interracial relationships, so I don't know if it would really be as detrimental to her image as people are making it out to be. People might gossip about it behind her back, but I think she would actually relish that attention.
I could also see the argument that for Blackwall being an ungated romance. Perhaps he views his relationship with the Inquisitor as his last chance at romantic love as he senses his Calling approaching.
Um, Celene being with Briala was very detrimental to her image though. That's why it was kept secret, and then there's the whole play at the theater scene..
being with an elf in Orlais is seen as a taboo, thats been established heck even in Ferelden and the Free Marches being in a relationship with an elf is seen as sort of a no no
being with an elf in Orlais is seen as a taboo, thats been established heck even in Ferelden and the Free Marches being in a relationship with an elf is seen as sort of a no no
Well, being involved with the inquisitor could bring her more power in the organization, so she might be more open to non-human relationships.
Yes, I know that it's taboo. What I'm saying is that I don't think that it's such a taboo that a woman like Vivienne would restrict herself. She and Celene are very different types of women. I'm just saying that I don't think it's a given that she would be race-gated and I could very easily imagine a situation in which she wouldn't choose to restrict herself.
Yes, I know that it's taboo. What I'm saying is that I don't think that it's such a taboo that a woman like Vivienne would restrict herself. She and Celene are very different types of women. I'm just saying that I don't think it's a given that she would be race-gated and I could very easily imagine a situation in which she wouldn't choose to restrict herself.
Havin them as a piece on the side or a pet booty call wouldn't be as taboo but what if Viv has no interest in that kind if romance ad would rather marry or have kids at least have a public relationship with her lover? Those would be unacceptable with an elf.
She seems like the kind to value power over race. She might get with any inquisitor for just that reason.
She seems like the kind to value power over race. She might get with any inquisitor for just that reason.
Im sticking with Cassandra and Cullen as being race gated as their are more than enough humans to romance within this group.To those who claim we know Cassandra's character, we know nothing about what she finds attractive or not, most are just speculating because of what they want to do, but it's not about what we want, it's about how the writers envision these characters, what stories this characters hold to, this is what makes them (all companions) dynamic, if you want romances that just go whatever way you want look to skyrim.. Where any race combination or sex can marry any pre-determined marriage available npc.. yes, despite actual known racism, and political/cultural taboos being present in the game. Don't you guys want these characters to be more than yes and no pillow warmers? A Heterosexual race gated LI is not a deal breaker to me, i think most people are more into the legacy character idea and want it to fit the most bizarre combinations they can dream up.. truthfully, i think BioWare should have went the extra mile and made inter-companion romances, ie companions that romance other companions based on their own interest, assuming you don't fit what they are looking for by the time they find someone else more suitable. !.) It' would reveal what that person is into for future playthroughs, 2.) it's more realistic, that other people would be hooking up to.
Also why is a heterosexual race gated option so strange or unbelievable to people? Truth be told that is very much how i would imagine most of thedas to be, if at all it mimics the real world. You can't honestly believe that every game, the PC just happens to have the largest selection of its LI's be bisexual, or whatever term describes someone who is completely open minded to interracial relationships. If that were the case I would think that there would be no problems between races in thedas at all, but thats obviously not the case, and while im not promoting that companions have some kind of inability to work with other companions, they doesn't mean they should ignore such things when it comes to whom they find attractive. Notice i said find attractive and not love, as to me the later is more of a familiarity with a person you have come to accept or understand.
Also with 4 potential races to play it's not like if one of both Cullen and Cassandra both played the Hetero-Race Gated card, that it would be the same exact combination. Cullen likes Elves and Humans, so lets pretend he excludes Qunari and Dwarves (When did he ever say he didn't like Dwarven Women?) Cassandra might be into Humans and Dwarves. (That really only leaves out Qunari for the both of them and thats hardly a huge slice of the potential inquisitor race/gender combination)
money is on Cass or the unknown, now that Solas is straight and race gated to just elves I don't see either Cullen or Sera being race gated as I don't see them race gating both elves and two female options
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